importing bullets from US?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by spurly

These people clearly don’t get it. Or don’t want to get it.

But they have been doing it for years, so it can't be illegal.

[spurly]

Originally Posted by NicoyaHunt

Is lot of difference to carry across the border 1000 bullet to send it by mail, one is smuggling and other is legal

It is not legal for a non resident alien, to be in possession of any items on the ITAR list while abroad.If it were legal why would the retailers not be shipping bullets to Canada. You are giving very poor advice here

[Rackmastr]

Originally Posted by yukon254

I've never even seen a US customs officer on my return trip to Canada and I go south at least twice a year. Its never been a problem for me. I have also mailed boxes of bullets home because I didnt want the weight in my luggage and never had a problem and the packages had declaration tags right on the outside of the box.

I have crossed the border exponentially more than most here and can attest to how often USCBP does export checks. I guess thats good that 2 times a year you dont see anything lol. Mailing stuff home is no different, but take the risks that you want. Ignorance of the law happens every day, and some seem to think its a great excuse.....

[Rackmastr]

Originally Posted by NicoyaHunt

Is lot of difference to carry across the border 1000 bullet to send it by mail, one is smuggling and other is legal

Neither is smuggling actually. Both are the same violations of US exporting laws, but so long as the goods are declared to CBSA neither is "Smuggling".

[NicoyaHunt]

US customs officer they know the people are crossing the border, Last year I was in Oregon my brother live there and me and my brother went to Bass Pro He want a to buy a rifle but he have no money, I was a nice guy and I paid for him with my Visa Card and the rifle was hold for 5 to 7 days to do paper work, 2 days later after the purchasing I drove to Canada and when I was back to home I have stop by the US custom around 1km before the border and they was asking me about the rifle, my answer was yes I just paid for that rifle and is not my and the rifle is in hold, they may some phone call and said sorry and let me go

[marky_mark]

I ordered the new berger 6.5 bullets when they came out from the us
They were help up in customs for a week or 2
But I still got them 👍

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by NicoyaHunt

US customs officer they know the people are crossing the border, Last year I was in Oregon my brother live there and me and my brother went to Bass Pro He want a to buy a rifle but he have no money, I was a nice guy and I paid for him with my Visa Card and the rifle was hold for 5 to 7 days to do paper work, 2 days later after the purchasing I drove to Canada and when I was back to home I have stop by the US custom around 1km before the border and they was asking me about the rifle, my answer was yes I just paid for that rifle and is not my and the rifle is in hold, they may some phone call and said sorry and let me go

The USCBP has real-time access to everybody's credit card transactions within the US, probably within North America. They already knew you had purchased an ITAR controlled item and were waiting for you to show up at a checkpoint.
Since you did not have the firearm in your possession, they had no reason to hold you or press charges.

[brass410]

web site "Natural Resources Canada" go to propellant and ammunition, gives all the guidelines. I've inquired into this extensively both in Canada and the US and frequently bring what the guidelines allow, Its up to you to do your own homework. Remember if you ask the horse your answer will come from its mouth if ask otherwise well its gonna come from the other end!

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by brass410

web site "Natural Resources Canada" go to propellant and ammunition, gives all the guidelines. I've inquired into this extensively both in Canada and the US and frequently bring what the guidelines allow, Its up to you to do your own homework. Remember if you ask the horse your answer will come from its mouth if ask otherwise well its gonna come from the other end!

You refer to the Canadian regulations, but I see no reference to the US regulations. When two countries are involved, there are two sets of regulations to obey.

[DLab]

Originally Posted by brass410

web site "Natural Resources Canada" go to propellant and ammunition, gives all the guidelines. I've inquired into this extensively both in Canada and the US and frequently bring what the guidelines allow, Its up to you to do your own homework. Remember if you ask the horse your answer will come from its mouth if ask otherwise well its gonna come from the other end!

I"m curious,of these frequent trips bringing back what the guidelines allow,have you ever been checked at a pre border road side check stop on the US side before entering back into Canada?

[Rackmastr]

Originally Posted by DLab

I"m curious,of these frequent trips bringing back what the guidelines allow,have you ever been checked at a pre border road side check stop on the US side before entering back into Canada?

I've seen export checks done 3-4 times in the past 3 weeks.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by yukon254

The short answer to your question is, yes you can bring bullets back from the USA. There is no Canadian law preventing it. I do it once or twice a year when we fly down to visit family.

Sometimes I even drive to Skagway AK since its only 120KM from my house. I often buy loaded ammunition and bullets for reloading. I asked Canada Customs if I needed to bring my FAC to show them when I returned to Canada. They said no. When I asked them why I need an FAC to buy ammo in Canada, but dont need it to bring ammo into Canada they didnt have an answer other than it was a loophole no one thought about when they made the law.

I know lots of outfitters who bring back all sorts of reloading supplies from the US when they are down doing shows.

Originally Posted by yukon254

I've never even seen a US customs officer on my return trip to Canada and I go south at least twice a year. Its never been a problem for me. I have also mailed boxes of bullets home because I didnt want the weight in my luggage and never had a problem and the packages had declaration tags right on the outside of the box.

Get caught once and the best that will happen is a travel ban to US soil. I have an acquaintance that sounds a lot like you that spent 20k USD to get out of hot water and released and he has the travel ban.

Canada doesn't care about a little powder, ammo or bullets. The US really, really does.

[32-40win]

Sure, you can go down there and buy a gun, or reloading components, they'll sell it to you, but, the act of bringing it to the border yourself, as you are an alien, to bring it home to Canada is illegal, and on guns, was long before ITAR was invented. An alien is not entitled to acquire a US export licence under ITAR. I inquired about that in about 1989 when I went down to a Coors shoot in Montana, before ITAR, it was till a no go, US citizen had to transport to the border. Couple of private gun dealers from Montana or Idaho used to come to Leth and Calgary gun shows. It was a combination of US and Cdn laws that stopped that though. There was a gun shop in Washington, Kesselring's, that got nailed for selling to Canadians under ITAR, they don't exist anymore. Bought a lot of reloading stuff there in the 80's. They even honored the sales tax agreement, AB licence was all you needed to show them, no state taxes to pay. Google ITAR conviction in the US, lots of them, firearms, scopes mostly, private citizens and stores. However, when they created ITAR, they added reloading components. US citizen can no longer transport or mail ITAR controlled goods to the border for export without an export licence from State, or, perhaps now Commerce/BIS/ATF.
Up to the officer's discretion, up to a point, on some small qty's, but, they technically are required to seize the goods at a minimum. They can also nail you to the wall if they are so inclined.
Just be thankful that CBSA isn't required to call them when you declare at the Cdn border.

[ATF]

Originally Posted by urban rednek

The USCBP has real-time access to everybody's credit card transactions within the US, probably within North America. They already knew you had purchased an ITAR controlled item and were waiting for you to show up at a checkpoint.
Since you did not have the firearm in your possession, they had no reason to hold you or press charges.

Wow I wish my credit card statements would give me an itemized list of what I bought with my card.
They always just show a total from the retailer.