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“ they’re seeing that pretty commonly”
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She’s in her 20s, fit ... and facing serious COVID-19 complications months after she got sick - Anchorage Daily News
“ The 27-year-old physical therapy assistant spent a week with what she described as fairly mild symptoms apart from ...
Then the symptoms disappeared. East, an avid hiker and skier, felt “totally fine” and got back to normal life.
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“Two days later, at work, East’s heart started pounding and she felt light-headed. Her heart rate rose to 200 beats a minute. East ended up at the Providence Alaska Medical Center emergency room where a doctor ordered a CT scan.
“That’s where they found I had a bunch of pulmonary emboli in both my lungs,” she said in mid-October. “The doctor said he thought it’s probably because of having COVID, that they’re seeing that pretty commonly.”
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020...-she-got-sick/
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10-19-2020, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/france/
Look at the data for France...Great Britain. Just to get you thinking.
Funny how some refuse to believe data from western countries yet consider data from China to be arguable.
If you assume it is correct...and you like it...then you are in favour similar methods China used to halt the virus?
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I have looked at their data, deaths rates are at the historic average. Cases are up but deaths are right in line with every other year.
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10-19-2020, 11:04 PM
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We have to take into account in these stat numbers the 60% fase psitive results. We don't though so we can keep our people afraid. This strategy is working at about 90% which is pretty good. The pandemic will be over as soon as theWHO says it is and not a second before.
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The first company to create an effective vaccine for this doozy will be the wealthiest company on the planet 🌎
I have hope the normal things I used to take for granted will return. If anything for my child.
This time of year it is tradition for my growing family to go on a train adventure to a pumpkin patch Just outside of Stettler. Then there’s the Polar Express Christmas train adventure in December. I’m having a coffee from a mug from that adventure as I write this.
Ah the good ole days when being crammed in a train full of people was amusing. 
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10-20-2020, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by WildBillG
We have to take into account in these stat numbers the 60% false positive results. We don't though so we can keep our people afraid. This strategy is working at about 90% which is pretty good. The pandemic will be over as soon as theWHO says it is and not a second before.
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Not according to Boris Johnson.. he says 93%..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=683rsICbmtE
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10-20-2020, 10:19 AM
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Why in the world is there such a high percentage of people who believe You Tube crap when there is so much accurate information right at you finger tips ? 60% ? 93% ? Really ????
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...453-7/fulltext
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10-20-2020, 10:35 AM
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You do realize that clip was from March 2020 right ?????
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10-20-2020, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott h
You do realize that clip was from March 2020 right ?????
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Of course!
It shows a most valuable thing:
The 'experts'/CDC are learning about Covid on the fly/in real time,
just like all the rest of us..scamdemic.
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10-20-2020, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tri777
Of course!
It shows a most valuable thing:
The 'experts'/CDC are learning about Covid on the fly/in real time,
just like all the rest of us..scamdemic.
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Are they learning or adjusting results to fit the narrative?
A couple of weeks ago I did some searches on false positives.
At that time I found a piece on the John Hopkins site that said that tests done within the first week after exposure had a 60% false positive rate.
It further stated that the most accurate results were only obtained a week or more after a person experienced symptoms.
A more recent search found none of those statements or anything like them.
All the search results on the more recent search talked only about false negatives. I found no mention whatsoever of false positives in that search.
What happened to the results I found earlier? Did they get lost or were they removed. If removed, why?
Yes I tried searching just John Hopkins site, the results I found earlier are not there now.
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Originally Posted by KegRiver
Are they learning or adjusting results to fit the narrative?
A couple of weeks ago I did some searches on false positives.
At that time I found a piece on the John Hopkins site that said that tests done within the first week after exposure had a 60% false positive rate.
It further stated that the most accurate results were only obtained a week or more after a person experienced symptoms.
A more recent search found none of those statements or anything like them.
All the search results on the more recent search talked only about false negatives. I found no mention whatsoever of false positives in that search.
What happened to the results I found earlier? Did they get lost or were they removed. If removed, why?
Yes I tried searching just John Hopkins site, the results I found earlier are not there now.
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Ditto
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/covid19d...o-early/%3famp
All I find is testing too early leads to false negatives.
So the concern should be...testing right after onset of symptoms may come back negative however you could still have Covid.
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10-20-2020, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tri777
Of course!
It shows a most valuable thing:
The 'experts'/CDC are learning about Covid on the fly/in real time,
just like all the rest of us..scamdemic.
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This is an absurd and frankly childish line of reasoning... What did you expect they would know about a new virus ahead of time? How does this make it a scam? Just what did you think would happen?
If you want to see how direct experience with this thing changes somebody’s point of view check out what Chris Christy or Boris Johnson has to say since they got out of the ICU.
