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Oh Donald.......
Well it started with dairy. Now it's moved on to lumber and will probably address oil and gas soon. Hopefully all those Canadians that support Trump enjoy the ride......... 
http://business.financialpost.com/ne...y-lumber-dairy
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Oh yeah?
Well we will have pot. Lots of it.
And unemployed people. Even more.
Its easy to blame someone else for our lack of government foresight and leadership...
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04-25-2017, 09:53 AM
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I'm enjoying it. We reap what we sow. A lot of good would come from a recession in Canada.
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04-25-2017, 09:58 AM
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He's looking after his countries best interests...nothing wrong with that.
If Trudeau would do the same, instead of trying to save the world we'd be better prepared for whatever happens.
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04-25-2017, 10:01 AM
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Can't blame him for looking after his countries best interests. I guess Canada's plan is smoke weed legally and universal basic income (Ontario has a pilot project starting up)
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04-25-2017, 10:01 AM
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Lets just open markets in Asia and let the yanks build a wall around their whole country. The POTUS cannot make laws on his own, I believe Congress has a say and besides the nukes will be flying soon if donny boy stays in power for very long and none of his loud mouth posturing will matter.
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04-25-2017, 10:05 AM
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Can't blame him for looking after his countries best interests. I guess Canada's plan is smoke weed legally and universal basic income (Ontario has a pilot project starting up)
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Well I guess all that weed will come in handy to help kill time if he slaps a big tariff on Canadian oil......
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04-25-2017, 10:07 AM
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Every President I can remember was behind the softwood lumber Tariffs. Trump aint no different.
So do we have any flex with our main export to the U.S, our Oil that they seem to want?
Seems like those tide water pipelines are even more important now.
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Not sure what he said that was not accurate. Soft wood has been a problem child since NAFTA started, is it surprising to you that it continues to be when it was never dealt with to begin with.
What does 'Free trade" mean to Canada? Subsidies? tariffs?
How is it that Trump decides what Canada does? I thought that was our government's job led by our PM. 
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04-25-2017, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
He's looking after his countries best interests...nothing wrong with that.
If Trudeau would do the same, instead of trying to save the world we'd be better prepared for whatever happens.
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Took the words right out of my mouth, or should I say finger tips.
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04-25-2017, 10:21 AM
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Well I guess all that weed will come in handy to help kill time if he slaps a big tariff on Canadian oil......
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Hope Canada has a plan B.
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04-25-2017, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sooner
Every President I can remember was behind the softwood lumber Tariffs. Trump aint no different.
So do we have any flex with our main export to the U.S, our Oil that they seem to want?
Seems like those tide water pipelines are even more important now.
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04-25-2017, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sooner
Every President I can remember was behind the softwood lumber Tariffs. Trump aint no different.
So do we have any flex with our main export to the U.S, our Oil that they seem to want?
Seems like those tide water pipelines are even more important now.
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If they don't like what we do with our oil or who we sell it to0 - they'll just go ahead a do what they've done with every other weak country that challenges the US Petro Dollar and banking system.
He got elected because he coned voters into believing he was an outsider and was independent and different.
He's owned and completely controlled by the same old financial criminal military industrial neo-con bankster gangster chicken-hawk warrior elitist parasite bloodsucking vampires that owned the last guy - and everyone before him except Kennedy.
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
He's looking after his countries best interests...nothing wrong with that.
If Trudeau would do the same, instead of trying to save the world we'd be better prepared for whatever happens.
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Well put.
Lets worry about our own failed elected officials and their failure to look after their own voters.
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04-25-2017, 10:26 AM
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He's looking after his countries best interests...nothing wrong with that.
If Trudeau would do the same, instead of trying to save the world we'd be better prepared for whatever happens.
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Exactly! Unfortunately having Trudeau as our leader is hurting our economy, and it's only going to get worse, unless he starts working to build our economy, rather than giving away our hard earned money to non Canadians.
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There are many world leaders whose policies I disagree with.
But if we had a leader who stood up for us that would be great, and we wouldn't have to worry about Trump's decisions.
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Originally Posted by JimPS
If they don't like what we do with our oil or who we sell it to0 - they'll just go ahead a do what they've done with every other weak country that challenges the US Petro Dollar and banking system.
