Grizzly Hunt

[Demonical]

I just watched a video on the Weather Network about a spike in grizzly bears, this report was from B.C.

Naturally they said how 'grizzlies had been hunted nearly to extinction' (in the U.S.).

And then the obvious, that banning 'Trophy Hunting' (is how they phrased it), of grizzlies in B.C. has allowed a 'gradual increase' in grizzly numbers.

Oh my god, listening to was painful, just pure left-wing spin on the entire thing.

And then they ended with saying that people were just going to have to live/coexist with grizzlies and listed all the ways to be avoid being mauled/attacked by grizzlies.

Alberta grizzly population has exploded. For all the same reasons.

There never used to be grizzly sighting south of Whitecourt, but now there are grizzlies in every direction around town.

As soon as you are 1 km outside town you can run into one of the buggers.

Where I hunt, I had a bunch of pics last year of a big dry sow and a huge boar wandering around.

I'm pretty much certain that sow is going to be trolling 2 or 3 cubs with her this year.
Fwiw, there was another grizzly sow with cubs in my hunting area last year also, and I was lucky enough not to run into her.

Bring back the friggin' grizzly hunt. Plain and simple.

[Stinky Buffalo]

I still like our idea of shipping our surplus bruins (alive and grumpy) to Ottawa.

[Demonical]

^ Awesome idea!

Round up a truckload of sows with cubs, drop 'em off around Ontario.

[-JR-]

When the caribou herds starts getting smaller they will either start shooting them from helicopters or poisoning the grizzlies but will never sell tags even if they roam in to town mauling people . We need to live with them because its there land not ours . Lol !

[Rio56]

I doubt we will ever see a grizzly hunting season again , as much as I would like .. The population growth is not the only problem .
Think of this .
When a sow with cubs attacks a human the education has started . Now the cubs have seen and learned the process .. It's ok and the thing to do and on it goes ..
The fear of people is long gone in the grizzly world..
So it's not just controlling the pop with hunting, it's the fear factor too

Who is the top dog

[NCC]

Did they mention how many bears are killed each year by F and W officers or park wardens (sorry if I have their titles wrong)? I don't think many nuisance g-bears (especially males) are still being relocated.

[W921]

In my area the wolves are way worse than bears,cougar's etc but the wolves basically have all the deer in town for protection. Getting cougars, coyote's in town now and I think its great. Would love for grizzlies ,wolves to come to town as well. In their backyard's and at their work places to and see how they like it.
When I had bears it sucked to be me because I was in their territory. Well town used to be grizzly,wolf territory so sucks to be you.

[Demonical]

Remember 20(?) years ago Ontario stopped the spring black bear hunt.
The nuisance bear numbers exploded to the point that the province actually created a problem bear response squad to deal with.
After X number of years and how many millions of wasted tax payer dollars versus the positive revenue/tourism dollars generated by the hunt, they finally clued in and re-instated the hunt.

Also remember it was only a couple years ago that 2 different people, on private acreages just north of Calgary, were killed by grizzlies.

Sadly it'll take more maulings, problem bears for anything to change here.

But it's possible.

Biggest problem I have is the media spin on any of these type stories. Always leftwing college so-called experts.

[Rio56]

Originally Posted by Demonical

Remember 20(?) years ago Ontario stopped the spring black bear hunt.
The nuisance bear numbers exploded to the point that the province actually created a problem bear response squad to deal with.
After X number of years and how many millions of wasted tax payer dollars versus the positive revenue/tourism dollars generated by the hunt, they finally clued in and re-instated the hunt.

Also remember it was only a couple years ago that 2 different people, on private acreages just north of Calgary, were killed by grizzlies.

Sadly it'll take more maulings, problem bears for anything to change here.

But it's possible.

Biggest problem I have is the media spin on any of these type stories. Always leftwing college so-called experts.

Yes the one was on private property , if that means anything . Well is should .
If a grizz can attack you on private property and your actions may lead to a
$100,000 fine and 10 years is crazy
The bears are winning forsure

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Rio56

Yes the one was on private property , if that means anything . Well is should .
If a grizz can attack you on private property and your actions may lead to a
$100,000 fine and 10 years is crazy
The bears are winning forsure

I'll throw in Robert Wagner, killed just the other side of H 22 from me and Miles away from "Grizzly habitat ". To my way of thinking, society has lost the survival instinct that led us to dominate the planet.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

I'll throw in Robert Wagner, killed just the other side of H 22 from me and Miles away from "Grizzly habitat ". To my way of thinking, society has lost the survival instinct that led us to dominate the planet.

