Long Range—— 6.5 PRC vs 28 Nosler

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by norwest alta

male sex organ shaped pink camo?

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[lclund1946]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Recycle.

I’ve been buying and selling guns and bows for a long time, usually adding a couple hundred here and there. It’s taken a while but now it’s hard for my wife to say no if I’m only throwing in a couple hundred bucks. It helps if she thinks the gun looks “pretty”, lol.

I’m not sure what cartridge to buy, all my components are 6.5, 6.8, and 7mm so any one of those calibers would do the trick. Ideally I’d like something for long range work, I know there are a pile of cartridges that’ll work, I sold off my 270 wsm’s so now I’m left with about 100 Taylor loaded 150 Bergerac, 50 factory loaded 150gr ABLR’s and about 150 cases on top of that, not to mention about 300 Nosler 150gr ABLR’s still in the box. Common sense says buy a 270 wsm but I’m convinced I need a 6.5 or 7mm though.

I am waiting on a reamer for a 270 Wildcat that I call the 270 Precision Hunter Cartridge PHC. It will be throated for both the 150 LRAB and ELDX to seat to the lands or about 0.035" off with the bullet bearing surface seated ahead of the neck/shoulder junction as they should be. My dummy rounds fit and feed perfectly from a Win Model 70 WSM action with these bullets seated and there is enough room for about 61-62 grains of RL 26 under the 150 LRAB which should get it to between 3000 -3100 fps especially if one goes to a 26 " barrel. The Berger 170 EOL may be a perfect fit as well but may be a bit long to feed from the magazine and have to run some Bearing Surface below neck shoulder junction. have seen a report of someone getting 2900fps with that bullet 0.020" off the lands with just over 57 grains RL26. I have all of the components for a build except a barrel which will likely be 1-8.5" if I can find one. Perhaps you would be interested in working with me on this project and the build will likely be within your budget even if you replace the stock with one of your choice.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

That's what the guy at the gun store said. It's pretty easy to ruin the barrel if you're not paying attention and shoot a box of shells without a smoke break.

I might be in trouble then...... I quit smoking about 10 years ago.

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

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Yep but hot pink rainbow

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I might be in trouble then...... I quit smoking about 10 years ago.

Not a problem. Start again. That easy.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

Not a problem. Start again. That easy.

Weeds legal now I guess.

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Weeds legal now I guess.

True but impaired firearm handling is never a good idea

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

True but impaired firearm handling is never a good idea

Definitly give me enough time between sets.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I have yet to handle a carbon barreled rifle that I like the balance of, they all feel too light in the muzzle for me, and muzzle rise is more than I like. I have handled them after firing, and they seem to cool very quickly, but I wonder how hot the thin steel barrel liner gets while shooting ,that will be a major factor in throat erosion.

The rifle was 6lb 12.8oz, 7lb 15.1oz scoped.

[41thunder]

Originally Posted by lclund1946

I am waiting on a reamer for a 270 Wildcat that I call the 270 Precision Hunter Cartridge PHC. It will be throated for both the 150 LRAB and ELDX to seat to the lands or about 0.035" off with the bullet bearing surface seated ahead of the neck/shoulder junction as they should be. My dummy rounds fit and feed perfectly from a Win Model 70 WSM action with these bullets seated and there is enough room for about 61-62 grains of RL 26 under the 150 LRAB which should get it to between 3000 -3100 fps especially if one goes to a 26 " barrel. The Berger 170 EOL may be a perfect fit as well but may be a bit long to feed from the magazine and have to run some Bearing Surface below neck shoulder junction. have seen a report of someone getting 2900fps with that bullet 0.020" off the lands with just over 57 grains RL26. I have all of the components for a build except a barrel which will likely be 1-8.5" if I can find one. Perhaps you would be interested in working with me on this project and the build will likely be within your budget even if you replace the stock with one of your choice.

I think he already bought something

[Don_Parsons]

That's what counts, finding something you like.

Going forward with good times is deffinatly alot of fun.

[Kurt505]

This is what Christensen has to say about their barrels:



Carbon fiber is a composite material. As such, it performs much differently than a metal would when utilized in firearm components. The bore of our barrels are stainless steel, but the exterior is carefully wrapped in the composite which allows heat to dissipate more effectively than it would with steel alone. More effective heat dissipation between shots means less deformation, longer barrel life, and improved accuracy.
Sacrificing steel doesn’t make the barrel any less stiff. Our particular carbon fiber composite is two times stiffer, and five times stronger than the equivalent weight of steel. The increased rigidity carbon fiber gives our barrels improves the overall barrel harmonics. Better barrel harmonics means better shot-to-shot accuracy.
Generally, barrels that are wrapped in carbon fiber will also weigh less than traditional steel or fluted steel options. Our carbon fiber is four times lighter than steel, allowing the barrel to maintain essential shape and form without the weight of additional metal. This means that you can expect more out of your firearm while carrying less


The life of a barrel will be primarily be determined by the caliber and shooting conditions.

However, carbon fiber wrapped barrels should have a longer barrel life than traditional stainless steel



https://christensenarms.com/faqs/

[Xbolt7mm]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

The rifle was 6lb 12.8oz, 7lb 15.1oz scoped.

Nice looking gun

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

Nice looking gun

Thank you,

After going over pretty much all the Christensen’s in their store, this one was the nicest one as far as fit, finish, and paint goes. Didn’t want a removable mag but it was better than the alternatives.

[41thunder]

Where did you pick it up from?

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by 41thunder

Where did you pick it up from?

