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Old 06-22-2018, 09:49 PM
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Not that I am complaining, but how did the Oilers end up with a D-man that was captain of his team and score 25 goals and had 87 points in 67 games last year. Why the heck didn't this kid go earlier?

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Old 06-23-2018, 01:47 AM
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Right handed stud of a d-man!!!! This is awsome! We now have a quarter back for the power play! He’s got a sledge hammer slap shot.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:13 AM
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Not that I am complaining, but how did the Oilers end up with a D-man that was captain of his team and score 25 goals and had 87 points in 67 games last year. Why the heck didn't this kid go earlier?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...all-nhl-draft/
Cuz Arizona, Chicago, and the Rangers went a bit walkabout, and Vancouver was clueless, and took that skinny little kid from the U of Michigan. Happy dance!

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Old 06-23-2018, 06:16 AM
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Maybe because some some scouting agencies had him listed at 15?
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Maybe because some some scouting agencies had him listed at 15?
No different than this forum, some people have to be novel.

Mckenzie's Draft Ranking is considered the Bible of rankings because it is based on a compilation of NHL scouts' opinions/rankings of players. Here is what was said of Bouchard... "Bouchard was the very clear No. 5 prospect on the Draft Lottery edition rankings, a notable cut below the Big Four but also notably ahead of the rest of the draft class, including the three other defencemen who appear locked and loaded as Top 10 picks this year."


I'd be interested in seeing who had him ranked 15. Give a link.
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:34 AM
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Bouchard is 18 looking 28. Excited to see what he can do.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:40 AM
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Edmonton will set this kids career back a few years in developement.....just watch.
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I was worried that we would be subject to another one of Chiarelli's trades. Now fingers crossed that the coaching has improved so as to not kill this kid.
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No different than this forum, some people have to be novel.

Mckenzie's Draft Ranking is considered the Bible of rankings because it is based on a compilation of NHL scouts' opinions/rankings of players. Here is what was said of Bouchard... "Bouchard was the very clear No. 5 prospect on the Draft Lottery edition rankings, a notable cut below the Big Four but also notably ahead of the rest of the draft class, including the three other defencemen who appear locked and loaded as Top 10 picks this year."


I'd be interested in seeing who had him ranked 15. Give a link.
First ranking I looked at:

Sporting News

The Hockey Writers had him at 8:

Hockey Writers

As for your sure fire top 5, if you paid attention to what you wrote, "Bouchard was the very clear No. 5".... he wasn't at the time of the draft. Bob ranked him outside the top 5....

TSN

Maybe you got a good player, but I don't think its exceptionally good luck that a player with an average ranking of 10, from three separate rankings, was selected 10th overall.

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Old 06-23-2018, 10:27 AM
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Who did Calgary get in the first round, second round, third round fourth round?

What have they stocked their cupboards with for depth?


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First ranking I looked at:

Sporting News

The Hockey Writers had him at 8:

Hockey Writers

As for your sure fire top 5, if you paid attention to what you wrote, "Bouchard was the very clear No. 5".... he wasn't at the time of the draft. Bob ranked him outside the top 5....

TSN

Maybe you got a good player, but I don't think its exceptionally good luck that a player with an average ranking of 10, from three separate rankings, was selected 10th overall.
Your Sporting News ranking is laughable. They have Dahlin ranked #2.
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Old 06-23-2018, 11:02 AM
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Default Sure loving Calgary’s first round pick...,,

Ya...... real good choice there... real future potential..

Bwahahaha!

You Shames ..... next season will be a season of sorrow.

You got spoiled brats for forwards. You defense..... big underperformers.

Mighty Oil gonna dominate !!!!









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Old 06-23-2018, 11:32 AM
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Who did Calgary get in the first round, second round, third round fourth round?




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Noah Bodie...is going to be a special player for the flames for years to come .
some flames fans are claiming he's better then Mcdavid

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Old 06-23-2018, 11:46 AM
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Ya...... real good choice there... real future potential..

Bwahahaha!

You Shames ..... next season will be a season of sorrow.

You got spoiled brats for forwards. You defense..... big underperformers.

Mighty Oil gonna dominate !!!!



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Old 06-23-2018, 11:47 AM
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Ya...... real good choice there... real future potential..
Bwahahaha!
You Shames ..... next season will be a season of sorrow.
You got spoiled brats for forwards. You defense..... big underperformers.
Mighty Oil gonna dominate !!!!
Go Oil!
Now where have I heard that before??

Oh ya!