That really seems to be the case.

I keep telling my kids that there'll be grizzlies in the Edmonton city limits within their lifetime. Maybe even mine.

[3blade]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

That really seems to be the case.

I keep telling my kids that there'll be grizzlies in the Edmonton city limits within their lifetime. Maybe even mine.

There was one raiding beehives close to barrhead a few years ago

I’ve long since stopped caring what official bs is on some paper in Edmonton or Ottawa. The bullet still exits the barrel when I decide it does.

Worth remembering, Ralph ran scared from Kevin van Tighem/MEC and banned the hunt and every “conservative” government since is too scared to do anything about it. You can blame the BC closure on dippers but ours is right from the conservative old boys club. Call your MLA and let them know what you think

[SageValleyOutdoors]

The one species i wish other FN hunters would start blasting more of…

[W921]

Originally Posted by SageValleyOutdoors

The one species i wish other FN hunters would start blasting more of…

My understanding is they are sacred to them and won't shoot em. People not just me but others had same idea for problem grizzlies in their yards ripping a part grain bins and killing cattle.

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by W921

My understanding is they are sacred to them and won't shoot em. People not just me but others had same idea for problem grizzlies in their yards ripping a part grain bins and killing cattle.

Not sacred for all the bands actually.

We had a grizzly bear right in town last summer, the local bear experts tell you if you are bear aware they won't bother you.

[3blade]

Originally Posted by W921

My understanding is they are sacred to them and won't shoot em. People not just me but others had same idea for problem grizzlies in their yards ripping a part grain bins and killing cattle.

That’s not exactly true. There are some tribes that don’t hunt them. Most did, many still would but they don’t want the bad publicity. FNs and Y2Y ecoterrorists are uneasy allies, but they both want non-FNs locked out of the landscape. Grizzly-justified bans and closures are a way to do that while keeping the spin positive.

[SageValleyOutdoors]

Originally Posted by W921

My understanding is they are sacred to them and won't shoot em. People not just me but others had same idea for problem grizzlies in their yards ripping a part grain bins and killing cattle.

Not to me they’re not… anyone having a grizzly problem north of sundre, give me a shout.
Grizzly stew is delicious!

[landowner]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Not sacred for all the bands actually.

We had a grizzly bear right in town last summer, the local bear experts tell you if you are bear aware they won't bother you.

My FN friends tell me how sacred the grizzly is depends on the clan or the family. Some of those boys are very effective, some not so much.

[Demonical]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziib-MZ5IXY

^ This video was shot ~ 10km south of Whitecourt up in the Groat Creek loop.

[W921]

Originally Posted by Demonical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziib-MZ5IXY

^ This video was shot ~ 10km south of Whitecourt up in the Groat Creek loop.

They are even bigger in your yard. Or horseback in brush just before dark. Another thing is wolves dont think nothing of going after these bears.That's how bad wolves are.
That bear in your video didn't seem to worried about you.

[Rio56]

I've seen that vid before and honestly ...
Gross ,
and we live with these things in our back yard

stupid chit

[Demonical]

@ W921, I didn't shoot that video. it was a couple guys cruising Groat Creek loop and saw that.

It's great that they just decided to video that, cuz that's one of the most amazing wildlife interactions you'll ever see.
I consider it the best I've ever seen simply based om local interest, since it happened so close to home.

Second place for amazing wildlife vid is called Battle at Kruger.
Off topic but that's worth a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM&t=339s

[DirtShooter]

Originally Posted by Demonical

@ W921, I didn't shoot that video. it was a couple guys cruising Groat Creek loop and saw that.

It's great that they just decided to video that, cuz that's one of the most amazing wildlife interactions you'll ever see.
I consider it the best I've ever seen simply based om local interest, since it happened so close to home.

Second place for amazing wildlife vid is called Battle at Kruger.
Off topic but that's worth a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM&t=339s

Really nice video to watch, thanks.

[FlyTheory]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Not sacred for all the bands actually.

We had a grizzly bear right in town last summer, the local bear experts tell you if you are bear aware they won't bother you.

90% of that is true. When I solo hunt I don’t do any scented stuff or food with 500m of my camp and my cooking stuff is always downstream of the prevailing wind. But this doesn’t take into account encountering a grizz…

[Demonical]

^ I use an electric fence around my camp in spring or fall hunting. November deer I haven't used it.

I bought mine at Co-op, it's intended for cattle fencing, pretty powerful. Runs off a 12v battery.