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Old 02-23-2020, 09:05 PM
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Who do you think is funding all the ******* protestors! Putin needs oil money to keep his regime afloat. Hes been pulling divisive **** like this for a long time in western society. Hell he has half of America in his pocket...including everyone's hero around this board.
So you're saying Putin has the leader (of whom some have referred to as egotistical) of the most powerful country in the world in his back pocket.
Makes perfect sense.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:21 PM
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Who do you think is funding all the ******* protestors! Putin needs oil money to keep his regime afloat. Hes been pulling divisive **** like this for a long time in western society. Hell he has half of America in his pocket...including everyone's hero around this board.
US environmental groups are funding the protestors. Why would Russia care? They want something built they do it, they don’t need to spend a decade conjuring up ways to satisfy every special interest minority group.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:23 PM
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Teck will likely wait until we have a new government, and then apply again.
I believe this

No one in their right mind would invest in this country until Trudeau is out of office one way or the other

Kenney is another joke, but, one idiot at a time.....
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:27 PM
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I hate to say this, but as long as the FN are treated as a higher class citizens the more of this we will see.
I have seen some shady deals struck with some individuals on the kitimat LNG project. A guy said he would block it unless he gets the contract for all security work there. And he sure did get it.

All they want is money. And no one called them out when they said no to transmountain then turned around and wanted to buy it.

Good luck canada
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:27 PM
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jan 2017 " Prime Minister Justin Trudeau sparked immediate anger among Alberta politicians on Friday by suggesting Canada should "phase out" the oilsands."

only took three years . say what you want about JT but he has done what he set out to do .
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:28 PM
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So you're saying Putin has the leader (of whom some have referred to as egotistical) of the most powerful country in the world in his back pocket.
Makes perfect sense.
Actually, yes. Trump openly admires him and has made many questionable decisions that totally helps the Russians. Betraying the Kurds ring any bells? That’s only one.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:35 PM
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Really, why would any company risk investing billions of $, just to get shut down by an overtly antagonistic government, with layers and layers of regulatory hoop$ to dance through, and then an UNDRIP empowered FN
Leadership (if you could ever identify it?) Who just see a big shakedown extortion opportunity.... Nope. Closed For Business.

Jesus wept.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:36 PM
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Letter from Teck website;
https://www.teck.com/media/Don-Linds...-Wilkinson.pdf
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:55 PM
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Really, why would any company risk investing billions of $, just to get shut down by an overtly antagonistic government, with layers and layers of regulatory hoop$ to dance through, and then an UNDRIP empowered FN
Leadership (if you could ever identify it?) Who just see a big shakedown extortion opportunity.... Nope. Closed For Business.

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Old 02-23-2020, 09:57 PM
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Just watch; the rest of Canada will gloat.
Yes the CBC comments are truly unbelievable , dam leftist Liberals .
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:30 PM
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A great many more reluctant but resolute separatists were created tonight. We're being pushed out. It's pointless to try to "save" confederation.
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:49 PM
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The project wasn't economically feasible.

Profitability was based off $95/barrel oil.

Teck knew this, had the opportunity to save face while giving the federal government a slap on the face on the way out (what what it's worth).

I wanted this project to go ahead as much as anyone on this board, but just couldn't see how the numbers would work out, even if it had got approval.
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Old 02-23-2020, 11:53 PM
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A great many more reluctant but resolute separatists were created tonight. We're being pushed out. It's pointless to try to "save" confederation.
Well, I’ll admit that I’m a reluctant separatist. If there was a feasible way of doing it I’d be on board. I won’t jump on the Wexit crazy train though, that guy is an idiot. If a legitimate leader stepped up I’d listen. It’d be a better choice than being “phased out” imo.
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:14 AM
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Suncor is reporting $24.00-26.50 cash costs per oilsands barrel for 2019.
The Frontier project certainly appeared feasible in the current environment.
No companies are going to want to partner up and fork out the better part of $20 billion when we have a federal government that has spoken out directly about shutting down the oilsands.
Until the political climate in this country turns around new project developments are going to be few and far between.
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Good.
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Old 02-24-2020, 04:58 AM
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Actually, really bad. Horrible, in fact.
Lots of groups with their hands out wanting tax dollars and the Liberals spending like drunken sailors with no concept of how those dollars were generated.
Pretty sad. Not the Canada I grew up in.
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Old 02-24-2020, 05:37 AM
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Old 02-24-2020, 06:13 AM
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Nothing will change until Whitey starts using the same tactics. Then it will come to a head. We will see how bad this country really is then.
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Old 02-24-2020, 06:40 AM
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Teck pulled its application saying fourth quarter profits down
Checked out corporate web site and found they were losing $10.95/bbl on their 21.3% investment in Fort Hills plant/mine which just came on line in 2018.
Plus interest on capital costs.
https://www.teck.com/operations/cana...ons/fort-hills

What idiot would invest?

