Over booked airline flight disasters

[coreya3212]

Originally Posted by rem338win

If you are told to leave private property and you refuse you are trespassing, paid fare or not. If you refuse then they can use escalating force as is reasonable given the resistance or fight that you put up until.you are removed.

If you are kicked off then you leave and sue them. That's your recourse. Not acting like a spoiled child that refuses to give up your fruit loops.

And no reasonable person read into Rugs statement the bizarre rabbit trail you went down.

Hmm, I don't know, try telling tenants who rent your private property to get out this instant...I think your arse in a paid for seat may give you a few entitlements.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by coreya3212

Hmm, I don't know, try telling tenants who rent your private property to get out this instant...I think your arse in a paid for seat may give you a few entitlements.

Different entirely. Local laws dictate landlord and tenant rights same as trespass. In certain states you can be evicted with 3 days notice with breach of contract (don't pay rent). Even in Alberta you can have a 24 hour eviction on appropriate grounds.

Secondly, a person's residence isn't on the same level as a seat on a bus or plane. Tell someone to get the he'll outta your uber or taxi and they have no choice but to get the he'll out. Same as a restaurant or bar. All have different applicable laws and in the end if you are asked to leave and the fuzz shows up then acting like this bone head isn't a mature, professional or reasonable way to handle it.

I'm quite surprised that very little has been said about that. It was an adult tantrum.

[hunting4?]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-gay-sex.html

Doctor dragged off United flight was felon who traded prescription drugs for secret gay sex with patient half his age and took them himself - and he needed anger management, was 'not forthright' and had control issues, psychiatrist found
Dr David Dao's troubled medical past is revealed in court documents
His wife Teresa - also a doctor - reported him to medical authorities and his secret inappropriate gay relationship with a patient was revealed
Father of five, 69, was convicted of a felony - but avoided prison time - because he was giving the man prescription drugs in return for gay sex
He denied the gay sex even though he was caught on camera shirtless and in his pants with Brian Case, his lover, 26, who was a fellow worshiper at his church
Case alleged that Dao wanted to hook him on heroin so he would keep coming to him for gay sex
Psychiatrist found he had series of issues including lacking 'the foundation to navigate difficult situations'
One doctor wrote that he 'he would unilaterally chose to do his own thing'
He only got his licence back after agreeing to be drug tested and polygraphed
United are facing a furious backlash and boycott calls over the video
Their stock price plunged as Wall Street reacted to passenger fury
DailyMail.com also reveals that the airline told staff he had 'tried to strike law enforcement' - despite no evidence for that on the video


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Who cares. The guy is tool. That does not allow a company to treat someone like that.

Now if it involved kids I wish they would have thrown him out at 30,000 feet.
kidding! ..........?

[hunting4?]

Originally Posted by lmtada

United Airlines " Not enough seating, Prepare for a Beating".

Classy !!!!! I like it!

I got booted on a united flight from mexico. Wife and I each got $400.00 worth of credit. Next time I will hold out for much more!

[hunting4?]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Different entirely. Local laws dictate landlord and tenant rights same as trespass. In certain states you can be evicted with 3 days notice with breach of contract (don't pay rent). Even in Alberta you can have a 24 hour eviction on appropriate grounds.

Secondly, a person's residence isn't on the same level as a seat on a bus or plane. Tell someone to get the he'll outta your uber or taxi and they have no choice but to get the he'll out. Same as a restaurant or bar. All have different applicable laws and in the end if you are asked to leave and the fuzz shows up then acting like this bone head isn't a mature, professional or reasonable way to handle it.

I'm quite surprised that very little has been said about that. It was an adult tantrum.

Ya. A 24 hour eviction notice means nothing. Only chance you have is when a tenant commits violence against you! Any smart tenant can milk the system for 2-3 months free rent without to much effort.

I agree he didnt handle the situation very well. But HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN THAT SITUATION TO BEGIN WITH!

And quite frankly if I had somewhere to be and it was very important I sure as heck would tell them to **** off and put there crew on another damn plane!

[Crankbait]

I wonder what the security guys who damaged his face felt when they asked if there was a doctor on the plane?

that would be awkward

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Crankbait

I wonder what the security guys who damaged his face felt when they asked if there was a doctor on the plane?

that would be awkward

I wonder how they will feel in front of a jury if the lawsuit makes it to a courtroom?

[260 Rem]

I would bet United et al will add an extra million dollars to whatever is claimed in the law suit...and settle quietly.

