Safety and security and our freedoms

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I feel sorry for people that are this Jaded,horrible way to go through life.

What's so jaded and horrible about it? You think the Prime Minster will be attending my funeral or notice I'm gone? I sure don't, and I'm okay with that, wouldn't expect him to. You really think the Prime Minster has the entire nation's interest in mind when he makes decisions? I sure don't and feel his track record more than speaks to that fact. I don't think it's jaded at all, just honest, realistic observation.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Trochu

What's so jaded and horrible about it? You think the Prime Minster will be attending my funeral or notice I'm gone? I sure don't, and I'm okay with that, wouldn't expect him to. You really think the Prime Minster has the entire nation's interest in mind when he makes decisions? I sure don't and feel his track record more than speaks to that fact. I don't think it's jaded at all, just honest, realistic observation.

My opinion is that it is very jaded. He's incompetent yes, but he's not cold.

[pittman]

So what do you all think is actually going on here then? The government is using this as a ploy to steal your freedom? That no one actually cares who dies?

The reality is that we're faced with a virus that has the potential to kill about 1% of the population. This number can increase if the health care system is swamped as the resources won't be available to care for the ones that could have been saved.

That is the only thing any one in politics is working on right now. That 1% is likely your parents, grandparents, or maybe you if you have high blood pressure, smoke, or are overweight.

If they're not working for YOU right now, who are they working for?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by pittman

So what do you all think is actually going on here then? The government is using this as a ploy to steal your freedom? That no one actually cares who dies?

The reality is that we're faced with a virus that has the potential to kill about 1% of the population. This number can increase if the health care system is swamped as the resources won't be available to care for the ones that could have been saved.

That is the only thing any one in politics is working on right now. That 1% is likely your parents, grandparents, or maybe you if you have high blood pressure, smoke, or are overweight.

If they're not working for YOU right now, who are they working for?

I believe that in most cases, you are correct in that the priority is protecting the citizens from this virus, but I also believe that certain people , including our PM are using this crisis to pursue a personal agenda.

[pittman]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I believe that in most cases, you are correct in that the priority is protecting the citizens from this virus, but I also believe that certain people , including our PM are using this crisis to pursue a personal agenda.

Such as?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by pittman

Such as?

Such as the liberals proposing a bill that would give them the right to bypass parliament, to do whatever they please concerning spending and taxation until the end of 2021. They didn't get away with it, but they used the crisis to try.

[WillyOneStyle]

Originally Posted by Lamburt

Our ancestors gave up their lives fighting for freedom. We give up our freedom hoping the government will keep us safe from a bad flu.

The writing is on the wall. Our way of life is changing and we won't be going back, at least not without a bloody war.

Well this thread became an interesting read...

I thought it was interesting that the thread went in a new direction after this post because it included the phrase "The Writing Is on The Wall"

The phrase originates in the book of Danial. As it goes, the King of Babylon, Belshazzar, was having a feast and wanted to drink from the finest vessels. He ordered the sacred hebrew vessels that he'd looted be brought to him and they drank from them. A ghostly hand appeared and wrote a message on the wall: Number Number Weight Division.

No one could understand the message so the prophet Danial was brought in to interpret. He explained that the message meant that the Kingdom was about to fall because they had disgraced God. That night Belshazzar was slain and the kingdom overthrown by Darius The Mede.

There is some historical accuracy here as Cyrus the great and his successors (like Darius) did indeed battle and over throw all of the kingdoms from Egypt to Aisia, creating the Persian Empire.

Lots of good movies about these events, 300, etc.

[igorot]

Originally Posted by RandyBoBandy

I swear to gawd, there are new(returning banned camp) and mothballed "members" posting these days

Nope there are no body outside so blocking the train track is out

Its time to recruit new member and he also brought some of his buddies to stir the pot

Same as everybody else they have to have activities in order for the funding to keep coming