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If you want to see how direct experience with this thing changes somebody’s point of view check out what Chris Christy or Boris Johnson has to say since they got out of the ICU.
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Oh wow. What percentage of infected have been in the ICU? Average age? How many recovered?
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Oh wow. What percentage of infected have been in the ICU? Average age? How many recovered?
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What are you getting at here, I never made an argument on any of those points?
I mean if your point is “I don’t want to wear a mask or whatever so let all the old fatties die” then fine but don’t try and hide behind statistics.
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10-20-2020, 03:03 PM
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If we did not have social media and had not made this into one big political fiasco, everyone could go about their business as usual. Europe is surging and they "followed all the rules". Infectious diseases have and will always be a high burden on the old and immunocompromised. Nature preys on the weak, fact of life.
If masks and social distancing work so well, why is Europe surging and just about everywhere else?
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There’s more and more fentanyl on the street these days.
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10-20-2020, 04:52 PM
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I sure do hope that those in this thread intent on rapidly driving their heads into the sand don't run into a buried boulder.
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10-20-2020, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KegRiver
Are they learning or adjusting results to fit the narrative?
A couple of weeks ago I did some searches on false positives.
At that time I found a piece on the John Hopkins site that said that tests done within the first week after exposure had a 60% false positive rate.
It further stated that the most accurate results were only obtained a week or more after a person experienced symptoms.
A more recent search found none of those statements or anything like them.
All the search results on the more recent search talked only about false negatives. I found no mention whatsoever of false positives in that search.
What happened to the results I found earlier? Did they get lost or were they removed. If removed, why?
Yes I tried searching just John Hopkins site, the results I found earlier are not there now.
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Testing too early before the patient starts shedding virus can lead to false negatives. I've never heard of getting false positives in that setting.
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10-20-2020, 05:30 PM
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Thank CERB for that.
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10-20-2020, 05:52 PM
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Thank CERB for that.
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And/or fentanyl.
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10-20-2020, 06:02 PM
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And/or fentanyl.
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You got it. Fentanyl is rampant.
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There’s more and more fentanyl on the street these days.
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Yup, brother in law and 5 friends all dropped dead laast friday, they were working up north and bought some cocaine. Apparently it was laced with fentanol. Really sad. Sounds like they have founf the dealer. Hope he/she is charged with murder x6.
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Yup, brother in law and 5 friends all dropped dead laast friday, they were working up north and bought some cocaine. Apparently it was laced with fentanol. Really sad. Sounds like they have founf the dealer. Hope he/she is charged with murder x6.
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Holy smokes. Sorry to hear that. That’s crazy.
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Holy smokes. Sorry to hear that. That’s crazy.
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X2, that's awful, Mooseknuckle. Sorry for your loss.
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Originally Posted by mooseknuckle
Yup, brother in law and 5 friends all dropped dead laast friday, they were working up north and bought some cocaine. Apparently it was laced with fentanol. Really sad. Sounds like they have founf the dealer. Hope he/she is charged with murder x6.
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Originally Posted by mooseknuckle
Yup, brother in law and 5 friends all dropped dead laast friday, they were working up north and bought some cocaine. Apparently it was laced with fentanol. Really sad. Sounds like they have founf the dealer. Hope he/she is charged with murder x6.
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That’s brutal, sorry to hear that. The dealer should be given his own medicine.
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Internment camp query
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Hey Sundance, I’ve given up searching any credible information source because you seem to be the only true information.
Is this real? Did the Canadian government make a deal to set up internment camps, then the very next day order a shtload of riot control tear gas? It’s probably fake news right?
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Here you go.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cov...tion-1.5769592
No. There are no general interment camps being planned.
Facilities for homeless who get sick and for those who don’t have a place to self quarantine.
So all is good. No need to fear.
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Conspiracy theories and deliberate misinformation campaigns related to COVID-19 are also expected to continue “as malicious actors seek to sow confusion, mistrust, and politicize the pandemic,” it adds.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...rtan-dhp-feeds
dam covid…..we are in it no matter how you spin it...play it against suicide etc and it is still here...slowly picking away at all of us..... 
we just gota follow protocol on slowing this bugger down until we get a vaccine...even healthy bodies are getting it only to have serious health complications later related to this bugger....
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Originally Posted by mooseknuckle
Yup, brother in law and 5 friends all dropped dead laast friday, they were working up north and bought some cocaine. Apparently it was laced with fentanol. Really sad. Sounds like they have founf the dealer. Hope he/she is charged with murder x6.
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truly sad state of affairs' for all involved.... ...taking drugs...dealing drugs...dam..dam..dam!
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