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Old 02-21-2019, 03:13 PM
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Never found the 10/22 to be overly accurate and the ones ive had and used were fussy with cycling ammo i much prefer the rem 597 better accuracy and feeds anything i feed it including subsonics
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:15 PM
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Does bass or cabelas carry them in Calgary ? I’d prefer a bolt honestly
I am not positive to be honest as I usually purchase everything second hand. Looks like Cabelas has all three from their website. Proline also has the CZ for sure but not sure on the others.
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:53 PM
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For the price point, and comparing semis to semis - the 10/22 is accurate, reliable and fun to shoot.

Sure if you want a tack driver get a bolt, or maybe anti up and buy a Volquartsen - but for what it is, it's an outstanding gun.

I have, and have owned lots off 22's and always have a few 10/22's in the locker ... they are great
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For the price point, and comparing semis to semis - the 10/22 is accurate, reliable and fun to shoot.

Sure if you want a tack driver get a bolt, or maybe anti up and buy a Volquartsen - but for what it is, it's an outstanding gun.

I have, and have owned lots off 22's and always have a few 10/22's in the locker ... they are great
Yup I have 2. Standard wood model and a stainless one with a plastic stock. Good enough for me. Got a few other 22's.
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That’s crazy, you still have it kicking around ?
1990.....many game taken....great little rifle.....many upgrades available...can't go wrong.
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:34 PM
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They can be fairly accurate with some work.
This one like Federal automatch



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Old 02-21-2019, 07:36 PM
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I am not positive to be honest as I usually purchase everything second hand. Looks like Cabelas has all three from their website. Proline also has the CZ for sure but not sure on the others.
I’ll half to make a trip up there one weekend and take a look around
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:37 PM
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Never found the 10/22 to be overly accurate and the ones ive had and used were fussy with cycling ammo i much prefer the rem 597 better accuracy and feeds anything i feed it including subsonics
Is that rem a semi auto as well?
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:40 PM
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I've owned a 1022 since 1976. Since then I've owned at least 50 . Currently own 11 , some uncommon, some collectably, some customized. They are the Gold Standard of semi auto 22's.
I've also owned 10 CZ 452,453 and 455 Bolt Actions. I own zero CZ rimfires.

I do own a Cooper and a Anschutz 22 rimfire.

IF you like to mix Apple's and Oranges talk about 1022's and CZ bolt actions.

A more valid comparison is a 1022 to a Marlin 795..


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I’m looking at a marlin bolt action right now I’m not sure if I’m a big fan of semi autos. The marlin bolts sound like a pretty reliable unit
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:46 PM
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I have had my 10-22 for at least 30 years. It has the metal trigger group. Accuracy has always been sort of meh. It feeds round nose stuff happily but can be fussy with truncated cone bullets.

The CZ bolt is greatl but may stretch your budget.

I have an Anschutz 1416 that never leaves the safe anymore although it is crazy accurate. My go hunting 22 is a cheapo Savage MKII which is also crazy accurate, has a very good trigger, and I don't mind beating it up. Think I paid about $200 beans for the Savage...and it is way way more accurate than the Ruger has ever been. Nope, it is no Anschutz for smoothness but is very nearly as accurate. By the way this is the wood stocked version. The synthetic stocks are shaped all wrong for scope use.

It is a great shooter for the money.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:47 PM
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I have a couple of 10/22s and I agree they are a fun gun. My last one is a stainless heavy barrel and it would put 5 into 1/2 to 3/4" at 50 yards with the right ammo.
I thought I would be Santa Claus for myself a few years ago and bought a Cooper. Very accurate but not near as much fun as the 10/22.
If I could find a 10/22 clone that was as accurate as my Cooper or even close, I might buy another
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:35 PM
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Is that rem a semi auto as well?
Yes it is mines the vtr and i also have the 597magnum in 22wmr
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:59 AM
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My experience confirms what Coiloil37 stated. I have owned 2 10/22's and even customed one up quite a bit and they are fun to shoot but not overly accurate, 10 shots within a twoonie at 25 yds after trying 10 different types of ammo and finding the best. I sold both of mine and bought the cheapest Savage MkII F I believe bolt action rifle with heavy barrel, Approx $225. After trying 4 different types of ammo I can now shoot 10 shots at 25 yds to be covered by a dime and the worst ammo can be covered with the Twoonie.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:38 PM
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I don't get, and never have gotten the appeal of 10/22s. Perhaps that's because I don't want to pay over $300 for a fixer-upper that is NIB. I'm half kidding, but having owned a new one and shot countless others, I'll take a strong pass. The only ones that impressed me probably cost over $1,200+ to put together...but were barely Rugers anymore. (upgraded barrel, trigger group, stock, charging handle, etc) I've never shot one, but Thompson came out with a 10/22 clone that appears to be an upgraded gun in lots of ways. Called a T/C R22. Might be worth a look, they're well reviewed...and around $500 Canadian. (I've yet to see one in the flesh)