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Old 02-24-2020, 06:53 AM
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Yeah, kinda thought Teck would pull out. Can't blame them. Western Canada is officially shut down for business. Thanks Turd,thanks FN,thanks Rockefellers, thanks Horgen.
Now how does separation look?
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Rachel Nutley blames the UCP government for TECK’s withdrawal. Talk about being butt hurt over being decimated in the election, next she’ll say the UCP is responsible for fixing the US elections. What a dolt.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:15 AM
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Yeah, kinda thought Teck would pull out. Can't blame them. Western Canada is officially shut down for business. Thanks Turd,thanks FN,thanks Rockefellers, thanks Horgen.
Now how does separation look?
Pretty damn good
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Rachel Nutley blames the UCP government for TECK’s withdrawal. Talk about being butt hurt over being decimated in the election, next she’ll say the UCP is responsible for fixing the US elections. What a dolt.
Notley began the movement to drive investors out of Alberta, and now Trudeau intends to finish the job.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:20 AM
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Rachel Nutley blames the UCP government for TECK’s withdrawal. Talk about being butt hurt over being decimated in the election, next she’ll say the UCP is responsible for fixing the US elections. What a dolt.
She knows her only hope to get back into power is play on Alberta’s frustrations with Kenny not being able to turn things around

Scary part there is those who will fall for it
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:26 AM
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Warren Kinsella just tweeted that PMO told Teck to withdraw because the Liberal cabinet was in revolt.

Sad day.

Very sad.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:34 AM
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The project wasn't economically feasible.

Profitability was based off $95/barrel oil.

Teck knew this, had the opportunity to save face while giving the federal government a slap on the face on the way out (what what it's worth).

I wanted this project to go ahead as much as anyone on this board, but just couldn't see how the numbers would work out, even if it had got approval.
Completely agree. Also a lack of access to $20 billion in capital. Who wants to invest here when we aren’t open for business?
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Warren Kinsella just tweeted that PMO told Teck to withdraw because the Liberal cabinet was in revolt.

Sad day.

Very sad.
We need a cabinet revolt.
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She knows her only hope to get back into power is play on Alberta’s frustrations with Kenny not being able to turn things around

Scary part there is those who will fall for it
Unfortunately, there are also many Canadians in the east (and even some in the west) that will fall for the turd come next election! Not likely to happen before 2023. Fear for the future of your kids and grandchildren. At our current rate there won't be much left for them in a very short time. Think it can't happen? Take a look at the current state of Venezuela. In reality, they should be, are one of the richest nations on the planet. Sound familiar? Currently people are going hungry, there are sever shortages of almost everything including medicine. Most able bodied persons have left or are trying to leave the country. The Chavez dream and vision of Eden has ended in total economic disaster! The turd and his merry band of vagabonds have their own dream of Eden and the way things are going, it could very easily end the same way.

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I hate to say this, but as long as the FN are treated as a higher class citizens the more of this we will see.
I have seen some shady deals struck with some individuals on the kitimat LNG project. A guy said he would block it unless he gets the contract for all security work there. And he sure did get it.

All they want is money. And no one called them out when they said no to transmountain then turned around and wanted to buy it.

Good luck canada
The shady side deal (bribes) happen all the time.

How Many of you read about the armed blockade north of Conklin something like ten years ago? Old native ladies trapline, has company skidded in a couple extra compressors to boost capacity... her boys and a few nephews parked their trucks across the winter road access and stood in the truck beds, with rifles. Only lasted 2 days, Rcmp did come but no charges laid , and yes she was awarded additional compensation on top of what she was already given years ago for developers consent. Don’t think that one made the news.

How about 5 years ago when a new section of line was being run between (Anzac) cheecham terminal down to Conklin terminal... there was another armed blockade that actually occurred on the south west corner of our trapline. Local native guy wanted some heavy equipment contracts, so him and a few employees
Transported a D8 and knocked a few cords of timber down across the pipeline right of way and parked the cat on top. Stood on the tracks with rifles and demanded a contract. They got it. Also the pipeline company requested that no charges be laid.
Don’t think that made the news ...
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:19 AM
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Warren Kinsella just tweeted that PMO told Teck to withdraw because the Liberal cabinet was in revolt.

Sad day.

Very sad.
If that’s true it’s a happy day. Obviously his own cabinet can see he’s a useless twit and will hopefully kick him to the curb.
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