Police Camera's

[Deo101]

Imho every police officer should be wearing a live streaming camera. They've had great success from both sides of the equation. Would be criminals know they're on the record as well as police. Id sure like to see some more footage of them rooting through house in High River...It's be like the tv show "Cops" 24/7.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...plaints-rialto

[BeeGuy]

The last thing they want is accountability.

They work very hard to this end.

[CaberTosser]

You two might then be surprised about the pilot program the CPS is running for body cameras. Its oversimplifying to think that they should be on 24/7, as that would also have negative effects, such as some witnesses not wanting to speak with them if its being videotaped.

[huntinstuff]

Politicians, teachers and mechanics should have them too

[pseelk]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Politicians, teachers and mechanics should have them too

x2

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Politicians, teachers and mechanics should have them too

Have they been issued firearms?

[bigd]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Have they been issued firearms?

only people with firearms should have them? Do you own firearms?

[bigd]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Politicians, teachers and mechanics should have them too

amen. And don't forget priests, lawyers and boy scout leaders.

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by bigd

only people with firearms should have them? Do you own firearms?

Thats not what was said .. issued ... big difference.

[TangoKilo]

I guess Beekeepers and minor hockey coaches
Should be required to wear body cams also...

[mrmoose]

If teachers should need cameras then I want every mechanic, chef, plumber, doctor, dentist, hell even gas jockeys to have them on. Or lets be more trusting of our fellow man and let everyone do their jobs to the best of their abilities. There will still be bad apples in every profession nd cameras won't change that.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Have they been issued firearms?

Nope. Worse. They were issued licenses to screw people. Worse than a firearm

Redford + ATA + 180 mil = going from last to first

Where did that get most Albertans? It got us here.


As for mechanics, well, it was a cheap shot on my part. .....

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by bigd

only people with firearms should have them? Do you own firearms?

and people with reading comprehension issues...

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Nope. Worse. They were issued licenses to screw people. Worse than a firearm

Redford + ATA + 180 mil = going from last to first

Where did that get most Albertans? It got us here.


As for mechanics, well, it was a cheap shot on my part. .....

The thread is about cops, not teachers.

I'm sure we could do 10 pages on teachers in a heart beat.

My first concern about cops with cameras is the implementation and maintenance of the equipment and data. A situation ripe for abuse.

Money money mooooooooooooney.

To be fair, I bet the RCMP could not implement the program for less than $180mil.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

The thread is about cops, not teachers.

I'm sure we could do 10 pages on teachers in a heart beat.


To be fair, I bet the RCMP could not implement the program for less than $180mil.

Couldnt agree more.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Couldnt agree more.

I guess the underlying issue is how do we address the problems, especially the public's trust of police forces in Canada.

They have certainly come a long way from their intended role.

Perhaps the focus should be on the administration/executive as their management defines everything on down the line, including work place "culture".

[Gboe8]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Politicians, teachers and mechanics should have them too

X3

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

I guess the underlying issue is how do we address the problems, especially the public's trust of police forces in Canada.

They have certainly come a long way from their intended role.

Perhaps the focus should be on the administration/executive as their management defines everything on down the line, including work place "culture".

The biggest change I noted is when the hiring standards changed.

Policing used to be a career, a calling to some. Now it seems to be a job with good benefit package. Safe. Hard to get fired. And you can sue if you get fired.

We've always had cops who made other cops go "hmmmm". Those cops got discussed in person. Now they get discussed on 100 types of media.

To me, I truly believe the issue is in the type of guys/gals that are applying and being hired as compared to hiring cops "by the pound".

Naturally, there are many excellent young and old cops, no matter when they were hired. But policing is attracting all sorts now. And it should. $100,000, 3-6 weeks annual vacation, overtime galore, health benefits, pension. It's pretty attractive to anyone.

But, you have to have the ability to police as you would have others police you.

For some, they forget or never knew that phrase.

[chriscosta]

Dog cops need them ...im sure some will agree lol

[brownbomber]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

The biggest change I noted is when the hiring standards changed.

Policing used to be a career, a calling to some. Now it seems to be a job with good benefit package. Safe. Hard to get fired. And you can sue if you get fired.

We've always had cops who made other cops go "hmmmm". Those cops got discussed in person. Now they get discussed on 100 types of media.

To me, I truly believe the issue is in the type of guys/gals that are applying and being hired as compared to hiring cops "by the pound".

Naturally, there are many excellent young and old cops, no matter when they were hired. But policing is attracting all sorts now. And it should. $100,000, 3-6 weeks annual vacation, overtime galore, health benefits, pension. It's pretty attractive to anyone.

But, you have to have the ability to police as you would have others police you.

For some, they forget or never knew that phrase.

Very true statement.
Just talked to a young GRC with a similar attitude, this is okay for now. Not saying that he isn't going to do a good job. Not sure about the long haul though. That's a fairly new thought, most guys I knew in the past were planning on pension.

[58thecat]

Naughty librarians too ahhh maybe not

[steelsoldier3]

I know they've done it other places in the states with success.

As mentioned above CPS is doing it as a pilot project and I hope that it gets fully implemented. The price for good mobile cameras is low enough that it is completely feasible in my opinion.

[KWO]

My brother is a police officer in Texas. When he started, a few of their patrol cars had dash cams, but the officers did not wear cameras. He and other officers were often accused of racist behaviour when conducting investigations or making arrests. Having to constantly defend himself against allegations was a huge source of stress.

For the past few years, all of their cars have dash cams and every officer has been required to wear a camera on their shoulder. Both have full audio. He said that it changed the job significantly for the positive. Yes, it can protect suspects from police abuse. But it also protects the police from false allegations.

[CaberTosser]

Those cameras and audio from inside the car can help a lot as well. A male officer can now transport a female suspect without fear of false accusations with that time-stamped evidence available to him. Often they'd have to wait either for a female officer or a second officer as a witness when transporting women. Sometimes the doughheads don't realize they're being recorded inside the police vehicles and let slip incriminating evidence. I don't know if local LE vehicles have that, but have seen enough episodes of 'Cops' or "Worlds Wildest Police Videos" to know that its used elsewhere.