[does it ALL outdoors]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

I had a client in from Italy on a hunt for coyotes. He was having so much fun, he wanted to stay a few days extra.

He called air Canada expecting an upcharge of a few hundred bux to reschedule for later in the week. They wanted over 3 grand besides the ticket he had paid for.
Next day we arrive at the checkin in Calgary and Air Canada tells him he can't fly as they have overbooked the flight. He said no problem, rebook me and pay for a couple days with the guide and we're good.

No way! they were prepared to give him...........zip...nothing.

All this after he tried to rebook and they wanted 3 Gs for the inconvenience.

Within about 3 minutes he convinced them that it was in their best interest that he got on the plane.

Service.

Wow, that is absolutely unacceptable.

I am a BIG proponent of customer service. I will drive farther, pay more, wait longer, whatever it takes to support companies that have stellar customer service. Sadly they are quickly going the way of the dodo

Overbooking should be illegal. The seat is already paid for, who cares if it sits empty? The guy acted like an entitled spoiled little kid pulling the Dr's card (unless he had life saving surgery in the AM) my Dr cancels on me often, throwing a temper tantrum didn't help nor did playing the race card but that dosent excuse the airlines actions. Both could learn from this That's gonna cost them

[does it ALL outdoors]

Originally Posted by hunting4?

I agree he didnt handle the situation very well. But HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN THAT SITUATION TO BEGIN WITH!

I concur. Airlines fault but he didn't help his case either

[CanuckShooter]

This is sort of how it goes

[Riverboy]

[QUOTE=3blade;3514760]Yes but not what we're talking about. Those crew seats are for the crew that is actively working the flight. When airlines need to move crews around, they take up regular seats on the plane. That's what this incident was about. They overbooked AND had crew to accommodate...pretty stupid. Usually it's one or the other.

Also, Westjet is now overbooking just like everyone else. They all overbook and hope for cancellations, that way the plane is full and they take a profit off the passenger initiated rebooks. If they have to offer incentives it costs them basically nothing while the passenger is out time and money.[/QUOTEN

No. Westjet does not overbook. I would know. They send me a cheque every couple of weeks!

[tbiddy]

[QUOTE=Riverboy;3515477]

Originally Posted by 3blade

Yes but not what we're talking about. Those crew seats are for the crew that is actively working the flight. When airlines need to move crews around, they take up regular seats on the plane. That's what this incident was about. They overbooked AND had crew to accommodate...pretty stupid. Usually it's one or the other.

Also, Westjet is now overbooking just like everyone else. They all overbook and hope for cancellations, that way the plane is full and they take a profit off the passenger initiated rebooks. If they have to offer incentives it costs them basically nothing while the passenger is out time and money.[/QUOTEN

No. Westjet does not overbook. I would know. They send me a cheque every couple of weeks!

WestJet

While WestJet does not overbook its flights, the airline leaves open the possibility of flights being “oversold.” In this circumstance, customers will be asked to volunteer to be accommodated on the next available flight. Passengers will be selected for re-accommodation based on check-in time and identified passenger requirements.

Following this, the passenger denied boarding will be placed on the next available flight and issued a form of compensation “acceptable to the passenger.” The passenger is entitled to be informed of all the ways they can choose to receive this compensation.

Lazar believes that airlines could do a much better job of informing passengers about the possibility of overbooking flights, and what they are entitled to in that situation. “I think the airlines do a very poor job of informing passengers, ‘If you buy these tickets, this is what you are entitled to.’ Airports have sufficient information to forewarn passengers.”

http://globalnews.ca/news/3368663/ri...irline-flight/


I don't know what the difference between overbooked and oversold is?

[Riverboy]

Aircraft are sometimes switched out due maintenance issues. Smaller aircraft, fewer seats equal oversold. Rare occurrence but sometimes unavoidable. Not the same as making standard practice of over filling flights.

[tbiddy]

Originally Posted by Riverboy

Aircraft are sometimes switched out due maintenance issues. Smaller aircraft, fewer seats equal oversold. Rare occurrence but sometimes unavoidable. Not the same as making standard practice of over filling flights.

Gotcha

[Okotokian]

Clearly a consumer fraud issue. Government should start playing hardball with airlines. They sell tickets knowing full well they will not be able to honour them. Try that in your business.

[urban rednek]

United Airlines found a way to turn this problem into an opportunity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac-M...ature=youtu.be

United Airlines Superior Class ticket.