He got elected because he coned voters into believing he was an outsider and was independent and different.
He's owned and completely controlled by the same old financial criminal military industrial neo-con bankster gangster chicken-hawk warrior elitist parasite bloodsucking vampires that owned the last guy - and everyone before him except Kennedy.
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Ah Kennedy....
It's not like this stuff isn't transparent...
I assume that most people don't even believe what they see in the mirror anymore...
What do you know about Albert Pike?
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04-25-2017, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sooner
Every President I can remember was behind the softwood lumber Tariffs. Trump aint no different.
So do we have any flex with our main export to the U.S, our Oil that they seem to want?
Seems like those tide water pipelines are even more important now.
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Those pipelines should have been done a LONG time ago, but they weren't. The short of it is, Alberta will be a ghost town if Trump has his way and puts a new tariff on Canadian oil.
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Not sure what he said that was not accurate. Soft wood has been a problem child since NAFTA started, is it surprising to you that it continues to be when it was never dealt with to begin with.
What does 'Free trade" mean to Canada? Subsidies? tariffs?
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Well, lets see how our governments negotiators respond. I am glad that our PM is not just flipping off a knee jerk response to the headlines.
I think a good deal should be a good deal for both parties and not just one forcing the other to take less so that the other an make more.
I am tired of his ME first attitude!
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Every President I can remember was behind the softwood lumber Tariffs. Trump aint no different.
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Pretty much. The fact that the Softwood Lumber Agreement has expired would be one of the reasons he has lumber on his agenda.
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04-25-2017, 10:48 AM
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We don't have to worry about Trump.
Justin Trudeau has been around Canadian politics since he was a boy.
Why he has his father's legacy behind him.
What can possibly go wrong?
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We don't have to worry about Trump.
Justin Trudeau has been around Canadian politics since he was a boy.
Why he has his father's legacy behind him.
What can possibly go wrong?
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Softwood
From what I understand,
Canadian softwood lumber is mostly cut from government lands ie Forest reserve. This is cut by private companies from public lands at very little , almost no cost.
American softwood is cut mostly on privately owned land and the owner is paid market rates for the trees.
This does sound like an unfair advantage.
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From what I understand,
Canadian softwood lumber is mostly cut from government lands ie Forest reserve. This is cut by private companies from public lands at very little , almost no cost.
American softwood is cut mostly on privately owned land and the owner is paid market rates for the trees.
This does sound like an unfair advantage.
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"This is cut by private companies from public lands at very little , almost no cost."
Just where did you come up with that "fact" ?
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04-25-2017, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JimPS
He's owned and completely controlled by the same old financial criminal military industrial neo-con bankster gangster chicken-hawk warrior elitist parasite bloodsucking vampires that owned the last guy - and everyone before him except Kennedy.
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You do have a way with words! 
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Alberta will be a ghost town if Trump has his way and puts a new tariff on Canadian oil.
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On a positive note the hunting and fishing in Alberta will be great again. 
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Well, lets see how our governments negotiators respond. I am glad that our PM is not just flipping off a knee jerk response to the headlines.
I think a good deal should be a good deal for both parties and not just one forcing the other to take less so that the other an make more.
I am tired of his ME first attitude!
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You're referring to Trudeau? Correct?
Trudeau will do one of three things when threatened by Trump.
He will fart in Trump's general direction.
He will play dead.
Or He will take a selfie of himself doing either or both with a scowl on his face as proof that he is a tough negotiator.
Justin is our man if he can't, no one can't.
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Originally Posted by ETOWNCANUCK
We don't have to worry about Trump.
Justin Trudeau has been around Canadian politics since he was a boy.
Why he has his father's legacy behind him.
What can possibly go wrong?
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Very good point !!!
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You're referring to Trudeau? Correct?
Trudeau will do one of three things when threatened by Trump.
He will fart in Trump's general direction.
He will play dead.
Or He will take a selfie of himself doing either or both with a scowl on his face as proof that he is a tough negotiator.
Justin is our man if he can't, no one can't.
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As much as I am not a fan of Justin, your hero Trump has not had much success since he's been in office........just saying
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