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Old 05-27-2020, 11:06 AM
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Okay, so can we agree then that both The House and Trump have not really done much to cut spending?
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Old 05-27-2020, 11:15 AM
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I was actually being conservative because the info I read actually looks like over 75,000 per year if you take the average over ten years
I think we see that graph differently. I think that graph shows how many Canadians lived in the USA at the decade turn. So there are actually about 60000 less there now than in 1980. A simple search will show that currently 783000 Americans live in the USA, that is not the total this decade.

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Per the article, about 10 percent of the total US immigrant population are from Canada. Around 750,000 to 800,000 Canadians per decade immigrate to the USA
This quote from the individual on Quora is not correct, I believe he too misinterpreted the graph and thought that meant per decade, not total population.

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Most Canadians who obtain green cards do so through family reunification channels. In fiscal year (FY) 2016, 57 percent of the roughly 12,800 Canadians who became lawful permanent residents (LPRs) did so as either immediate relatives of U.S. citizens or other family members,
so in 2016, it was 12800.

I'm not saying it was not 40000 last year, but I am saying that for certain it was not 783000 this decade.

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Old 05-27-2020, 01:15 PM
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Okay, so can we agree then that both The House and Trump have not really done much to cut spending?
No we most certainly would not agree.

The house is controlled by the left and make every effort to increase government spending to appease their followers. They function very much like the Liberal government we enjoy.

Trump invests money in projects that increase wealth for all classes. He punishes foreign regimes that have been taking advantage of trade deals in the forum of tariffs and new deals. He also greatly reduces US involvement in expensive military action that has nothing to do with the security of the nation or defense of freedom. Very much like the Harper government that was the envy of the world during the last economic downfall in 2008.

Buying votes for the good of your party and strategic investment for the good of a nation should not be compared.
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Old 05-27-2020, 02:00 PM
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I feel embarrassed by the lack of respect shown the POTUS in this country. Our media jumps right on the CNN band wagon. They will often lead with 10 minutes of anti Trump BS before even addressing our own news headlines.

People like EZM and Zip-in-Z are too ignorant to realize why the media bash Trump and how support of the "Fake News" plays right into the hands of our leftist puppet master Trudeau.

Trudeau, more socialist than Bernie and just slightly less demented than Joe, pays off the entire mainstream media in Canada via funding. They in turn support his idiotic ideology by constantly repeating his message which of course is exactly the opposite of Trump's agenda. Bashing Trump allows them to viciously attack the conservative right without actually throwing the mud in our direction. We are bombarded with hatred from the left like the "brainless moron" comment from EZM and Memes from Zip-in-Z. They know they can't change an intelligent person's mind without facts so they name call like children hoping to influence the sheep to follow. Sad part is, it's working.

It is exactly the same shell game they use to remove our rights and freedoms regarding hunting and shooting. Name calling and fear mongering where facts are lacking is unchecked in this country's media.
When political discussions were opened back up, warnings were given that it would be monitored closely, and that should it go off the rails, and become a divisive issue, with members slandering members, it would be shut down.

The post above is a perfect example of what will not be tolerated in any way, shape or form.

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Old 05-27-2020, 02:03 PM
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Considering this years military budget is their largest since ww2, emphasizing producing nuclear weapons and expanding their global military presence, we can choose to disagree on that reduced military spending.

Vote buying so to speak, happens regardless of the policy, depending on what perspective you choose to look at things from if you choose to discount the other as nil and void.

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Old 05-27-2020, 06:02 PM
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I feel embarrassed by the lack of respect shown the POTUS in this country. Our media jumps right on the CNN band wagon. They will often lead with 10 minutes of anti Trump BS before even addressing our own news headlines.

People like EZM and Zip-in-Z are too ignorant to realize why the media bash Trump and how support of the "Fake News" plays right into the hands of our leftist puppet master Trudeau.

Trudeau, more socialist than Bernie and just slightly less demented than Joe, pays off the entire mainstream media in Canada via funding. They in turn support his idiotic ideology by constantly repeating his message which of course is exactly the opposite of Trump's agenda. Bashing Trump allows them to viciously attack the conservative right without actually throwing the mud in our direction. We are bombarded with hatred from the left like the "brainless moron" comment from EZM and Memes from Zip-in-Z. They know they can't change an intelligent person's mind without facts so they name call like children hoping to influence the sheep to follow. Sad part is, it's working.

It is exactly the same shell game they use to remove our rights and freedoms regarding hunting and shooting. Name calling and fear mongering where facts are lacking is unchecked in this country's media.

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When political discussions were opened back up, warnings were given that it would be monitored closely, and that should it go off the rails, and become a divisive issue, with members slandering members, it would be shut down.

The post above is a perfect example of what will not be tolerated in any way, shape or form.

Appreciate the corrective action, what MK2750 wrote was unacceptable, enough said!

