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Old 02-21-2019, 03:47 PM
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I can’t talk a person out of a .30-06, doing so would be considered heresy.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:50 PM
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Sure, buy a 6.5 Creedmoor - you’re welcome!
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:57 PM
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Sure, buy a 6.5 Creedmoor - you’re welcome!
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Beat me to it...

Seriously flip a coin...165gr bullets and up, the 30-06 has a bit of an edge but not much, 165 gr. bullets in the .308 don't eat up to much case capacity, anything heavier does.... personally buy a nice 6.5x55, classic been around longer then the 06 and is plenty for any and all North American game.
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:04 PM
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Considered it. Love the ballistics.

Not in the running though. Because reasons.
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:24 PM
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Here's my take.
30-06 great all rounder, does best with 24" or longer barrel. Higher recoil level. Round per round slightly more expensive. The 30-06 has no real world advantage over 308 as a game getter other than more factory loads available. ( but you handload so...)
308 great all rounder, does well with barrels from 16-24". Making it possibly shorter/ lighter. Less recoil. Less cost per round. Completely capable.

Get the one you want and go hunting.
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:28 PM
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Usually the question I ask is do you shoot or carry your rifle more? But that’s already answered- you sold the 308 because it’s too heavy...why would you want a ‘06??? Longer action, longer barrel, more recoil, more expense for new reloading stuff - sure doesn’t seem to line up with your goals. Since you’ve discovered mono metals you know they equal or better the heavy for cal lead bullets, at hunting ranges anyway.

Just get a lighter 308 and go hunting.
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:36 PM
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I will support 30-06.
Have 3 of those. All shooting same load of IMR4350 under 150gr Barnes TTSX.
One load for all Deer, Elk , Moose, Bear.
My youngest son shot MD Doe at 428 meters with this load.
I've shot large Bull Moose DRT at 100 y or so.
Friend visiting from Poland shot his bull Elk with same rifle and cartridge.

One load for all and if you can find store selling only couple of rounds one will be 30-06.

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Old 02-21-2019, 05:14 PM
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I own and shoot both.

My return to the rifle sports of hunting and long range shooting started with a 30/06,,, the only reason at the time was to own 1 rifle for everything,,, well it didn't happen """yet""". LOL

A Good friend of mine got me into F Class shooting,,, now that put a kink in the draw-works since I needed a 308 to blend into the F class of FTR.

Dam,,, back to 2 rifles,,, let's see,,, what's my options now... I know,,, I bought another sporter 308 to blend in with my F Class rig,,, so my Ought-6 days are winding down. Not because I don't enjoy it,,, its more to do with my less is more program. LOL

Yuppers,,, the new plan is own two rifles in the same caliber & cartridge so I can follow the ballistics game,,, keeping everything the same. Or as close as possible.

Separate cases for each of them,,, then try to match the ft-per seconds,,, the same everything...

The only person that gets to decide what works for you is you,,, that's what really counts.

I don't see any difference between either of those cartrages less a few ft-per seconds as you mentioned.

The old school cartridges aren't the sharpest pencils in the pack,,, nor are they the weakest.

Both are fun to shoot like all the others out there,,, my plan was to own 1,,, it didn't pan out,,, so I decided to own 2 rifles that shoot the same case.

1 for long distance fun stuff,,, the other for hunting and general plinking. Both worlds with 1 style of cartridge.

Good luck going forward with your plan,,, that's part of the fun to good times.

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Old 02-21-2019, 05:21 PM
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Usually the question I ask is do you shoot or carry your rifle more? But that’s already answered- you sold the 308 because it’s too heavy...why would you want a ‘06??? Longer action, longer barrel, more recoil, more expense for new reloading stuff - sure doesn’t seem to line up with your goals. Since you’ve discovered mono metals you know they equal or better the heavy for cal lead bullets, at hunting ranges anyway.

Just get a lighter 308 and go hunting.
Yeah. By "too heavy" I mean 11 or 12 lbs. easily. It was a heavy 26" barrel Savage and after I swapped out the tuperware stock with something stiffer (i.e. heavier) to give it a hair of balance it was a tank. To be fair, I bought it as a range gun that I could hunt with. It was very effective but horrible to bushwhack with it. I'm not usually too fussy about weight but it was beyond reasonable.

Same rifle model 308 to 30-06 isn't a significant weight difference in my mind (although I'm certainly aware it exists)
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:29 PM
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But, the question is...

Do you need a 30-06 for slugs or will a .308 work?
3006 will add 20 yards to a 308 trajectory.... Thats about the difference
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:39 PM
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Both will kill up to 250 very effectively. If you aren't reloading find a good deal on either and don't look back.

Clean kill Up to 250

Really yah think ??? Duh

I've killed many moose and elk out past 400 with '06 , bang flop !

Deer at that distance easy meat,,,

Yes the '06 and .308 do all the same things,

Still the 2 top selling calibers, lots of factory loadings, even in remote locations when unexpected there arises need for spontaneous ammo purchase
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:08 PM
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The problem I have with the thirty odd six is well, it’s just to dam universal, it kind of eliminates the need to own any other rifles.
LOL....this

Admittedly I’m a bit biased having hunted with the 06 since I was a teen 30 sum odd years now.
Yes the 06 is often touted as “more versatile” but how much versatility does one really need,especially with today’s bullets.I use a 165 GMX as my all around/go-to deer/elk load and wouldn’t hesitate to hunt moose with same.

