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11-19-2018, 09:21 PM
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Mule deer with different horn
Does this look like a mule deer with one normal looking antler,
and one that looks like a whitetail antler
The time is not right on the pics,
As good as pics i could get at the time and distance
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11-19-2018, 09:23 PM
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Looks like a mule deer to me!
Seriously though , they can get messed up antlers same as a white tail can .
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11-19-2018, 09:39 PM
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Looks fairly normal to me.
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11-19-2018, 09:44 PM
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There is no rule that says a deer must have an even number of tines or configuration per side.
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11-19-2018, 09:46 PM
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Yup mule deer without a back fork on one side, they aren’t all typical 4x4
Pretty common actually, I shot this one this year
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11-19-2018, 10:13 PM
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Okay thanks for reply’s
It just looked like the 3 point right side curved ahead more instead of going higher up like the other side
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11-19-2018, 10:14 PM
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Not at all unusual for a mule deer.
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11-19-2018, 11:17 PM
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There's a lot of mule deer with abnormal antlers in my area. One looks like a massive typical 4x4 whitetail. Another has a wide rack looks almost like an elk. The one I harvested is a large 4x4. Typical on one side and none typical the other.
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11-19-2018, 11:34 PM
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100% hybrid. Check for an absence of the adipose fin. If no adipose fin it’s a mule.
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11-20-2018, 04:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talking moose
100% hybrid. Check for an absence of the adipose fin. If no adipose fin it’s a mule.
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What have you been browsing?
You can't tell species this way.
No adipose fin just means it's a "diversified" deer.
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11-20-2018, 07:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Not at all unusual for a mule deer.
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Yup, so common its pretty much normal.
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11-20-2018, 07:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talking moose
100% hybrid. Check for an absence of the adipose fin. If no adipose fin it’s a mule.
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You never know, sometimes the hatchery clips the adipose fin to try and trick us.
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11-20-2018, 07:18 AM
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Nothing different about that mule deer
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11-20-2018, 08:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walking buffalo
What have you been browsing?
You can't tell species this way.
No adipose fin just means it's a "diversified" deer.
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You are both wrong. It is a hatchery deer. Raised in captivity and released for your pleasure. That one on the picture is clearly a triploid as well.
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11-20-2018, 08:19 AM
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Mule bucks with wonky antlers is becoming more the norm than the exception. The nice even antlers are targeted and the wierdos are left to breed. So the wiredo genetics are getting spread more and more. The nice even 4x4 genetics are getting removed from the breeding stock more and more.
Get used to funky antlers. You'll be seeing more and more of them.
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11-20-2018, 08:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weedcatcher
Mule bucks with wonky antlers is becoming more the norm than the exception. The nice even antlers are targeted and the wierdos are left to breed. So the wiredo genetics are getting spread more and more. The nice even 4x4 genetics are getting removed from the breeding stock more and more.
Get used to funky antlers. You'll be seeing more and more of them.
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I don’t believe that. The hunters ive known were a nice mix of some liking a nice neat frame to some liking antlers with junk. We did a sort of poll here on AO once that confirmed it. The average hunter will take a nice mature buck if it gets into his sights no matter typical or non. Personally I like a rack with junk. I like the uniqueness and character.
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11-20-2018, 09:37 AM
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I got a big ole Mule deer buck many moons ago, 1 frt tooth left. He had recessed down to a beauty typical WT rack if you didn't look to hard to see the tiny V tips.
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11-20-2018, 11:05 AM
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I'm talking more about racks with 2 large points on one or both sides on a mature buck. Not so much extra junk but rather not enough points on mature animals. What I see a lot is bucks with very tall antlers with the rear forks but the front forks are tiny. Thick but no length to them.
I saw a WT buck a couple weeks ago that had beams going up with tines going forward. Weird.
I saw a mulie last year that had a big beautiful 4 point on one side and a blob curling down on the other. My friend actually considered taking that one. But didn't.
In the porcupine hills for years you could only shoot a 4x4 mulie. There ended up being a lot of huge 3x3 bucks around. They've changed the rules in there now and I haven't been there for a lot of years so I don't know if it's evened itself out yet or not.
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11-20-2018, 11:08 AM
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It could be a whitetail that identifies it's self as a mule deer.
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11-20-2018, 11:13 PM
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11-21-2018, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weedcatcher
I'm talking more about racks with 2 large points on one or both sides on a mature buck. Not so much extra junk but rather not enough points on mature animals. What I see a lot is bucks with very tall antlers with the rear forks but the front forks are tiny. Thick but no length to them.
I saw a WT buck a couple weeks ago that had beams going up with tines going forward. Weird.
I saw a mulie last year that had a big beautiful 4 point on one side and a blob curling down on the other. My friend actually considered taking that one. But didn't.
In the porcupine hills for years you could only shoot a 4x4 mulie. There ended up being a lot of huge 3x3 bucks around. They've changed the rules in there now and I haven't been there for a lot of years so I don't know if it's evened itself out yet or not.
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The Porkies used to be on a Three point rule, never a four point restriction.
Kind of wrecks the anecdotal evidence.
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11-21-2018, 10:00 AM
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11-21-2018, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 338Bluff
You are both wrong. It is a hatchery deer. Raised in captivity and released for your pleasure. That one on the picture is clearly a triploid as well.
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My comment must have been too subtle.
"Diversified" livestock is the legal name for hatchery deer.
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11-21-2018, 10:16 AM
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I’m a big fan of different looking antlers in deer, not so much a big crazy non typical with stickers every way the wind blows. But a nice buck with two different antlers, nice character.
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11-21-2018, 04:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weedcatcher
Mule bucks with wonky antlers is becoming more the norm than the exception. The nice even antlers are targeted and the wierdos are left to breed. So the wiredo genetics are getting spread more and more. The nice even 4x4 genetics are getting removed from the breeding stock more and more.
Get used to funky antlers. You'll be seeing more and more of them.
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Well, I wouldn't follow that argument too far. Very common for deer antlers to be deformed by barbed wire, in farm country, while they are growing.
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