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10-04-2020, 09:56 PM
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So why are Canadians so fixated on the US presidency when we have a much more serious problem facing us here? Our country is being destroyed and all people can do is talk about Donald Trump. What gives? We should be paying attention to our own back yard first.
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10-04-2020, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by trooper
So why are Canadians so fixated on the US presidency when we have a much more serious problem facing us here? Our country is being destroyed and all people can do is talk about Donald Trump. What gives? We should be paying attention to our own back yard first.
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I’ve been saying this for 4 years.
Many of the ‘issues ‘ that Canadian Anti Trumpers freak about, Trudeau has done........crickets
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10-04-2020, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by trooper
So why are Canadians so fixated on the US presidency when we have a much more serious problem facing us here? Our country is being destroyed and all people can do is talk about Donald Trump. What gives? We should be paying attention to our own back yard first.
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There is nothing good happening in Canadian politics and no light at the end of the tunnel for our problems. Trump gives us a faint glimmer, maybe what he does in the US can help us out. Canada is a minor country, after all, that is heavily influenced by what happens in the US. We should each try to live well and get involved in Canadian politics if we can stomach it, but what's happening in the US right now is much more interesting than what's happening in Ottawa. I agree that we should not forget about our own country, though. It's just not that interesting to discuss.
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10-05-2020, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HVA7mm
Unfortunately most politicians and executives are emboldened by this very quality, no matter their political slant. Money and/or power combined with narcissism inevitably lead to corruption. The dark side of human personality reveals itself quite often when narcissists are faced with complex or even simple moral dilemmas. (Think Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, Socialist, Capitalist etc.)
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Trump just swims in it a bit more than the rest.....
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10-05-2020, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by trooper
So why are Canadians so fixated on the US presidency when we have a much more serious problem facing us here? Our country is being destroyed and all people can do is talk about Donald Trump. What gives? We should be paying attention to our own back yard first.
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The CBC told them to worry about the bad orange man
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10-05-2020, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by trooper
So why are Canadians so fixated on the US presidency when we have a much more serious problem facing us here? Our country is being destroyed and all people can do is talk about Donald Trump. What gives? We should be paying attention to our own back yard first.
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Canada is being damaged at an alarming rate by an inept clown . . . . . divided along racial, economic, and regional lines.
Yet, many Canadians 'light their hair on fire' over what an elected (by majority) President does in a foreign country . . . . duh!
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10-05-2020, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by trooper
So why are Canadians so fixated on the US presidency when we have a much more serious problem facing us here? Our country is being destroyed and all people can do is talk about Donald Trump. What gives? We should be paying attention to our own back yard first.
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To some extent Canadian economic policies are influenced by American ones. The US is our biggest trading partner. If US policies change dramatically, as some fear will happen if Biden is elected, trade between our countries will be affected. (Biden has said he will stop the buying of Canadian oil for example).
The Turd in Ottawa will be emboldened to implement even more social programs with a socialist government in the US. The UN will push more of it's ridiculous gender related and racial justice agendas on us because they won't have Trump pushing back. And Turdo will eat it up.
Turdo and Biden's populist politics together will almost assuredly bring sweeping new gun control laws. Can't think of any other issue that enrages die hard Republicans more than that. Some say civil war from that perspective.
So Trump is a narcissist. So he's a womanizer. He tells lies.
Biden is no better, but he's also a weak minded geriatric who will give in to globalist manipulators and he'll spend the US into so much debt the western economy could well collapse.
Our own backyard may someday belong to someone else.
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10-05-2020, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Head Lice
Canada is being damaged at an alarming rate by an inept clown . . . . . divided along racial, economic, and regional lines.
Yet, many Canadians 'light their hair on fire' over what an elected (by majority) President does in a foreign country . . . . duh!
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He wasn't elected by the majority. Neither was our clown.
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10-05-2020, 08:32 AM
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He wasn't elected by the majority. Neither was our clown.
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Majority of Electoral College votes . . .
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10-05-2020, 08:41 AM
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Majority of Electoral College votes . . .
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Clearly not a majority of voters is what I was pointing out. I would say a lot of people in Canada are worried about our own government as well. We have Wexit and resurgence in the Bloc and there is no shortage of discussion about Trudeau on any forum I frequent. Majority of people are pro Trump as well. Seems to be the general consensus across the whole world that people are questioning their governments.
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10-06-2020, 07:33 PM
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Trump is releasing russia probe docs;
"I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...40512025513984
Things will start getting interesting next few weeks I think!
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10-06-2020, 07:38 PM
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Trump is releasing russia probe docs;
"I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...40512025513984
Things will start getting interesting next few weeks I think!
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Haha. Hillary who? Ancient history about a losing candidate? It would be like Liberal supporters bringing up dirt on Harper now. Who cares about the old losers?
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10-06-2020, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AndrewM
He wasn't elected by the majority. Neither was our clown.
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Instead: Elected by a majority.
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10-07-2020, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewM
He wasn't elected by the majority. Neither was our clown.
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Was waiting to see who would be the first to respond. There is a reason the electoral college exists. As much as the leftist controlled states like New York and California with large populations believe, the world doesn’t revolve around them.
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10-07-2020, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AI 6.5
Was waiting to see who would be the first to respond. There is a reason the electoral college exists. As much as the leftist controlled states like New York and California with large populations believe, the world doesn’t revolve around them.
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Unfortunately for us it does around Ontario and Quebec.
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10-07-2020, 08:10 AM
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Unfortunately for us it does around Ontario and Quebec.
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Agree 100%
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10-07-2020, 09:31 AM
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Unfortunately for us it does around Ontario and Quebec.