Sylvestre’s

[41thunder]

Did they still have the fierce ct 7lrm?

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by 41thunder

Did they still have the fierce ct 7lrm?

Ya

[Deer Hunter]

Originally Posted by lclund1946

I am waiting on a reamer for a 270 Wildcat that I call the 270 Precision Hunter Cartridge PHC. It will be throated for both the 150 LRAB and ELDX to seat to the lands or about 0.035" off with the bullet bearing surface seated ahead of the neck/shoulder junction as they should be. My dummy rounds fit and feed perfectly from a Win Model 70 WSM action with these bullets seated and there is enough room for about 61-62 grains of RL 26 under the 150 LRAB which should get it to between 3000 -3100 fps especially if one goes to a 26 " barrel. The Berger 170 EOL may be a perfect fit as well but may be a bit long to feed from the magazine and have to run some Bearing Surface below neck shoulder junction. have seen a report of someone getting 2900fps with that bullet 0.020" off the lands with just over 57 grains RL26. I have all of the components for a build except a barrel which will likely be 1-8.5" if I can find one. Perhaps you would be interested in working with me on this project and the build will likely be within your budget even if you replace the stock with one of your choice.

Interesting build. This is accomplished with a 270 Winchester as well. 10 twist will get you up to 150's. Slow powder and a 24" barrel will see that 3000 fps +
Lots of options

[lclund1946]

Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

Interesting build. This is accomplished with a 270 Winchester as well. 10 twist will get you up to 150's. Slow powder and a 24" barrel will see that 3000 fps +
Lots of options

I have been loading the 150 LRAB, COL 3.44" which is 0.200" off the lands, with IMR 7977 that is supposed to get it to 3000 fps. Can't get enough powder in Federal brass but FL Hornady brass holds 61.5 and gets 2906 fps. Not sure if a new chamber would help as havn't had a new chamber to check COAL to Lands. He is happy with the load to 400M yards but finds that it begins to open up at 500 M + likely due to bullet instability. RL 26 should make all the difference as I hear reports of 3100 fps but a 9" twist may be better.

The 270 WSM seats to the lands but the Bullet Bearing Surface is well down in the neck and only two fit in the Model 70 magazine. As well the thick brass holds a bit more powder than necessary, to get to 3100+ without over pressuring. I think that the 0.014" neck thickness and that fact that the 270 PHC will hold about 1-1.5 grains more than the Hornady 270 brass will make it just about right with RL 26 as well as other powders. Here is a picture with the 270 Win on left, 270 WSM in the middle and 270 PHC on right with bullet seated to the lands. The 150 LRAB and 145 ELD-X both can both be seated about 0.035" off the lands , if PT&G get the reamer right, and have the BS in the neck which is desirable for a precision cartridge.
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[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by lclund1946

I have been loading the 150 LRAB, COL 3.44" which is 0.200" off the lands, with IMR 7977 that is supposed to get it to 3000 fps. Can't get enough powder in Federal brass but FL Hornady brass holds 61.5 and gets 2906 fps. Not sure if a new chamber would help as havn't had a new chamber to check COAL to Lands. He is happy with the load to 400M yards but finds that it begins to open up at 500 M + likely due to bullet instability. RL 26 should make all the difference as I hear reports of 3100 fps but a 9" twist may be better.

The 270 WSM seats to the lands but the Bullet Bearing Surface is well down in the neck and only two fit in the Model 70 magazine. As well the thick brass holds a bit more powder than necessary, to get to 3100+ without over pressuring. I think that the 0.014" neck thickness and that fact that the 270 PHC will hold about 1-1.5 grains more than the Hornady 270 brass will make it just about right with RL 26 as well as other powders. Here is a picture with the 270 Win on left, 270 WSM in the middle and 270 PHC on right with bullet seated to the lands. The 150 LRAB and 145 ELD-X both can both be seated about 0.035" off the lands , if PT&G get the reamer right, and have the BS in the neck which is desirable for a precision cartridge.
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I’m not sure how well you’re set up for components but you should check out my add in the classifieds. I have a pile of brass and 150gr ABLR’s, along with a bunch of other 270 WSM stuff.

[Don_Parsons]

That's awesome Iclund, you definitely bring some Intresting information to the forum.

Thanks for sharing the wild cat cartridge ideas.

👍

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by Don_Parsons

That's awesome Iclund, you definitely bring some Intresting information to the forum.

Thanks for sharing the wild cat cartridge ideas.

👍

Sure does. Would be cool to watch him work and his testing methods.

[Stinky Coyote]

X3 👍

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote

Lol. I’m glad I wasn’t shooting anything bigger, I might have an empty freezer.

We are opposite end of spectrum with our latest fancy. Let me know when you kill something with yours.👍

Well stinky unfortunately I didn't kill my elk with my 26 nosler. Instead I opted for my 338. Worked good.

[marky_mark]

Where did you aim? Vitals, guts, hind leg or head?
Did your bullet have a high enough sd??

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Where did you aim? Vitals, guts, hind leg or head?
Did your bullet have a high enough sd??

Lol. Head at about 150 yds
Only shot I had other then stern to stem. Not a ass shooter.
210 Barnes 338 wm tikka 695. Gonna guess the sd was right on the money. Perfect penetration with expansion because it is dead.

[marky_mark]

Sounds like a lot of recoil?
Have you thought about the 338 Grendel?

[Stinky Coyote]

Lmao, the Grendel would have been fine there, but you burn as much powder as you like.👍

[41thunder]

375 Grendel
Would that be legal for dangerous game?