Bolt guns are where it's at, I'm a big proponent of CZ (452/453-nothing that has followed) and Anschutz...but most new shooters would be well served by a Savage B22, Ruger American, etc. Better triggers, more accurate, easier to strip/clean, etc. If your blow-back 22 gets dirty/waxy (and it will) and actually stops running, you'll need some tools with you. I've cleaned semis on the tailgate of my truck (Reluctantly)=no thanks. They have their place, fun to see brass flying...but if you're setting out to actually get some serious results, you'll want a bolt gun. Just my opinion.
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:50 PM
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I had a 10/22 for part of one summer. Very poor quality. Wood stock looked like a grade 8 class was learning woodcraft. Trigger was poor and did not shoot very well. Went through a few different ones and now have a CZ 455.. Great gun and accurate.
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:26 PM
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We run a half a dozen different .22s out in this patch, but the most accurate one I’ve ever seen is my buddies old beat up Savage Mark 2 FV (heavy barrel) bolt action that rattles around in his tractor. I cleaned it up for him once and it put down a couple .25” groups at 40 yards with cheap American Eagle hollow points. If the day ever comes when people quit giving me .22s, I’m gonna buy a Savage Mk2.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:38 PM
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If you want a semi auto, hard to go wrong with a 10/22. So much aftermarket...the only problem is before you know it, you have $500 in modifications to a $330 gun.

For a bolt, I would probably go CZ452. I have a Savage MKII FV-SR in a boyd's stock, and i've been pretty unimpressed. It particularly dislikes CCI\Blazer. (failure to extract , seems to have a weak extractor from the factory?) General fit and finish isn't great, should have bought a CZ
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Old 02-23-2019, 07:15 AM
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If you're concerned about 22lr accuracy, a good bolt gun is the way to go. I'd say most everyone here would agree. I have a Rem 597 and a 10/22. A semi auto is just plain fun. The Ruger isn't pretty but has a better magazine system that makes it more reliable than the 597. I put a Volquartsen hammer in the Remmy which lightens up the trigger pull and makes it much more dependable but the magazine is still not as good as the Ruger's. The 10/22 has a terrible trigger (6-7 lbs.) A Volquartsen hammer would fix that but they're nearly $150. The two are comparable, accuracy-wise.
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Old 02-23-2019, 08:41 AM
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Has anyone shot the takedown?
We have a 50 year anniversary take down in stainless synthetic. It came with a neat little backpack and the scope mounts to the barreled action so it seems to hold a decent zero. The takedown belongs to the boss and I have a 10/22 also. They are both responsible for exterminating lots of gophers. They both have the nikon p-rimfire scope and seem to be decently accurate.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:46 AM
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I have had them, regular and heavy barrel. The regular was super fussy for some reason. I cleaned fastidiously and tried numerous ammo. Not very accurate either. My son, when he was 12, took his birthday money and bought a Marlin with a scope. Dang thing is very accurate with cheap ammo and never jams. Go figure.

As many have stated, go CZ and be happy forever.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:53 AM
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The magazine debacle would be the main reason i wouldn’t consider a 10/22 if that gets sorted out id consider trying another but no need when I can run 30rd mags and shoot any ammo i want in my 597
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:34 PM
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I have a 10/22. It was my first rifle. I also have two CZ 452s which I love. I never shoot the Ruger anymore, and I've been meaning to post it for sale on here. Mine is reasonably accurate (although not as accurate as either CZ), and actually very reliable. But to me it feels like a toy. There's a lot of plastic on them. Besides that, I don't really understand the appeal of semi-auto rifles. They have a lot more working parts to get dirty, they're a lot harder to work on if you have a problem in the field, and there's also the chance of having a case failure with cheap ammo, or something like that, and getting bits of burning powder and stuff on your arm/face (I've read accounts of this happening with 10/22s). And as others have said, for practice, bolt actions are better, since they force you to slow down a bit and be a little more methodical. Definitely would recommend a CZ or Savage bolt action instead.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:02 AM
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I considered a 10/22 but ended up buying a marlin 795 and a couple 25 round magazines, can't imagine finding a more accurate fun plinker for $219.