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It always has. The Prairies vs Central Canada, or West vs East less precisely, has existed from the beginning. In a democracy the more sparsely-populated areas always feel victimized. The USA has the fly-over states to match Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta.
Some place on AO I read that Justin Trudeau has done more than anyone to split the country. No one who remembers Pierre Trudeau would agree with that.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way out. We need a national leader who recognizes their responsibility to the entire country, not just the parts that voted them in.
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10-07-2020, 09:35 AM
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It always has. The Prairies vs Central Canada, or West vs East less precisely, has existed from the beginning. In a democracy the more sparsely-populated areas always feel victimized. The USA has the fly-over states to match Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta.
Some place on AO I read that Justin Trudeau has done more than anyone to split the country. No one who remembers Pierre Trudeau would agree with that.
Unfortunately, there is no easy way out. We need a national leader who recognizes their responsibility to the entire country, not just the parts that voted them in.
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Absolutely we need a leader than can lead a country and not a party.
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10-07-2020, 01:06 PM
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I get a kick out of the people giving us all a sermon about Trudeau when there's a few things they are missing here .........
1) The US is Canada's largest trading partner and represents the largest GDP impact to our economy.
2) Economic conditions such as, interest rates, commodity prices, currency FX, private investment, and even employment, wages, etc... follow a correlation between us and the US, further impacting the economy.
3) Politics, Social Issues, Culture, etc... are correlative
and ......... here the biggest reason you all should get off the pulpit and stop pontificating .......
4) The Thread is about Trump, not Trudeau.
Is that a difficult thing to understand? If you want to talk about Trudeau, start a thread on it, but to derail a thread and then give people an earful as to why they are not also derailing a thread is absolutely stunningly ridiculous to me.
I can't believe how so many people do not seem to have the capacity to understand that. I am crestfallen.
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10-07-2020, 01:22 PM
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I get a kick out of the people giving us all a sermon about Trudeau when there's a few things they are missing here .........
1) The US is Canada's largest trading partner and represents the largest GDP impact to our economy.
2) Economic conditions such as, interest rates, commodity prices, currency FX, private investment, and even employment, wages, etc... follow a correlation between us and the US, further impacting the economy.
3) Politics, Social Issues, Culture, etc... are correlative
and ......... here the biggest reason you all should get off the pulpit and stop pontificating .......
4) The Thread is about Trump, not Trudeau.
Is that a difficult thing to understand? If you want to talk about Trudeau, start a thread on it, but to derail a thread and then give people an earful as to why they are not also derailing a thread is absolutely stunningly ridiculous to me.
I can't believe how so many people do not seem to have the capacity to understand that. I am crestfallen.
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In most people's defense including my own, many threads end up as a roundtable discussions and lack complete focus.
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10-07-2020, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EZM
I get a kick out of the people giving us all a sermon about Trudeau when there's a few things they are missing here .........
1) The US is Canada's largest trading partner and represents the largest GDP impact to our economy.
2) Economic conditions such as, interest rates, commodity prices, currency FX, private investment, and even employment, wages, etc... follow a correlation between us and the US, further impacting the economy.
3) Politics, Social Issues, Culture, etc... are correlative
and ......... here the biggest reason you all should get off the pulpit and stop pontificating .......
4) The Thread is about Trump, not Trudeau.
Is that a difficult thing to understand? If you want to talk about Trudeau, start a thread on it, but to derail a thread and then give people an earful as to why they are not also derailing a thread is absolutely stunningly ridiculous to me.
I can't believe how so many people do not seem to have the capacity to understand that. I am crestfallen.
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You used to be the worst for this. (Used to) you’ve come along ways. There was a time when the thread was about tennis rackets and you’d find a way to insert Trump into it.
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10-07-2020, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AI 6.5
Was waiting to see who would be the first to respond. There is a reason the electoral college exists. As much as the leftist controlled states like New York and California with large populations believe, the world doesn’t revolve around them.
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To put it simply, they called it the United States not State. (A federation.)
This is interesting - see article link below. (I love forum threads that push me to read up on topics that I’d have thought that never in a million years I’d have any interest in. Makes my first comments above rather dumb.)
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What Is the Electoral College and Why Was It Created? - HISTORY
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Not only was the creation of the Electoral College in part a political workaround for the persistence of slavery in the United States, but almost none of the Founding Fathers’ assumptions about the electoral system proved true.
For starters, there were no political parties in 1787. The drafters of the Constitution assumed that electors would vote according to their individual discretion, not the dictates of a state or national party. Today, most electors are bound to vote for their party’s candidate.
And even more important, the Constitution says nothing about how the states should allot their electoral votes. The assumption was...”
https://www.history.com/news/elector...nal-convention
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10-07-2020, 05:31 PM
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You used to be the worst for this. (Used to) you’ve come along ways. There was a time when the thread was about tennis rackets and you’d find a way to insert Trump into it.
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I got nothing for you here .... not one possible clever remark, witty comeback or reverse roe-sham-boe ........ because you are 100% right.
nothing .......... crickets............
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10-07-2020, 05:40 PM
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Haha. Hillary who? Ancient history about a losing candidate? It would be like Liberal supporters bringing up dirt on Harper now. Who cares about the old losers?
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I don't think there is any dirty on harper that would or could put him in jail for the test of his life. They're is that kind of dirt on hilary.
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10-07-2020, 05:49 PM
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So why are Canadians so fixated on the US presidency when we have a much more serious problem facing us here? Our country is being destroyed and all people can do is talk about Donald Trump. What gives? We should be paying attention to our own back yard first.
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It was the elder Turdeau that came up with the analogy of sleeping with an elephant.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sunday/the-...ions-1.4699017
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