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02-03-2012, 05:18 PM
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45-70 dangerous game bullets/defense
hey guys im sure this one has been up B4.
just wondering whats a better/best factory loaded ammo for the 45-70 ?for bears /defense. i was looking at the hornady 325 gr lever revoulution ammo, seems good is probably the deadliest
my gun is a double barrel bakail. so middle of the road pressure/power i think
probably anything with a 300 gr pill up close will drop a bear hey?
any personnel experience stories are appreciated with a 45/70.
as a side note what about handload bullets?ive never loaded for bear defense, so what would i want to start with a nosler or barnes or something?
what type of bullet would you want again, non expanding -deep pen right?.like the opposite of a deer round right? thanx
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02-03-2012, 06:01 PM
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Not sure if your gun could handle the pressure but Buffalo Bore loads pretty hot bear loads for 45/70.
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02-03-2012, 06:04 PM
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I use garret ammo in a 540gr hardcast, well I carry it in my sleeve never had to use it yet ( fortunately ) but have heard good things.
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02-03-2012, 06:16 PM
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Not sure if your gun could handle the pressure but Buffalo Bore loads pretty hot bear loads for 45/70.
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Where would I find those?
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02-03-2012, 07:21 PM
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I don't think you have even close to an issue with those heavy weights. My friend who lives in Whitehorse anchored a huge grizz with a .270 and won the prize knife for 2005. If he can do it with a 150gr pill, you should have no issues, just don't shoot it out of a Remlin if you want to cycle a 2nd round without objections from the gun.
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02-03-2012, 07:33 PM
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The ammo suggested above is not available in Canada after checking it out with the manufactures...to bad I really wanted to try the Garrett ammo.
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02-03-2012, 09:55 PM
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Where would I find those?
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I've always found it at whole sale sports.
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02-04-2012, 08:32 AM
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I've always found it at whole sale sports.
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I am going to check it out...there site said that they only import via some company they had there....Garrett doesn't all after talking to the owner of it.
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02-04-2012, 08:57 AM
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I am going to check it out...there site said that they only import via some company they had there....Garrett doesn't all after talking to the owner of it.
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Harv, If you find some can you PM me.
Thanks vcmm
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02-04-2012, 09:21 AM
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Harv, If you find some can you PM me.
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I will...I am looking hard for some.
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02-04-2012, 10:06 AM
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I shoot the lever revolutions in 325gr. Hit a bear last year with one cause my bow no longer seemed adequate for the situation  My Exit wound on the bear was soft ball sized, it was not a perfect shot but he dropped. Now it was just a black but i would feel comfortable if i met a grizz bear with it too.
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02-04-2012, 11:40 AM
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thats pretty crazy canadian. actually i just picked up a pack of it last night-hornady lever.... it was cheaper than the blue pack of federal to boot...thats strange i thought. ill see how they shoot in my rifle .
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02-04-2012, 11:43 AM
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Not sure if your gun could handle the pressure but Buffalo Bore loads pretty hot bear loads for 45/70.
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mines a sxs double barrel, catinthehat says it only rated for about 30,000 psi,also the gunsmith i showed it to says theres a locking thingy missing(for high pressure) so keep it toned down. so no i dont think it can handle the 500gr hard as duck handloads.
eventually i might handload it with the 400 gr speer /barnes
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02-04-2012, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf308
thats pretty crazy canadian. actually i just picked up a pack of it last night-hornady lever.... it was cheaper than the blue pack of federal to boot...thats strange i thought. ill see how they shoot in my rifle .
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yah all the LeveRevolution ammo except the 30-30 I've seen is always cheaper than Federal blue box.
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