Masks Mandatory In ALL Indoor Public Places In Edmonton

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

In the case of the Edmonton and Calgary mayors, I often wonder of they listen to anyone else. Both seem as clueless as our PM.

both oilers and flames fans....clueless.... and then there is the turd a sens fan

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by bessiedog

A few questions for the no wearers:

1 dr Henshaw just started today that masks are an important part of protection ..... why would she say this? Should she Blink twice if she’s being held hostage by the socialist government.??


2. Is the UPC government socialist?? Is it massively wasting our tax dollars on purchasing free masks for Albertans? Are McDonalds, A&W and (dare I say it) Tim’s all in league with this socialist agenda??

Who are the ‘Berta leaders that are in league with this Bill Gatetz led global communist cabal..?

And..... I gotta know.... WHY would our Alberta provincial and municipal leaders do this to us...? What’s the rights infringing end game goal here.....?

Please....?

This is what I don't get. All the conspiracy theorists...just what does the evil government stand to win by 'making' us all wear masks.
Power?
Untold wealth?
Admission into the secret cabal (shades of John Wick)?
Oh wait....maybe they just want to try and save lives.
Darn them!!!

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

This is what I don't get. All the conspiracy theorists...just what does the evil government stand to win by 'making' us all wear masks.
Power?
Untold wealth?
Admission into the secret cabal (shades of John Wick)?
Oh wait....maybe they just want to try and save lives.
Darn them!!!

Sure , the government just wants to save lives, the same reason that they implemented the firearms ban.

[sk270]

[QUOTE=CBintheNorth;4210820]I was implying that, and now I'll say nice and clear. They are useless.

I don't need to site articles written by nobodies.
QUOTE]

Of course, if eminent researchers who publish in reputable journals can be dismissed as "nobodies" then there is no arguing with you.

If I understand you correctly, you prefer to decide scientific and medical matters based on your personal observations rather than large bodies of data or controlled experiments. Since this is a free country, you are entitled to do so but please wear your mask where it is required.

[tri777]

Imagine after all the heaviness is lifted from us, china just releases Covid29,
rinse repeat..sneaky foxes in hen house.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

This is what I don't get. All the conspiracy theorists...just what does the evil government stand to win by 'making' us all wear masks.
Power?
Untold wealth?
Admission into the secret cabal (shades of John Wick)?

Lots of benefits - for one, driving us apart. This thread is a great example of how polarized we can become over an issue.

Breakdown of social constructs - instinctively, we don't trust someone who covers their face. For example, I have some video of a thief who flipped up his hoodie just before he stole my relative's bicycle.

Add to that, we rely in visual facial cues in order to interact and bond as a society. Watch what happens if we are still wearing masks six months to a year from now. The changes may be subtle, but it's chipping away at our unity.

This gives the government power because we are not united, and becoming less so every day.

[Walleyedude]

Originally Posted by bessiedog

I’ll agree with you on the A&W point.


Beyond meat is beyond reason by my estimate.


Walleyedude:

Thanks, I think u and I are almost on the same page n stuff

I didn’t try to confuse dr Henshaws recommendation with mandatory wearing endorsement...... but the logic here from her is..... it helps... so we should all do it.... perhaps we all should...? Where there is no possibility of 2m distancing?

No, you didn't, your logic is generally really sound and I agree, I think we're pretty much on the same page.

It's quite likely that wearing a mask is helpful, and yeah, perhaps we all should, but there's a lot of things that perhaps we should all be doing that are not mandatory.

The problem is, many here do confuse those notions and don't make the distinction, or even worse, make the distinction but don't care. They hear that "masks are good" and their first reaction is to want to make a law so that everybody has to wear one. I think elkhunter hit the nail on the head a few posts up when he made the analogy to banning guns. It's the same mindset behind both actions.

[CMichaud]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

I maintain, keep your distance from people, wash your hands often, try not to touch your face, stay home if your sick, and wear a mask if it makes you feel better.
That's where this lunacy should have ended, but no.

Remember at the beginning of this when the only thing we were trying to do was not overwhelm the hospitals?...I really miss those days.

Agree. Interestingly Dr Hinshaw was wearing a mask at the briefing today.

Infection rate is approx 1.3% provincially.

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Sure , the government just wants to save lives, the same reason that they implemented the firearms ban.

