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B.C. drinking driving regulation
In B.C. I believe the law you are talking about is a regulation and therefor almost impossible to fight in court. Also the regulation states that if an officer believes or thinks you are impaired (look up impaired in the dictionary)he or she doesn't have to prove you are impaired, example, with a breathaliser test, before taking your license and automobile. If your automobile is taken and impounded for say 3 days and you prove you weren't impaired you still cannot get you automobile back before the 3 days are up. This is the type of regulation or law that Hitler enacted in Germany before WW2. This is a dictatorial type regulation or law. Our democracy is going down hill fast. Check it out, you may have the same regulation in Alberta.
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08-02-2013, 07:40 AM
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No bad drinking and driving laws here
What would make a cop ,think you are impaired and are a threat
To public safety . Without confirming it with a breathalyzer .
Oh ya your acting plain ass stupid
Drinking and driving should bring lifetime suspension. And a lot stiffer
Penalties than we have especially for vehicular manslaughter .
If you get behind the wheel drunk in this day and age ,your basically
An Alcoholic and need help .....as well as a good caning.
Hitler , was he premier of BC before or after Commandant Bennett .
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08-02-2013, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Winch101
What would make a cop ,think you are impaired and are a threat
To public safety . Without confirming it with a breathalyzer .
Oh ya your acting plain ass stupid
Drinking and driving should bring lifetime suspension. And a lot stiffer
Penalties than we have especially for vehicular manslaughter .
If you get behind the wheel drunk in this day and age ,your basically
An Alcoholic and need help .....as well as a good caning.
Hitler , was he premier of BC before or after Commandant Bennett .
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cause 0.05 is impaired....
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08-02-2013, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bubba 96
cause 0.05 is impaired....
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Some people seem to think that any amount of alcohol in your system will turn you into a blood shot eyed, word slurring drunk.
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08-02-2013, 08:29 AM
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Drinking Test
Seeing as these laws are for the total population ....I think you
Should be able to take your beverage of choice down to the police station
Or better yet ,the registry , and have your personal tolerance measure .
Then your impaired percentile could be put on your drivers licence .
So the cops know ,when you blow .10 ,your still OK..
You might be a genius at point 0 five .....and get smarter and more agile
As the number increases. Or how about Zero tolerance , so when you get
Out of your car your the same idiot that got in . Only your total natural
Stupid state is to blame for the way you drive .
Limpdicked lawmakers are the only reason this asinine subject is still debated .
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08-02-2013, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Winch101
Seeing as these laws are for the total population ....I think you
Should be able to take your beverage of choice down to the police station
Or better yet ,the registry , and have your personal tolerance measure .Then your impaired percentile could be put on your drivers licence .
So the cops know ,when you blow .10 ,your still OK..
You might be a genius at point 0 five .....and get smarter and more agile
As the number increases. Or how about Zero tolerance , so when you get
Out of your car your the same idiot that got in . Only your total natural
Stupid state is to blame for the way you drive .
Limpdicked lawmakers are the only reason this asinine subject is still debated .
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That is not possible.
Tolerance changes because it is dependant upon a number of other unfixed variables and not just size, experience etc.
Nobody can know absolutley what their blood alcohol level will be on any given day based upon how much they drink.
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08-02-2013, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winch101
Seeing as these laws are for the total population ....I think you
Should be able to take your beverage of choice down to the police station
Or better yet ,the registry , and have your personal tolerance measure .
Then your impaired percentile could be put on your drivers licence .
So the cops know ,when you blow .10 ,your still OK..
You might be a genius at point 0 five .....and get smarter and more agile
As the number increases. Or how about Zero tolerance , so when you get
Out of your car your the same idiot that got in . Only your total natural
Stupid state is to blame for the way you drive .
Limpdicked lawmakers are the only reason this asinine subject is still debated .
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You may of lost me in potential sarcasm... the only thing that improves with increased alcohol is the attractiveness of your date.
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08-02-2013, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Winch101
Seeing as these laws are for the total population ....
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That's the problem Winch, they are not... Google RCMP officers caught drunk driving and look at how many were convicted. Just another fox in the henhouse, and these officers are the judge, jury and executioner.
