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Old 04-07-2018, 05:36 AM
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At what point do you say, what my forefathers did has nothing to do with me or who I am. Why can we not just move on with our lives. Sickening.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/long...own-university
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:25 AM
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Special interest groups are slowly destroying what our forefathers built into this country.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:32 AM
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For some, perpetual guilt is a way of life....my great-grandparents came to Canada in the 1880’s to avoid persecution and likely death. They braved attacks from tartars, starvation and a dangerous crossing of the Atlantic to get here, then more struggles moving west.

No shame or guilt here. Just pride.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:42 AM
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At what point do you say, what my forefathers did has nothing to do with me or who I am. Why can we not just move on with our lives. Sickening.
X100- This has to be said for many situations these days.

I think we all have a responsibility to remember history.

I am sick of paying retributions for something I had no part of an neither did the three generations before me.

I hate that the only time people want to talk about history and wrong doings is when they are looking for financial gain.

I think there should be a statute of limitations on how many generations can attempt to ride on the coattails of their forefathers.

My only gain or benefit has been the ones I earned myself. I am only liable for my own actions. Why should I be paying for the actions of others for the rest of my life?
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:02 AM
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We should always strive to learn from history, but dwelling on it is another thing entirely. People dwelling on the past is the reason behind almost all global conflict, it works the same regionally. When people go overboard with things such as restitution, reparations, tilted hiring policies, favouritism in educational pursuits, etc the result is that another group becomes disenfranchised. Why is it that so many people campaign for inequality as way to try to atone for previous inequality? Two wrongs never make a right, they simply serve to perpetuate the cycle of inequality.

I’m sure there were points in all of our family histories where an ancestor was wronged, if I were to discover that someone took advantage of any of my great great great great grandfathers I wouldn’t be pursuing the descendants of those people for ‘reparations’ (aka: political theft, the sole intent of which is to buy votes)


Maybe I’m entitled to a lordship somewhere in Scotland or Prussia ? I should be entitled to my entitlements!
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:09 AM
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The psychology of envy and social justice.

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Old 04-07-2018, 09:11 AM
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X100- This has to be said for many situations these days.

I think we all have a responsibility to remember history.

I am sick of paying retributions for something I had no part of an neither did the three generations before me.

I hate that the only time people want to talk about history and wrong doings is when they are looking for financial gain.

I think there should be a statute of limitations on how many generations can attempt to ride on the coattails of their forefathers.

My only gain or benefit has been the ones I earned myself. I am only liable for my own actions. Why should I be paying for the actions of others for the rest of my life?
It's really sad isn't it!! What our fathers and grandfathers worked for is now being brushed under the carpet by the halfwit run government!! You don't hear me squealing I'm entitled to the moon and yet now I feel like a minority in my country!! If you can tell, I blame this totally on the government!! Stop the bloody handouts all ready and who knows, it just might help balancethe budget
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:17 PM
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At what point do you say, what my forefathers did has nothing to do with me or who I am. Why can we not just move on with our lives. Sickening.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/long...own-university
As a sideline, I found these words in the article to be a bit of a shock -
"In 1838, in a bid to avoid bankruptcy, Jesuit Priests who ran the university sold 272 slaves to plantation owners in Louisiana. The proceeds of the sale — the equivalent of $3.3 million US today — ended up saving what is now one of the country's most illustrious universities. But it also implicated it in one of the darkest chapters in U.S. history."

I had no idea the Catholic Church was involved in the Slave Trade !


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As a sideline, I found these words in the article to be a bit of a shock -
"In 1838, in a bid to avoid bankruptcy, Jesuit Priests who ran the university sold 272 slaves to plantation owners in Louisiana. The proceeds of the sale — the equivalent of $3.3 million US today — ended up saving what is now one of the country's most illustrious universities. But it also implicated it in one of the darkest chapters in U.S. history."

I had no idea the Catholic Church was involved in the Slave Trade !


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WOW is appropriate! but:

Chances are that not many of those Jesuits were our forefathers
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The psychology of envy and social justice.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bcviUfFTQXk
Very interesting take on envy. I think envy or jealousy could be considered a human instinct. The video takes the viewpoint that those who are envious are the negative in the envied vs. the envious situation and that they are two different types of personality. I think if you switched the situation around and put the envied into the shoes of the envious and vice versa the former envied would in become the envious hence why I think envy is more an instinctual human condition than a consciously developed thought pattern. We see it in animals as much as humans where one animal that is being fed is envious of one who isn't and will challenge and try to take away what the other has..

Envy and jealousy are natural characteristics that are easily manipulated, always have been, everybody has some level of it in their personality whether they admit it or not. |It is just not apparent or admitted to by in those who are envied as they have little to be envious about, reverse their situation and watch what happens.
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WOW is appropriate! but:

Chances are that not many of those Jesuits were our forefathers
Surprised that the Catholic church was involved in nefarious activities?

Ever taken a look at the Popes audience hall?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1s&v=9WC-pVdGgK4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=17s&v=yzurtPFe9jE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EckTUraEw6g
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For some, perpetual guilt is a way of life....my great-grandparents came to Canada in the 1880’s to avoid persecution and likely death. They braved attacks from tartars, starvation and a dangerous crossing of the Atlantic to get here, then more struggles moving west.

No shame or guilt here. Just pride.
If we can find a few more guys we can hit the tartars up for reparations
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Surprised that the Catholic church was involved in nefarious activities?

Ever taken a look at the Popes audience hall?
Not surprised at what they are involved in. Maybe I have not looked close enough but I have seen nothing that resembles the character of the central figure of their faith.
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If we can find a few more guys we can hit the tartars up for reparations
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