Your actually comparing the firearms ban, which takes away our property and the ability to pursue outdoors activities and means of protection with having to HORRORS wear a mask for the 1/2 hour a day that the majority of us are in public spaces.
Ridiculous.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by tri777

My my, how fast we brushed over the "I have couple of masks in vech" part..tell how long you have been using
these couple masks, how many times a day are they being used BEFORE disposal, or have you
been using them secretly for 2-3weeks?

So far I have been doing everything your doing except for the mask wearing ritual thing..

I’m not exactly sure why I am even engaging with you but here is my routine . My wife and I have several masks that we cycle through and wash them and re use . Yes they are home made by my wife and they fit much better than the cheap throw away medical masks. I do keep a couple in the truck in case I need to go into a store but I rarely am in said store for more than 10 min. I get what I need and go. If I am in a public space more than 3 times a week that’s an oddity.

When I go into the Cross for an appointment they won’t let me in without a mask because there are vulnerable people there.
We have no idea who around us is vulnerable in other places so it’s just common sense to look out for your fellow citizen. Be your brothers keeper so to speak.

The mask is there to protect others from me not the other way around. If I cough or sneeze I am wearing a mask so that those droplets don’t spread around or land on shelves or merchandise. Pretty ingenious little nothing piece of gear really.


I don’t expect to win you over on this subject.

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

Your actually comparing the firearms ban, which takes away our property and the ability to pursue outdoors activities and means of protection with having to HORRORS wear a mask for the 1/2 hour a day that the majority of us are in public spaces.
Ridiculous.

That’s not how I read it.

To me it read that the government feels justified doing anything as long as they can say, “if we save just one life...”

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by bessiedog

I’ll agree with you on the A&W point.


Beyond meat is beyond reason by my estimate.

I’m a little off topic here but just for the humorous side I must elaborate more. I began calling them SJ&W when they were trying to brainwash people into thinking the average beef cow was injected with 8 times their market-value of antibiotics minutes before it entered the food chain.

Beyond meat was years later. 😀

[tri777]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

"..here is my routine. My wife and I have several masks that we cycle through and wash them and re use .
Yes they are home made by my wife and they fit much better than the cheap throw away medical masks.
I do keep a couple in the truck in case I need to go into a store but I rarely am in said store for more than
10 min. I get what I need and go. If I am in a public space more than 3 times a week that’s an oddity.

When I go into the Cross for an appointment they won’t let me in without a mask because there are
vulnerable people there. We have no idea who around us is vulnerable in other places so it’s just common
sense to look out for your fellow citizen. Be your brothers keeper so to speak.

The mask is there to protect others from me not the other way around. If I cough or sneeze I am wearing
a mask so that those droplets don’t spread around or land on shelves or merchandise. Pretty ingenious
little nothing piece of gear really."

Appreciate that JB, Thanks!
Any other mask wearer's care to share your routine's also?

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by sk270

Of course, if eminent researchers who publish in reputable journals can be dismissed as "nobodies" then there is no arguing with you.

If I understand you correctly, you prefer to decide scientific and medical matters based on your personal observations rather than large bodies of data or controlled experiments. Since this is a free country, you are entitled to do so but please wear your mask where it is required.

Please don't get cynical with me.

I'm going to try and be a little more clear with my message.
I stated that the top doctor in Alberta and the top doctor in Canada don't feel I need to make masks mandatory at this time. They are basing these decisions on the best information that they have available at this time.

Yourself, a few on here, and 9 councilman feel that they should be mandatory due to public outcry and random articles found on Google.

Now I will also state that I believe the two top doctors I listed will succumb to public pressure and make masks mandatory, but it won't be for the greater good.

I'll give you one more real life experience (which you seem to not give any weight to):
Of the 278 Active cases in Edmonton a few days ago, 72 were in one facility which was on lockdown and had been on lock down since the middle of March. A facility where residents were forced to wear masks anytime out of their room, and staff (who again were trained in proper use of their PPE) were forced to wear masks 24/7.
The outbreak came after the mask rule was put in.

But you go ahead and post another article from someone who you can't even confirm exists in real life.

On second thought, you're right. There is no point in arguing with me.

[mooseknuckle]

Wife has been making these masks for a month, sells them at the bar she works at. She has sold just over 300 of them in the last few weeks. $10 each, the extra income is nice!!

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[Scott h]

Originally Posted by tri777

Appreciate that JB, Thanks!
Any other mask wearer's care to share your routine's also?