It would be a real coin toss for me now 35 years later,knowing what I know now about bullets,ballistics,barrel lengths etc vs a 17yo kid that was told the 06 was a better moose rifle....in fact I might even lean a bit more towards the .308 for a shorter barreled,slightly more recoil friendly bush rifle?
It barely makes a fart in the wind worth of difference performance wise,I think I would just shop around for “the rifle” that speaks to me/jumps off the rack at me/just feels right and not worry too much if it’s chambered in one or the other
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:52 PM
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Yup its started with a 3006, then 308, then 6.5, then 2506 then 338, then 3855, then 444, then 223. Won't mention how many 22's I have. Madness I say. Self proclaimed addict.
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:53 PM
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Clean kill Up to 250

Really yah think ??? Duh

I've killed many moose and elk out past 400 with '06 , bang flop !

Deer at that distance easy meat,,,

Yes the '06 and .308 do all the same things,

Still the 2 top selling calibers, lots of factory loadings, even in remote locations when unexpected there arises need for spontaneous ammo purchase
He said he only shoots to 250 so why talk longer distances when it’s not a requirement. Either will easily work. .
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:14 PM
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Id go 30-06 just because youve had a 308 already why not try something else other than that the main advantage would be shooting heavier bullets
And then step it up to a 338-06.....just because.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:37 PM
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I have personally found the 06 is to much gun for deer. For your purposes maybe consider something lighter like 6.5x55.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:39 PM
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At 250 yards on deer it makes no difference. I'd go 308 just for lighter recoil.

You may wish to give the 270 a second look.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:40 PM
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And then step it up to a 338-06.....just because.
Absolutely i loved the 338-06 i had its a great cartridge I was trying to stick to the op’s choices tho lol
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:53 PM
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I’m in a similar situation. I have a lot of .308 brass I’ve picked up from qualifications at work. I have more .308 ammo that we were told not to use but is perfectly fine 180gr federal blue box. I absolutely LOVE the 06 but with everything I have I’m leaning towards the 308 mainly from an economic standpoint. My suppressor will work on both rifles so that doesn’t affect my decision. I’ll orobably end up with a .308 as I have everything to reload except the bullets and dies which I can can borrow from my father in law. I say find a rifle you like that fits and is what you really want then see which caliber it comes in. If it’s both your screwed but if it’s only a short or long action it may help make your decision easier.
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I know an old fella that is thinkng hard on retiring from hunting, and he has a gorgeous TIKKA that he wants to sell
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:42 AM
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I favour 30-06 - but in real terms there is no substantial difference with the right hunting bullet.
Focus on finding the rifle you want to carry for a lot of years, and then buy either chambering.
I think highly of .280 Remington too, but the 30-06 Ruger in my gun safe has killed more game.
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:10 AM
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Absolutely i loved the 338-06 i had its a great cartridge I was trying to stick to the op’s choices tho lol
Well he/she slides into an -06 then steps it up.....
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:12 AM
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I’m in a similar situation. I have a lot of .308 brass I’ve picked up from qualifications at work. I have more .308 ammo that we were told not to use but is perfectly fine 180gr federal blue box. I absolutely LOVE the 06 but with everything I have I’m leaning towards the 308 mainly from an economic standpoint. My suppressor will work on both rifles so that doesn’t affect my decision. I’ll orobably end up with a .308 as I have everything to reload except the bullets and dies which I can can borrow from my father in law. I say find a rifle you like that fits and is what you really want then see which caliber it comes in. If it’s both your screwed but if it’s only a short or long action it may help make your decision easier.
Wish we could screw on a can too....
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:10 AM
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But, the question is...

Do you need a 30-06 for slugs or will a .308 work?
It’s all about bullet placement or you could get a 6.5 creedmore . I know because I stayed at a holiday inn last nite.
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Only a stupid person would talk anyone out of a 30-06. Buy it and be happy.
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I have personally found the 06 is to much gun for deer.
Typed and deleted a lot of responses to this!

If you want something to cover coyotes to moose it’s hard to beat an ‘06.
My handload recipe is to grab a box of 168gr Barnes ttsx and hand it to the guy at the counter.
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Typed and deleted a lot of responses to this!

If you want something to cover coyotes to moose it’s hard to beat an ‘06.
My handload recipe is to grab a box of 168gr Barnes ttsx and hand it to the guy at the counter.
There is no response to that comment. lol
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Which is better?? Flip a coin. You'll get as accurate an answer as any forum...
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:15 PM
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He said he only shoots to 250 so why talk longer distances when it’s not a requirement. Either will easily work. .
As long as he passes up everything past 250 ,,,, because there IS such a big difference between 250 and 300
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Nobody said there was a difference... Just said both would work for the parameters he laid out. Go start another thread if you want to argue about hypothetical situations and maximum limitations.
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