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08-02-2013, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Badger
That is not possible.
Tolerance changes because it is dependant upon a number of other unfixed variables and not just size, experience etc.
Nobody can know absolutley what their blood alcohol level will be on any given day based upon how much they drink.
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Exactly why the 0.05 is a critical measure. While it should be the new legal limit...for some reason they made it a grace period number.
There were some articles that police and bars did to show what your blood alcohol is after a dinner and couple of drinks. Depending upon your body weight it is good to know your limits before getting behind the wheel.
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08-02-2013, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
You may of lost me in potential sarcasm... the only thing that improves with increased alcohol is the attractiveness of your date.
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Thats not true.
It can also improve your day
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08-02-2013, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Badger
Thats not true.
It can also improve your day
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Until the next day when you wake up in the morning and see a Badger in bed beside you.
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08-02-2013, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Winch101
Seeing as these laws are for the total population ....I think you
Should be able to take your beverage of choice down to the police station
Or better yet ,the registry , and have your personal tolerance measure .
Then your impaired percentile could be put on your drivers licence .
So the cops know ,when you blow .10 ,your still OK..
You might be a genius at point 0 five .....and get smarter and more agile
As the number increases. Or how about Zero tolerance , so when you get
Out of your car your the same idiot that got in . Only your total natural
Stupid state is to blame for the way you drive .
Limpdicked lawmakers are the only reason this asinine subject is still debated .
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worked for DR. Johnnie Fever......damn showing my age...
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08-02-2013, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
Until the next day when you wake up in the morning and see a Badger in bed beside you.
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Note to self.... remember to lock my doors when SDF is on yet another bender...
You never know where that guy will show up.
AND... he's a blanket hog
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08-02-2013, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
You may of lost me in potential sarcasm... the only thing that improves with increased alcohol is the attractiveness of your date.
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I disagree. With alcohol I get taller, richer & more co-ordinated.
Also, the more booze I drink also increases the size of the various antlers on my wall and in my antler shed.
My hunting dog also gets better (and I will tell you about it too) when I drink beer. My hunting dog is the best of all time when I drink whiskey - disagree and whiskey brings out my inner Chuck Norris.
In general, booze works for me.
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08-02-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjay
In B.C. I believe the law you are talking about is a regulation and therefor almost impossible to fight in court. Also the regulation states that if an officer believes or thinks you are impaired (look up impaired in the dictionary)he or she doesn't have to prove you are impaired, example, with a breathaliser test, before taking your license and automobile. If your automobile is taken and impounded for say 3 days and you prove you weren't impaired you still cannot get you automobile back before the 3 days are up. This is the type of regulation or law that Hitler enacted in Germany before WW2. This is a dictatorial type regulation or law. Our democracy is going down hill fast. Check it out, you may have the same regulation in Alberta.
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Impaired driving is an offence under the Criminal Code of Canada, not 100% sure, but standards are identical across the country, i know provincial highway reg's do set out the limit for B.A.C.
As far as i understand it, a bac above .05 does not in itself constitute an impaired driving charge...you may have two separate subjects mixed together here...Again i'm no expert
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08-02-2013, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Badger
Note to self.... remember to lock my doors when SDF is on yet another bender...
You never know where that guy will show up.
AND... he's a blanket hog
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OMG...that was extremely funny but a big lie.
I share blanket space... I am just a big guy.
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08-02-2013, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sneeze
I disagree. With alcohol I get taller, richer & more co-ordinated.
Also, the more booze I drink also increases the size of the various antlers on my wall and in my antler shed.
My hunting dog also gets better (and I will tell you about it too) when I drink beer. My hunting dog is the best of all time when I drink whiskey - disagree and whiskey brings out my inner Chuck Norris.
In general, booze works for me.
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LOL Very, very funny also.
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08-02-2013, 01:41 PM
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Very simple solution to all this mess. Don't drink and drive. Can't believe people haven't figured that out yet!!!!!!!!
