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11-06-2016, 07:48 PM
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I know that when their dollar craps out and we catch them again I'm gunna upgrade my house in pheonix before they figure out what will fix that mess.
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11-06-2016, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild&Free
sadly, the American education system is not producing very many critical thinkers...
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Same can be said for all western democracies.
If I wanted a kid to be totally engulfed in group think...I'd send him to University these days. Sad what has happened. When shouting "racist" is seen as being enlightened, we know we have surpassed apogee.
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11-06-2016, 07:59 PM
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Recognized anybody from this rally in O'Keefe videos? What you heard could very well be guy paid by Hillary.
I am just curious, AVB, do you really believe all evidences of her wrongdoings are false and misinformation? Over 100 000 000$ pocketed by Clintons while she was Secretary of State, wedding paid with "charity" money, cheating during debates, free pass on classified information mishandling, destroying state records, actually making sure it's all gone, insulting anybody's intelligence with her "wiped it with a cloth" comment? Common, I know you won't answer, but seriously, just think for a second. There are times when policies and personalities just don't matter, because very basic principles and mechanisms of democracy are at risk.
I've seen one young democracy going into gutter, it's called Putin's Russia now - believe me if Hillary gets her way in 4 (read 8) years you have just another version of it, only more powerful. Actually with all signs of her crookedness, if she goes jail-free and gets elected - the USA already IS the most powerful but totally corrupt state.
BTW, unlike HRC, Wikileaks was never proven wrong, not once yet. And on wikileaks alone she should be jailed for a very, very long time.
PS. Sadly I think she will win
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Don't confuse the fact that I am scared spitless of a Trump presidency that it means I think Clinton is a great choice. I don't. However, at the very least she knows the Constitution, which Trump doesn't, and she knows she will have to work with whatever Congress the American voters elect. Trump thinks he can run roughshod over that branch of government; he would quickly learn, that even with a GOP Senate (which I'm not convinced will happen now), that those Senators for the most part will not allow their Constitutional powers usurped. If he plays games, he will quickly learn that nothing gets through.
I'm not even sure the GOP can hang on to the House.
The best case scenario for the next four years, from my perspective, is a strong GOP Congress with a Clinton presidency. As my neighbors down south in Florida have said many times, that mistake of a Clinton presidency can be corrected in 4 years.
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11-06-2016, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by avb3
Don't confuse the fact that I am scared spitless of a Trump presidency that it means I think Clinton is a great choice. I don't. However, at the very least she knows the Constitution, which Trump doesn't, and she knows she will have to work with whatever Congress the American voters elect. Trump thinks he can run roughshod over that branch of government; he would quickly learn, that even with a GOP Senate (which I'm not convinced will happen now), that those Senators for the most part will not allow their Constitutional powers usurped. If he plays games, he will quickly learn that nothing gets through.
I'm not even sure the GOP can hang on to the House.
The best case scenario for the next four years, from my perspective, is a strong GOP Congress with a Clinton presidency. As my neighbors down south in Florida have said many times, that mistake of a Clinton presidency can be corrected in 4 years.
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Well, I lived in the USA for almost 10 years and had great respect for institute of Presidency and the whole democratic mechanics of this country, I, actually, envied it. But if them folks insist on having Hillary in power - God's speed, "country has the government it deserves". Too bad democracy is a failed experiment, it seemed to be the right way to go.
PS, I don't know how much she knows about the Constitution, but she seems very knowledgeable about criminal code in parts how to evade being convicted.
PPS, Seriously, she raked in over a 100 million dollars as a Secretary of State, imagine what she can do as POTUS. Your GOP Congress will just not matter - it will be bought. In two days it's a make or brake for the USA, and it is scary, because Hillary will, most likely, win.
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11-06-2016, 08:54 PM
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The one thing we can all agree on is that the world will take a turn for the worse on Tuesday.
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11-06-2016, 09:01 PM
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The one thing we can all agree on is that the world will take a turn for the worse on Tuesday.
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Texas is pink in the polls - sky is falling  . World is in immanent danger
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11-06-2016, 09:39 PM
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Same can be said for all western democracies.
If I wanted a kid to be totally engulfed in group think...I'd send him to University these days. Sad what has happened. When shouting "racist" is seen as being enlightened, we know we have surpassed apogee.
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I started watching some debates and lectures by Ben Shapiro... I just appreciate the fact he doesn't lump liberals in with leftists. Some of us liberals still believe in the ideals of liberty.
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11-06-2016, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Newview01
The one thing we can all agree on is that the world will take a turn for the worse on Tuesday.
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Pretty much concur. I think and hope Trump will lose, but I am not at all enthralled with a Clinton win. How did the DNC and GOP end up that way? The GOP actually had some good candidates, but flash and dash eliminated them.
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11-06-2016, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Newview01
The one thing we can all agree on is that the world will take a turn for the worse on Tuesday.
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If Clinton is elected I would call it more of an asymptotic continuation towards absolute corruption and economic meh. If Trump is elected, maybe not. 
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11-06-2016, 10:20 PM
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If Hillary is elected - it's a groundhog day for me.
Anyone here believes Putin can be voted out of power? Good luck with Clinton's gang, different country - same schit. Sad watching the greatest democracy going down the drain.
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11-06-2016, 10:24 PM
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UK 2015 pollsters stated it would be close finish and it was a landslide...peeps the last couple years are skewing the stats
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