Like many have said the CZ 452 is a great rifle as well, I finally caved in and bought a lefty last summer before they disappear.
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Before I go buy a .22 just curious what you guys think about the ruger 10/22 I haven’t really heard anything bad. But I’m on the line if I shall just buy a .22 or 22-250 more less something to shoot small game.
Buy the Ruger 10/22, its awesome. .22 LR ammo is cheap, fun to shoot, and shooting it will reinforce good technique (if good technique is practiced). I feel like this rimfire rifle is about $350-$400.

A 22-250 isn't even in the same class. While a good coyote rifle, you'll vaporize "small game" with this, at about $3/round too. One of these centerfire rifles is probably twice the price of the Ruger you've mentioned, plus you'll need a scope etc.
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Buy the Ruger 10/22, its awesome. .22 LR ammo is cheap, fun to shoot, and shooting it will reinforce good technique (if good technique is practiced). I feel like this rimfire rifle is about $350-$400.

A 22-250 isn't even in the same class. While a good coyote rifle, you'll vaporize "small game" with this, at about $3/round too. One of these centerfire rifles is probably twice the price of the Ruger you've mentioned, plus you'll need a scope etc.
You can get some good shooting, accurate 22-250 for about $1.50 a round. Like anything else, the sky is the limit but you can get good ammo for half of what you have stated.

The other stuff you said, I agree with.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:21 AM
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I'm sticking with the 22 rimfire. Pennys per shot is well with in the budget.

Buy the frugal ammo and enjoy the goods times.

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One word to describe any semi auto .22.....plinkers.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:14 PM
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Since the OP lives in the heart of gopher country, any larger capacity semi .22 LR is tops for knocking down gophers fast and cheap within 75 yards. For longer shots, a bolt gun like the cz452 is better, but join a group shooting 10/22's and you'll probably be a little jealous.

So that's the first thing to get. At that point you can choose anything out there, from a Norinco JW-20 tube feed for $180ish, Marlin 60 clip or Marlin 795 tube feed for $200ish, Mossberg 151/152 for maybe $225, (no mention of the cooey/savage 64 jammomatic with the crappy mags at any price), on up to more accurate guns like the T/C 55, maybe even a remington 597 (if you get a good one, never had one myself). The brno/cz .22 semi is awesome for accuracy when you get into the bigger price category.

And so there's the 10/22. Pretty costly, but properly tuned, modded and running large cap mags, it works great. There are folks that have up to $2000 into a single gun, but you can do it for around $600, or perhaps $500 if you find a used one. You will want a trigger job and an aftermarket barrel (green mountain sporter ftw). That's before you add the scope btw.

Really I suggest getting both a bolt .22 and a semi and see which you prefer.
The cz 452 and older brnos are generally excellent shooters, and excel at more precision shooting, like grouse head shots already mentioned.
And if the sky's the limit, consider going straight into Anschutz country for a model 54 bolt action .22 ($1000 plus). Those are beautifully made guns.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:43 PM
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Since the OP lives in the heart of gopher country, any larger capacity semi .22 LR is tops for knocking down gophers fast and cheap within 75 yards. For longer shots, a bolt gun like the cz452 is better, but join a group shooting 10/22's and you'll probably be a little jealous.

So that's the first thing to get. At that point you can choose anything out there, from a Norinco JW-20 tube feed for $180ish, Marlin 60 clip or Marlin 795 tube feed for $200ish, Mossberg 151/152 for maybe $225, (no mention of the cooey/savage 64 jammomatic with the crappy mags at any price), on up to more accurate guns like the T/C 55, maybe even a remington 597 (if you get a good one, never had one myself). The brno/cz .22 semi is awesome for accuracy when you get into the bigger price category.

And so there's the 10/22. Pretty costly, but properly tuned, modded and running large cap mags, it works great. There are folks that have up to $2000 into a single gun, but you can do it for around $600, or perhaps $500 if you find a used one. You will want a trigger job and an aftermarket barrel (green mountain sporter ftw). That's before you add the scope btw.

Really I suggest getting both a bolt .22 and a semi and see which you prefer.
The cz 452 and older brnos are generally excellent shooters, and excel at more precision shooting, like grouse head shots already mentioned.
And if the sky's the limit, consider going straight into Anschutz country for a model 54 bolt action .22 ($1000 plus). Those are beautifully made guns.
Honestly just getting one to shoot gophers an that kinda stuff, that’s why I’m considering just a 10/22. I don’t plan on targets or any of that. An the Ruger sounds like a pretty solid rifle. I’ll keep my eyes out for a couple tho !
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