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Old 11-05-2016, 06:22 PM
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Default North American Wilderness: Not what you though it was like podcast

http://backstoryradio.org/shows/untrammeled-2016/

"BackStory is quitting the city and heading into the wild. In this episode, Brian, Ed, and Peter return to America’s fascination with wild places and learn how we impact even the most remote corners of our country. The Guys explore how early European arrivals created wilderness out of a landscape long shaped by human intervention, find out how the city of San Francisco controlled the remote Hetch Hetchy valley, hundreds of miles away, and ask how our ideas about wild places have changed over time."


Definitely worth listening to. It describes how what we have been taught was pristine wilderness, especially in the eastern USA, wasn't and why. The impact from man happened long before white settlers came to North America.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:14 AM
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You might like to read "1491" by Charles C Mann.
It covers a lot of what you mentioned. Amazon has it.

It was quite a eye-opener for me.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:37 AM
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You might like to read "1491" by Charles C Mann.
It covers a lot of what you mentioned. Amazon has it.

It was quite a eye-opener for me.
The podcast mentions it, as well as the followup book, "1493". I put them both on my Christmas Wishlist for my kids to consider.
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Old 11-06-2016, 12:22 PM
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The podcast mentions it, as well as the followup book, "1493".....
Did Mann write it? If so, I want to read it. I think he's a "darn" good Historical author who actually does research, instead of parroting other so-called "researchers".
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Old 11-06-2016, 01:56 PM
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Did Mann write it? If so, I want to read it. I think he's a "darn" good Historical author who actually does research, instead of parroting other so-called "researchers".
Yes he did.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...=2DNONCCXOPA6Q
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Old 11-06-2016, 02:49 PM
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You also might try "Stolen Continents" by Ronald Wright.
(Ronald is my first name, but I ain't Wright, so I never wrote it.)


A Canadian author, originally from Great Britain.

In the Introduction he says something like: "White Europeans have had the floor long enough. This is only the point of view of Indigenous peoples".

I THINK that's what he said, can't find my copy, so don't quote me.

Another thing in the book:

"You cannot discover an inhabited land. Otherwise, I could cross the Atlantic and discover England".
- Chief Dehatkadons (SP?)
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