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Old 10-13-2011, 08:38 PM
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Hypothetically:

Two guys hunting mule deer, one under a special license/draw with a shotgun and another under a general tag/archery permit with a bow.

A deer is wounded by the shotgun guy and then caught up to and killed by the guy with a bow, the bow guy tags it cause he killed it. Right? or...

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Old 10-13-2011, 08:53 PM
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:05 PM
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IMHO, and again its just that...

Whenever I hunt with friends and/or family we go the "first blood" rule. Meaning whoever hits it first....once the dust settles and its down it is that person's animal.

So in this scenario if 2 guys were hunting together and the shottie guy hit it first but the archery guy finished it....it goes to the shottie guy....not saying its right its just how I was taught and how we do it in our family/circle of friends.

If it was a third party (unknown guy) then its open for discussion.

Years ago I actually finished off a deer for a guy who wounded one and it ran onto the peice I had permission and he didn't.

I saw the wounded deer run and jump the fence into the property I was on....long story short I caught up with him and grabbed his name and number and told him if I ran into the animal I would put it down for him and give him a call.

Before the conspiracy wheels start turning let me state this was a mule buck in a draw zone, I had a tag and so did the other guy, this was a buck I would proudly put my tag on....so the deal was if I saw it and got it, I would call him with right of first refusal..meaning, if he had filled his tag in the mean-time then I would tag it....or if he could not be reached immediately I would tag it.

Back to the story...I shot the deer. Called him immediately My Dad and I gutted it and we met him at the common fence (one it jumped in the first place) 300yards from where I shot it to pass it over to him....he was grateful to say the least. Took our names and numbers and invited us over to his house for a X-Mas drink and dinner for thanks.

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Old 10-13-2011, 11:31 PM
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I think the SRD answer is...he who kills it tags it but I've always followed the first blood rule...I think most guys do.
Why not if it is simply a mercy..it's not like once the guy clips it...we all open up like it's a free for all?
Just seems like the right thing to do by the animal sometimes and the best way to avoid confrontation with the original shooter over whose deer or whatever it is....
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Wouldn't SRD have an issue if they happened upon some hunters gutting a deer with no tag on it?
Next , and this is probably along the salt lick slipery ethics issue, but using the " first blood rule, you could shoot an elk (twice) and call your buddy at work tell him to bring his tag, meet at fence, then tag as his?
Not looking to pick a fight, but as with the baiting issue, where does the " that's what we do" end, and the rules start?
Not quoteing the regs but I always read that immediatly and at the kill site the animal needs to be tagged.

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Old 10-14-2011, 08:45 AM
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Wouldn't SRD have an issue if they happened upon some hunters gutting a deer with no tag on it?
Next , and this is probably along the salt lick slipery ethics issue, but using the " first blood rule, you could shoot an elk (twice) and call your buddy at work tell him to bring his tag, meet at fence, then tag as his?
Not looking to pick a fight, but as with the baiting issue, where does the " that's what we do" end, and the rules start?
Not quoteing the regs but I always read that immediatly and at the kill site the animal needs to be tagged.

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Yes it could happen this way, and I am sure it does, but that is not what guys are talking about.

Point is, some people take the risk of breaking the rules to follow their own ethics; for some their ethics say that if someone else shot an animal first, then it is that person's animal, no matter how many more times it gets shot or by who.

For others, it belongs to whomever kills it. Had this situation last year with an elk. It came to my calling and I knocked it down with a neck shot (don't start...) and my gun jammed. My buddy who was with me slapped me on the back and said "good job!" I said "BS! Watch him, he's gonna get up."

Sure as s**t that is exactly what happened. If he had not shot it again (through both shoulders with a .338 250gr TSX no less ) I would have lost it. Ergo, his elk.

Another time, different buddy double lungs a big blacktail buck at 300 yards. Deer stands a touch too long so I hit him again. Deer goes down. Not my deer! I was just insurance.

We can postulate the what-if's all we want, but the rules are there, and there are consequences for bending and breaking them. In the end you have to be okay with you choices and willing to accept the consequences of making them.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:03 AM
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Hypothetically:

Two guys hunting mule deer, one under a special license/draw with a shotgun and another under a general tag/archery permit with a bow.
Since I first read this, Ive been racking my brain trying to think of a place/wmu where this is even possible. Dont have my regs handy as Im in a treestand but it seems to me that archery season and special license seasons dont overlap anywhere......am I missing something?
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:00 PM
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Since I first read this, Ive been racking my brain trying to think of a place/wmu where this is even possible. Dont have my regs handy as Im in a treestand but it seems to me that archery season and special license seasons dont overlap anywhere......am I missing something?
236 for mule buck Oct 15-31, overlap is possible.
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