I keep a few in my center console of my truck. Put one on if I go into a store or shop. My wife gave me two baggies, clean and dirty. It takes a few minutes to wash them at the end of the day. I don't wear them when I drive, walk the dog, or do yard work. I talk with people outside without them, but I keep a respectable distance. It's all pretty easy and painless, but then again I've never been that delicate.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by mooseknuckle

Wife has been making these masks for a month, sells them at the bar she works at. She has sold just over 300 of them in the last few weeks. $10 each, the extra income is nice!!

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Smart girl !!!

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Scott h

Smart girl !!!

You thinking outside the box....Imagine that....see a people's need and fulfill it while earning some income

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by bessiedog

I’ll agree with you on the A&W point.


Beyond meat is beyond reason by my estimate.


Walleyedude:

Thanks, I think u and I are almost on the same page n stuff

I didn’t try to confuse dr Henshaws recommendation with mandatory wearing endorsement...... but the logic here from her is..... it helps... so we should all do it.... perhaps we all should...? Where there is no possibility of 2m distancing?

Good grief. A&W is out to make a buck, their Beyond Beef is a big seller. They are filling a want, not yours, so what. They are out to make a buck just like anyone else.

[HVA7mm]

Originally Posted by mooseknuckle

Wife has been making these masks for a month, sells them at the bar she works at. She has sold just over 300 of them in the last few weeks. $10 each, the extra income is nice!!

Sent from my SM-G975W using Tapatalk

Your house is full of entrepreneurs.

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

That’s not how I read it.

To me it read that the government feels justified doing anything as long as they can say, “if we save just one life...”

So your opinion would be the same if the ‘one’ person it saved was your spouse or your child?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

Your actually comparing the firearms ban, which takes away our property and the ability to pursue outdoors activities and means of protection with having to HORRORS wear a mask for the 1/2 hour a day that the majority of us are in public spaces.
Ridiculous.

The point is that in both cases, the government claims the reasoning is to protect the public.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

So your opinion would be the same if the ‘one’ person it saved was your spouse or your child?

What if the one life the firearms ban saved was your spouse or your child?

[Davey Boy]

Wow I guess if masks are no good in controlling the spread of disease, then all of our hospitals and such could save a lot of money by not having Doctors and nurses wear them.......if they don't work of course.

If you don't like wearing a mask you really won't like wearing a ventilator.

[Smokey]

Originally Posted by Buckhead

Well said.

I will continue to wear a surgical or N95 mask and surgical gloves.
I am not going to make myself or anyone else ill if I can help it.
Some people have a larger portion of personal ethics and integrity than others.
Period.

Please

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by bobtodrick

So your opinion would be the same if the ‘one’ person it saved was your spouse or your child?

Yes it would be the same. I think people need to think of what’s best for mankind and not myself. Why is every single individuals needs more important than every other persons? People need to start looking at the bigger picture.

[ESOXangler]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

Yes it would be the same. I think people need to think of what’s best for mankind and not myself. Why is every single individuals needs more important than every other persons? People need to start looking at the bigger picture.

Any chance you live alone?

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

Yes it would be the same. I think people need to think of what’s best for mankind and not myself. Why is every single individuals needs more important than every other persons? People need to start looking at the bigger picture.

So if I understand you correctly, what you are saying is kwpiud udfbu rb ufy vveif icgoeni fco jedn jfveci enfce oin.....at least that what it sounds like to me.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

That’s not how I read it.

To me it read that the government feels justified doing anything as long as they can say, “if we save just one life...”

And that was my point. Some people defend government regulations, because the government claims that they implement the regulations for the safety of the public . Yet when those people don't like the particular regulation, the excuse that is is for the safety of the people is no longer valid to them.

[sk270]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

Please don't get cynical with me.

Yourself, a few on here, and 9 councilman feel that they should be mandatory due to public outcry and random articles found on Google.

But you go ahead and post another article from someone who you can't even confirm exists in real life.

On second thought, you're right. There is no point in arguing with me.

I certainly won't argue with you. By the way, those articles are far from random.

However, you are the cynical one. You are suggesting that the Lancet, British Medical Journal, Journal of the American Medical Society, New England Journal of Medicine are mythical publications being written by people who don't exist. In your earlier post, you referred to them as "nobodies".

If you think that the existence of these researchers and the journals in which they publish require some sort of objective confirmation, you are operating in a world which I cannot imagine.