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Old 05-27-2020, 06:11 PM
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Appreciate the corrective action, what MK2750 wrote was unacceptable, enough said!

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Then don't keep adding to it. I don't say much and I realize I don't have to read all the posts but imo its 2 sided with both sides egging each other on, waiting to see who cracks first.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:22 PM
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What part of his policy don’t you like?
I am describing his behaviors and personal values and traits - where did I speak to policy? They are two separate and very distinct things.

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Old 05-27-2020, 06:24 PM
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I am describing his behaviors and personal values and traits - where did I speak to policy? You do realize they are two separate and very distinct things don't you?
Do you like his policies?
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:27 PM
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Great post. Ironic part is that the extreme right wing is arguing with the moderate right wing claiming they must be left as they aren’t right wing enough. Keep isolating the middle people and conservatives will never win another election.
This is a comment that should be read, understood and carefully considered by many on here.

100% agreed.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:37 PM
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Do you like his policies?
Good question - In most cases YES.

In a few not so much. ( Abandonment of Kurds, Health Care, etc..) but you are not going to agree 100% on everything.

But, like I said, "policy and mandate" is distinct and different to my opinion of the leader.

Most of my policy opinions (maybe 80% or more) support a conservative government in office - I just don't like the guy at the helm.

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Old 05-27-2020, 06:57 PM
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OMG....LOL!!!! Dude...you just completely described YOURSELF to a Tee!
Particularly when it pertains to tree care advice.

It all makes sense now.

You despise Trump because within your subconscious, you envy him. You want to BE him.

This of course creates a classic Freudian conflict between the ego/id symbiosis.

Were there mommy issues with you growing up? Not breast fed or still suckling on the teat at 7 years of age in the cat food section of Walmart?

Inquiring minds would like to know. We eagerly await your reply.

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You should read post #94

This is the third thread you have purposefully singled me out, harassed and personally attacked me and yet you are contributing nothing to the discussion. Nothing.

This is EXACTLY why many others will not post on discussion forums. They may not feel comfortable, or feel intimidated ..... I, however, do not and I will not tolerate it.

I don't like Trudeau - he's a pandering moron, I don't like Trump, he a narcissistic compulsive liar and idiot ..... get over it.

I would suggest you are on a path towards banned camp and probably need to hot the brakes and look at the map.
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:59 PM
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Good question - In most cases YES.

In a few not so much. ( Abandonment of Kurds, Health Care, etc..) but you are not going to agree 100% on everything.

But, like I said, "policy and mandate" is distinct and different to my opinion of the leader.

Most of my policy opinions (maybe 80% or more) support a conservative government in office - I just don't like the guy at the helm .....
I concur I just dont think I am quite as strong in my opposition to the character as I think some of the policies wouldn't have gotten done unless that character was pushing them.
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Old 05-27-2020, 08:05 PM
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I concur I just dont think I am quite as strong in my opposition to the character as I think some of the policies wouldn't have gotten done unless that character was pushing them.
There is a reason lots of major companies are ran by narcissists. Fortunately for me, I don’t work for one of those!
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Old 05-27-2020, 08:28 PM
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Then don't keep adding to it. I don't say much and I realize I don't have to read all the posts but imo its 2 sided with both sides egging each other on, waiting to see who cracks first.

Really ....


Perhap's it time to get the padlock out.

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Old 05-27-2020, 08:45 PM
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Really ....


Perhap's it time to get the padlock out.

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Yes REALLY. Just calling a spade a spade. Nothing against you zip just seemed to be 2 sides to that coin. And padlock for what? The thread lol?
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:26 PM
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I admit that I did not read all the posts, but am jumping in, in the middle of the conversation.
You might not like him as a person, but because of his policies you have to like the guy and as a Christian I admit that he is or was not a saint.
I can look past that.
He is a New Yorker, rude and crude.
You hurt his feelings, he hits back, hard.
Now look at the good things.
He is the guy that asks 'Why aren't we using drugs that might work on people that are dying, what the hell do we have to lose?'
He is the guy that restricted travel from China, when everybody called him a racist.
He is the guy that gets temporary hospitals built in three days.
He is the guy that campaigned on securing the border.
Then he did shut them down in the midst of the coronavirus crisis and everybody screamed loud, but then the rest of the world followed suit.
He is the guy that gets the auto industry to built ventilators.
I could go on and on.
He is not my president, but I would take his leadership ANYTIME over our weak prime minister.
This guy works harder than any president before him and gets constantly critizized by the media and also by left leaning AO members.
When he offers hope, everybody says he is lying.
When he is straight forward, they say he should be hopeful.
A no-win situation.
Again Has he made mistakes? Yes we all do.
I wished some AO members had some more respect for this great leader.
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Old 05-27-2020, 11:24 PM
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I am describing his behaviors and personal values and traits - where did I speak to policy? They are two separate and very distinct things.
The man is the president to make policy. He is not there as window dressing.
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