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Old 04-08-2017, 01:16 PM
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Default Today is the 100th Anniversary of The Battle for Vimy Ridge

100,000 Canadian Soldiers......10,600 casulties. What they must have went through is unimaginable however their accomplishments were great. It defined Canada as a nation and we are who we are because of this great battle.

The Battle of Vimy Ridge

Introduction

The decades since the Battle of Vimy Ridge have slipped by, but the legacy of the Canadians who accomplished so much in that important First World War battle lives on. Some say that Canada came of age as a country on those harsh April days in 1917.

The First World War

The First World War was the largest conflict the world had ever seen up until that time. It came about due to the political tensions and complex military alliances of the era. The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in the summer of 1914 resulted in an international crisis and by August, the fighting had begun. This bloody four-year war would see Britain (and her Empire), France, Russia and the United States lining up against Germany, Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire.

Canada Goes to War

In 1914, Canada’s external affairs were governed by the United Kingdom. This meant that once Britain declared war, Canada automatically followed. The First World War opened with great enthusiasm and patriotism on the part of many Canadians, with tens of thousands rushing to join the military in the first months of the conflict so they would not miss the action. They need not have worried as the war would grind on for more than four years, killing as many as ten million combatants in fighting that would be revolutionized by high-explosive shells, powerful machine guns, poison gas, submarines and war planes.

The Western Front

After the initial German advances of the war, the battle on the Western Front quickly turned into a stalemate of trench fighting, with the front line zigzagging for nearly 1,000 kilometres from the coast of Belgium to the border of Switzerland.

Life for soldiers in the trenches was miserable. They were often muddy and cold and had to live in the midst of pests like rats, lice and fleas. In this form of warfare, soldiers faced the enemy across a narrow strip of land between the opposing trenches. This was a harsh “No Man’s Land” of mud, barbed wire and shell craters, swept by enemy machine gun fire, and menaced by artillery and snipers. This is what soldiers had to cross when they went “over the top” and launched an attack. The dead and injured who fell in No Man’s Land often could not be recovered.

By the spring of 1917, Europe had been at war for more than two-and-a-half years, with neither side being able to make a significant breakthrough. As part of an Allied offensive, a major attack was planned for April in the area of Arras, France. In this attack, the Canadians would be tasked with capturing Vimy Ridge.

Preparation for Battle

Vimy Ridge is located in northern France, about 175 kilometres north of Paris. It is a long, high hill that dominates the surrounding landscape. Germany captured Vimy Ridge early in the war and transformed it into a strong defensive position, with a complex system of tunnels and trenches manned by highly trained soldiers with many machine guns and artillery pieces. Previous Allied assaults on Vimy Ridge in 1914 and 1915 had resulted in hundreds of thousands of casualties but had been largely unsuccessful.

The Canadians moved to the front lines across from Vimy Ridge in the late autumn of 1916. The Battle of Vimy Ridge would be the first time all four divisions of the Canadian Corps fought together as one formation. The planning and preparations for the battle were extensive. The Canadians spent the entire winter strengthening the lines, preparing for the assault on Vimy and training rigorously. Models of the trench systems were built and the soldiers drilled on what they were to do. They also raided German positions to gather intelligence on enemy defences.

Extensive “mining” operations were undertaken in which the Allies dug tunnels beneath the German lines and set large caches of explosives to be detonated when the time for the attack came. Elaborate tunnel systems with train tracks, piped water, lights, and huge underground bunkers to stockpile supplies and arms were also established to aid the Canadians in the battle.

To soften enemy defences in preparation for the attack, the Allies made a massive and prolonged artillery barrage. The heaviest shelling was spread over a week to avoid tipping off the Germans on exactly when the assault would begin. More than a million shells rained down during what the Germans called the “Week of Suffering.” The early military aircraft of the day also played a role in the battle by sweeping enemy aircraft and observation balloons from the skies.

Battle of Vimy Ridge

The Battle of Vimy Ridge began at 5:30 a.m. on Easter Monday, April 9, 1917. The first wave of 15,000-20,000 Canadian soldiers, many heavily laden with equipment, attacked through the wind-driven snow and sleet into the face of deadly machine gun fire.

The Canadians advanced behind a “creeping barrage.” This precise line of intense Allied artillery fire moved ahead at a set rate and was timed to the minute. The Canadian infantrymen followed the line of explosions closely. This allowed them to capture German positions in the critical moments after the barrage moved on to the next targets but before the enemy soldiers could emerge from the safety of their underground bunkers.

