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Old 06-10-2016, 09:59 PM
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Old 06-10-2016, 10:21 PM
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Good yes on a number of fronts , but lets hope they follow thru .
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Old 06-11-2016, 07:13 PM
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so what are they proposing to do on cutlines that will help the caribou?
Believe it or not I have seen in the little smoky and south where they have built slab board fences to veer the caribou off or the wolves Not sure which !
This will likely last only as long as when the oil starts going up again and then same old same old .
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Old 06-12-2016, 11:01 AM
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Parfleche, I agree those board fences on cutlines in Little Smokey are a joke. The whole cutline issue is a red herring. If you have seen wolves running through the bush with front and back legs strectched out straight going 40 miles per hour they do not need cutlines. They just use them when snowmobile packs line as easy walking but they will find caribou with or without cutlines.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:45 PM
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so what are they proposing to do on cutlines that will help the caribou?
Believe it or not I have seen in the little smoky and south where they have built slab board fences to veer the caribou off or the wolves Not sure which !
This will likely last only as long as when the oil starts going up again and then same old same old .
This may help answer some of your questions.

Nube's linked article is about this paper recently released by AEP.

A must read to get a basic understanding of the proposed changes to industry and public land use in an effort to save Caribou.



SETTING ALBERTA ON THE PATH TO CARIBOU RECOVERY

http://aep.alberta.ca/fish-wildlife/...y-May-2016.pdf
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:03 PM
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It's a good day, but the Redrock herd is still left out of any protective measures because they are classed as Mountain caribou and fell outside of the Federal order. Too bad because they're the easiest herd to keep intact. maybe they'll be next.
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:21 AM
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So how are they going to reclaim the cutlines? Will they plant trees and if they do plant trees and restrict the usage of the cutlines to allow regrowth to occur, will this mean driving on these cutlines will be banned? How is that going to impact the traplines and hunting access?
It is stated in the paper "Caribou come first".

Just food for thought.

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Old 06-14-2016, 08:58 AM
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RJ you are right. We trappers use cutlines for major access on our lines. Forestry is being told to destroy cutlines when they log. If they restrict our use of them in future will not be good trapping for us old farts. We have enough work just keeping cutlines open from windfall now.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:49 AM
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I read in the report they would take have to allow acces to trappers so they can continue to harvest wolves, as taking the wolves seems to be a very inportant part of this whole idea. I'm thinking our main trails is not a problem just will not be allowed to open up old cutlines.
But up here they grow back so quick it would make no difference to replant them. 5 years and the brush is 6' tall.
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:27 PM
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We will see in ten years where all this stuff leads to.That is a long winded theory on what needs to be done.The proof will be in the pudding ! Caribou will be what they are and wolves will do what they are programed to do .Those two wont change. The problem is humans are governed by money and will they have the willpower to see this through , providing it even proves to be a recipe to caribou survival!
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