Last year!
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Old 06-23-2018, 11:50 AM
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Poor kid. Career is over before it started.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:05 PM
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LOL underperforming defensemen you say?? Like the guy you traded for the league mvp? How many top 10 picks and first overalls do you guys have to ruin to make it into the playoffs? What a dumpster fire of an organization.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:24 PM
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LOL underperforming defensemen you say?? Like the guy you traded for the league mvp? How many top 10 picks and first overalls do you guys have to ruin to make it into the playoffs? What a dumpster fire of an organization.
Ha!!! Takes one ya know one bub!

Cept our dumpster fire team dominated yours last season.

And we’z Gonna dominate you this season too!




Ooooooh baby!



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Vegas makes it to the final with a team of unprotected players and never had a draft pick ever.....so I guess the whole 'rebuild' by drafting theory is out the window.

The whole Flames / Oilers rivalry for exciting last place hockey is a disgusting dumpster fire, but at least not as bad as Ottawa....

I think I'm going to take up knitting by the fire, and skip hockey for the next decade.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:51 PM
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Your Sporting News ranking is laughable. They have Dahlin ranked #2.
So what? Its raining out. Stay on track. He dropped, at most, three spots on the highest ranking I've seen, and was placed tenth on all the rankings I've averaged, why are the Oilers so lucky to get a guy ranked 7th to 15th, at tenth?
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:51 PM
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I see Flames made a trade today, Hamilton, Ferland and Adam Fox to Carolina for Elias Linholm and Noah Hanafin. Got a much needed goal scorrer.
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Who did Calgary get in the first round, second round, third round fourth round?

What have they stocked their cupboards with for depth?


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No one, mainly because they haven't made their 4th round picks yet.

Tyler Parsons, Juuso Valimaki, Dillon Dube, Adam Fox, etc.

The draft isn't the end all be all. Wanna guess how many top ranked prospects the Oilers have?

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Old 06-23-2018, 01:11 PM
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I see Flames made a trade today, Hamilton, Ferland and Adam Fox to Carolina for Elias Linholm and Noah Hanafin. Got a much needed goal scorrer.
Hanifin had 10 goals last year and Linholm had 16. Hamilton had 17 as a d-man, not sure who the "much needed goal scorer" is in the deal.
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Old 06-23-2018, 01:12 PM
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No one, mainly because they haven't made their 4th round picks yet.

Tyler Parsons, Juuso Valimaki, Dillon Dube, Adam Fox, etc.

The draft isn't the end all be all. Wanna guess how many top ranked prospects the Oilers have?
1 down....... bye bye Adam Fox!
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Old 06-23-2018, 01:14 PM
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And you wanna tell me how trading your ‘elite defenseman’ hamilton And two other guys for Hanafin and Lindholm are a good deal...?


You guys look to be in a build for future mode.....

That’s IF Hamilton was the poison in the locker room like I’ve been hearing.


Shames had big locker room attitude problems last year. No doubt about it.



Typical Calgarians.... he he!
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No idea how these trades makes any sense... What the hell am I missing......
Did Dougie get his poop in a knot when they traded his brother?

I have 0% excitement over this.....
Almost a bit sick to my stomach.

BUT....I do like Calgary management. I like them a lot..
So what the hell do I know...

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And you wanna tell me how trading your ‘elite defenseman’ hamilton And two other guys for Hanafin and Lindhom are a good deal!
I'm not sure I can. I like Hanafin, not sure getting Lindholm is going to solve anything. Seems they could have gotten more for Hamilton and Fox.

Edit: The only way it makes any sense to me is if management thought Fox wasn't going to sign and Hanafin Lindholm haven't reached their potential. I'm a bit suspect due to their age, but hopefully Peters knows more than I.

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Old 06-23-2018, 01:40 PM
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Welcome to trading from a position of weakness.

Hall regrettably had to leave E-Town.

I suspect Johnny Hockey is a head case too.

Teams need to figure out how to mold young cocky players into nhl professionals.
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No idea how these trades makes any sense... What the hell am I missing......
Did Dougie get his poop in a knot when they traded his brother?

I have 0% excitement over this.....
Almost a bit sick to my stomach.

BUT....I do like Calgary management. I like them a lot..
So what the hell do I know...

Jamie
I'm also trying to wrap my head around it, makes no sense on the surface....cancer in the dressing room? Cap space? What??
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No idea how these trades makes any sense... What the hell am I missing......
Did Dougie get his poop in a knot when they traded his brother?

I have 0% excitement over this.....
Almost a bit sick to my stomach.

BUT....I do like Calgary management. I like them a lot..
So what the hell do I know...

Jamie
I'm not sure I like Calgary management? They've kept from overpaying their star players, maybe?

I wonder if this part of a three-way deal with the other parts TBA?
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