Canadian battalions in the first waves of the assault suffered great numbers of casualties, but the assault proceeded on schedule. Most of the heavily defended ridge was captured by noon. Hill 145, the main height on the ridge, was taken on the morning of April 10. Two days later, the Canadians took “the Pimple,” as the other significant height on the ridge was nicknamed. The Germans were forced to withdraw three kilometres east and the Battle of Vimy Ridge was over. The Allies now commanded the heights overlooking the Douai Plain, which was still occupied by the enemy.

The Canadian Corps, together with the British Corps to the south, had captured more ground, prisoners and artillery pieces than any previous British offensive of the war. Canadians would act with courage throughout the battle. Four of our soldiers would earn the Victoria Cross, the highest medal for military valour, for separate actions in which they captured enemy machine gun positions. They were: Private William Milne, Lance-Sergeant Ellis Sifton, Captain Thain MacDowell and Private John Pattison.

Sacrifice

The Battle of Vimy Ridge proved to be a great success, but it only came at a heavy cost. The some 100,000 Canadians who served there suffered more than 10,600 casualties, nearly 3,600 of which were fatal. By the end of the First World War, Canada, a country of less than eight million people, would see more than 650,000 men and women serve in uniform. The conflict took a huge toll with more than 66,000 Canadians losing their lives and over 170,000 being wounded.

The Legacy

At Vimy Ridge, regiments from coast to coast saw action together in a distinctly Canadian triumph, helping create a new and stronger sense of national identity in our country. Canada’s military achievements during the war raised our international stature and helped earn us a separate signature on the Treaty of Versailles that formally ended the war.

Today, on land granted to Canada for all time by a grateful France, the Canadian National Vimy Memorial sits atop Hill 145, rising above the now quiet countryside. This great monument is inscribed with the names of 11,285 Canadian soldiers who were listed as “missing, presumed dead” in France during the First World War. It stands as a tribute to all who served our country in the conflict and paid a price to help ensure the peace and freedom we enjoy today.

Canada Remembers Program

The Canada Remembers Program of Veterans Affairs Canada encourages all Canadians to learn about the sacrifices and achievements made by those who have served—and continue to serve—during times of war and peace. As well, it invites Canadians to become involved in remembrance activities that will help preserve their legacy for future generations.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/rememb...ct_sheets/vimy
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Old 04-08-2017, 02:18 PM
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My Great Grandfather was there, and he was among the lucky ones to have made it out. He wasn't unscathed, he lost some fingers on one hand during the war, though I do not know which particular battle that happened in.

Great Grandpa fought at: Vimy Ridge, The Somme, Ypres, And Passchendale. He's the fellow seated on the left pictured here.

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Vimy Ridge videos ... https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=vimy+ridge&tbm=vid

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My grandfather flew a Sopwith Camel in WWI.
He told me they were fire traps when hit and their were no parachutes.
Yet he considered himself extremely lucky not to be in the trenches.
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Old 04-08-2017, 03:12 PM
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My daughter is there with a school group from Whitecourt for the anniversary. It will be the biggest lesson of her young life. Her insights will be interesting to hear when she returns.
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May they all rest in peace. Such a sacrifice for freedom!!!!
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My Great Grandfather was there, and he was among the lucky ones to have made it out. He wasn't unscathed, he lost some fingers on one hand during the war, though I do not know which particular battle that happened in.

Great Grandpa fought at: Vimy Ridge, The Somme, Ypres, And Passchendale. He's the fellow seated on the left pictured here.

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Arrow The Canadian National Vimy Memorial

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If you know how to use Google Earth, you can 'walk' around the Vimy Memorial using this link; https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.37950...7i13312!8i6656

The walls of the memorial bear the inscribed names of 11,168 missing Canadians, killed in action in France during WWI, but whose remains have not been found or identified.

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Pte Albert Yeudall, my Grandfather. 42nd Quebec Regiment (aka The Black Watch) 42nd Canadian Infantry. Served in WWI from the beginning to the end and survived. Military Medal recipient for Bravery in the Field. Lest we Forget.

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Seated is my grandfather, who enlisted April 1916 with the 232nd Battalion, CEF. Arrived in France November 1917. Wounded March 12, 1918 near Lens by shrapnel. Standing is his younger brother who was with the British Royal Field Artillery. In all, 4 boys from the family went to war and all survived.