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I agree, drinking, no driving. But. How come before alberta went .05, you were considered impaired at .08. Some states have it at .1. So tell me, is it some places you are not impaired til .1 or is it .05. I figure if your impaired, shouldn't it be the same everywhere? Never made sense to me how locations can make you legally impaired at different levels.
I know it's all beurocratic BS, but really?
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08-02-2013, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WCTHEMI
Very simple solution to all this mess. Don't drink and drive. Can't believe people haven't figured that out yet!!!!!!!!
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What is drinking and driving though? Is that impaired driving, or is it registering any amount of alcohol in your system?
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08-02-2013, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott N
What is drinking and driving though? Is that impaired driving, or is it registering any amount of alcohol in your system?
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For me the answer is registering any amount of alcohol in your system
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08-02-2013, 02:39 PM
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Isn't .08 and impaired driving two different charges?
Illegal to drive with over .08
Illegal to drive while impaired.
First offence impaired driving should be life time driving suspension and forfeit vehicle. Subsequent offences, jail time and OMG!!!!!!! fines.
Impaired causing injury or death, same treatment as running amok with a weapon. Shot then tasered and spit on.
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08-02-2013, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Redfrog
Isn't .08 and impaired driving two different charges?
Illegal to drive with over .08
Illegal to drive while impaired.
First offence impaired driving should be life time driving suspension and forfeit vehicle. Subsequent offences, jail time and OMG!!!!!!! fines.
Impaired causing injury or death, same treatment as running amok with a weapon. Shot then tasered and spit on.
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You're 100% about .08 and impaired being two different charges. A person could be impaired by prescription drugs, or some people could have an BAC of .01 and still be charged with impaired driving, if they are actually impaired by it.
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08-02-2013, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FishingMOM
For me the answer is registering any amount of alcohol in your system
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So should a person who has a teaspoon of cough syrup in the morning that has alcohol in it be charged? And would that person be more dangerous on the road than someone who is 100% sober but just worked a 12 hour overnight shift at work?
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08-02-2013, 03:38 PM
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What is drinking and driving though? Is that impaired driving, or is it registering any amount of alcohol in your system?
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Fair enough. But if you don't drive after consuming alcohol, you don't need to worry. And the cough syrup argument is taking it just a wee bit over the top.
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Fair enough. But if you don't drive after consuming alcohol, you don't need to worry. And the cough syrup argument is taking it just a wee bit over the top.
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You're right about not having to worry about breaking the law of you don't have any alcohol and drive, but many people want 0% tolerance, and that's why I use the cough medicine example. 0% is 0%, is it not. What if a person is has a BAC of .000001?
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08-02-2013, 05:38 PM
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Very simple solution to all this mess. Don't drink and drive. Can't believe people haven't figured that out yet!!!!!!!!
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Can't be that simple. Must in involve Debtford, aliens, pot and an Obama conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by Scott N
You're right about not having to worry about breaking the law of you don't have any alcohol and drive, but many people want 0% tolerance, and that's why I use the cough medicine example. 0% is 0%, is it not. What if a person is has a BAC of .000001?
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If I blow into a breathalyzer I will always register 0.01 even with nothing to drink. So do my two boys -- aged 11 and 13. My wife always registers 0.0 though. This has been with the cheap versions that sell retail. The same thing has happened with several different versions though. Breathalyzers are machines and there needs to be a margin of error accepted with them.
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08-02-2013, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Wazy.338
Impaired driving is an offence under the Criminal Code of Canada, not 100% sure, but standards are identical across the country, i know provincial highway reg's do set out the limit for B.A.C.
As far as i understand it, a bac above .05 does not in itself constitute an impaired driving charge...you may have two separate subjects mixed together here...Again i'm no expert
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No he doesn't...here is how it works in BC. You stop in at the local pub and have one beer and a plate of natchos, when you pull out of the parking lot the local police pulls you over and asks 'sir, have you been drinking?'. If you answer that you've had one beer...you have admitted to consuming alcohol and the officer may deem you to be impaired and impound your vehicle for 3 days. As a professional he is deemed to have been properly trained to spot impaired drivers and you are hooped. The lesson...sometimes your better off not to tell the truth to a peace officer????
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