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My Grandad also served from 1915-1918. ( gassed , shot ,shrapnelled) He was untouched at Vimy though -2nd battalion. I Remember the ww1 vets getting old and now ww2 veterans are 95 or so.
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Friends of mine with the Langley Museum of Flight took a bunch of WW1 replica aircraft to France, via an RCAF C-17. Did a flypast of Hill 70, doing a flypast of Vimy tomorrow.
Wish I could have been there.
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My 15 year old is there with his 93 year old great grandfather and the First Hussars unit out of London, Ontario. His great great grandfather was wounded in Vimy. Trip of a lifetime.
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take to remember today on the 100th anniversary .

Today marks the 100th anniversary of the battle of Vimy Ridge. The first time all 4 Canadian Divisions fought together under Canadian command. The Canadian Corps did what the French and British couldn't do- take Vimy Ridge.

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The capture of Vimy was more than just an important battlefield victory. For the first time all four Canadian divisions attacked together: men from all regions of *Canada were present at the battle. Brigadier-General A.E. Ross declared after the war, “in those few minutes I witnessed the birth of a nation.”*




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I hope everyone takes a few minutes today to read and recognize some of the stories of this historical battle. I'd like to think that I have the balls to do what some of these men had to do but I'm not sure. Amazing stories of courage.
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A couple nights ago I listened to a show on CBC that featured historian Tim Cook talking about how the battle of Vimy Ridge became a cultural icon in Canada. It's a really fascinating look at how the battle became such an impotrant part of Canada's creation story.

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/vimy-a...lity-1.4058675

For example I had no idea that Arthur Currie wasn't the commander of the Canadian Corps at the time of the battle. A British officer named Julian Byng who later became Governor General of Canada was, Currie was the commander of the 1st Canadian Division and became Corps commander later.

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A couple nights ago I listened to a show on CBC that featured historian Tim Cook talking about how the battle of Vimy Ridge became a cultural icon in Canada. It's a really fascinating look at how the battle became such an import part of Canada's creation story.

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/vimy-a...lity-1.4058675

For example I had no idea that Arthur Currie wasn't the commander of the Canadian Corps at the time of the battle. A British officer named Julian Byng who later became Governor General of Canada was, Currie was the commander of the 1st Canadian Division and became Corps commander later.
Soldiers left from provinces to fight, all came together as a country.
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Question Vimy 'Day'

So today is considered the Battle of Vimy Ridge Day and marks the beginning of the battle. But if you consider the entire battle, including the German counter attacks (which failed), the battle actually lasted several days.

I think we should refer to it as "Vimy Week". Its much more fitting and accurate.
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Soldiers left from provinces to fight, all came together as a country.
What are you trying to say here? Is this somehow at odds with what I posted?
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Cool There is already a very good thread on this subject

-> http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=319257
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Thumbs up A fitting tribute

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What are you trying to say here? Is this somehow at odds with what I posted?
I guess when you look back at history, books, thought, interpretations of an event, events, it is ones take but there is no dought those men fought for what they thought was a worthy fight, and fight a fight they didn't start but by jeepers where going to finish. Could only imagine what they endured and for that I am and will always be grateful for.
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I guess when you look back at history, books, thought, interpretations of an event, events, it is ones take but there is no dought those men fought for what they thought was a worthy fight, and fight a fight they didn't start but by jeepers where going to finish. Could only imagine what they endured and for that I am and will always be grateful for.
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You need to listen to the program I posted a link for. It's about what's happened the last 100 years and how Vimy became an icon. That doesn't take anything away from the sacrifice made by those who fought.

You seem to be interpreting my post incorrectly.
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My Grandfather was in 148th battallion and was shot in the shoulder at Vimy ridge. He was 35 yrs old at the time. While in the hospital in London he learned that his friend had been killed during the attack.When he came home he went to visit his friends family and and subsequently met and eventually married his friends sister. I apparently owe my existence to the battle of Vimy Ridge
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Have been reading a lot about Vimy because of the anniversary, and read something very odd. Did you guys know that during the occupation of France, Hitler admired the Vimy memorial because the monument represented peace, and posted SS guards to protect it from vandalism? This surprised me, and just shows you dig enough and you will learn something new everyday.
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