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Old 09-02-2020, 02:17 PM
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My bet is that there will never be a vaccine for this particular form of the corona virus much in the same way there is no vaccine for the common cold. There is a very real chance that the so called Covid-19 will follow us around forever, albeit in a milder form. The aptly named 'herd immunity' will be our redemption and we will have to learn to live with it.

That said, I'm living in the country far from the city and throngs of people. I've never been fond of hand-shakes and I'm always washing my hands so I can't compare my experiences with yours. But watching the restlessness of the youth to get going with the experiences of life and the anxiety attached to school and workplace environments leads me to believe that without the reduction in harm by natural resistance we will become an extinct species. Not to pin it on the younger crowd; everyone is anxious to get back to it.

There are no short cuts in science and we will, with some exceptions, refuse to participate in junk science and experimentation on humans. We will need the resilience of the human physiology to help win this one.

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Old 09-02-2020, 03:16 PM
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The issue is, will we be able to buy and sell/travel/work if we don't get this vaccine?
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:03 PM
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I won’t take the vaccine. I would really like to see the chemical makeup of it though. In laymen’s terms.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:12 PM
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NOPE! Have not had a flu shot either!
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:15 PM
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I will probably go get the vaccine, the same day as I voluntarily go drop off my military style assault AR-15 at the local detachment for destruction without compensation. It's for the safety of the public. That way I won't have to go out twice, and I can reduce my carbon footprint.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:25 PM
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Him first! what a few months! Then see!
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Except we will probably get a relatively untested Chinese vaccine, that Trudeau will want to force us to take.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:10 AM
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Old 09-03-2020, 06:26 AM
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By the time it's available in quantity, if ever, it will be irrelevant.

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Old 09-03-2020, 07:50 AM
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The issue is, will we be able to buy and sell/travel/work if we don't get this vaccine?
I could easily see proof of vaccination being required for cross border travel.
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:02 AM
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Nope, have never had the flu shot either and rarely ever get sick
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:24 AM
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They skipped animal trials, which hasn't happened since I don't know when. Sounds like some of the new vaccines can affect the DNA. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

There have been a number of failures with vaccines, downplayed and buried. Don't intend on rolling the dice on taking something that's not guaranteed to protect from what's playing out to either be a bad flu, or pretty mild.

I've had a number of vaccines including for Hep A and B, but I'll really be backing away.
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:34 AM
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I could easily see proof of vaccination being required for cross border travel.
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:43 AM
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I will probably go get the vaccine, the same day as I voluntarily go drop off my military style assault AR-15 at the local detachment for destruction without compensation. It's for the safety of the public. That way I won't have to go out twice, and I can reduce my carbon footprint.
You have had some great posts lately.
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:43 AM
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They skipped animal trials, which hasn't happened since I don't know when. Sounds like some of the new vaccines can affect the DNA. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

There have been a number of failures with vaccines, downplayed and buried. Don't intend on rolling the dice on taking something that's not guaranteed to protect from what's playing out to either be a bad flu, or pretty mild.

I've had a number of vaccines including for Hep A and B, but I'll really be backing away.
A bold statement...yet untrue. Ferret, monkey and mice tests have been and are being done. So now will you take a vaccine since your worries have been dispelled with facts?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01092-3

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...-animal-tests/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/h...e-monkeys.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23J2S4


And still an interesting read.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7291183/
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:59 AM
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Old 09-03-2020, 09:13 AM
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Nope.

Cause my family and I are in the 99% of those that can beat it with our own immune system.

Just like the flu....we arent going to die from the flu...and I see the benefit of fighting it without medical intervention.

Strong immune systems need excersize.
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Old 09-03-2020, 09:31 AM
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I will consider taking this vaccine ONLY AFTER it has proven to be safe and effective.

I will not be taking any vaccine prematurely which has been rushed for political gain in a desperate attempt to spin more BS to the dancing sheep that follow the drumbeat to the Kool-Aid trough for yet another drink.

Keep in mind vaccines exasperated Polio, are safe and effective for measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, small pox, etc.. etc...

I'm guessing most of you already have taken these vaccines.

I assume none of you are/were afflicted with these disease that were immunized.

I doubt any country (even ours) would take a vaccine into the country from a foreign country (or company or anywhere for that matter) without independently testing and verifying it's effectivity and safety first - that fear is ridiculous, unrealistic and paranoid.

When it's safe and effective, I have no issue taking a vaccine.

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Old 09-03-2020, 09:31 AM
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Nope.

Cause my family and I are in the 99% of those that can beat it with our own immune system.

Just like the flu....we arent going to die from the flu...and I see the benefit of fighting it without medical intervention.

Strong immune systems need excersize.
This ^^^^
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:07 AM
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Nope.

Cause my family and I are in the 99% of those that can beat it with our own immune system.

Just like the flu....we arent going to die from the flu...and I see the benefit of fighting it without medical intervention.

Strong immune systems need excersize.
I agree

There is a video online that kept getting deleted. It was 3 or 4 doctors that specialize in immune systems. They explained how quarantining, sanitizing constantly, wearing gloves all day was bad for you. They said, when you are born the first thing you do is put your hands in your mouth, from that point on you are introducing bacteria's and building an immune system.

They went on to explain how killing all the bacteria's, sanitizing constantly etc produce a weak immune system, then you end up real sick because your body cannot fight whatever bug you end up having. They went more in depth but it all made sense, all were doctors that specialize in immune systems.
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:21 AM
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A bold statement...yet untrue. Ferret, monkey and mice tests have been and are being done. So now will you take a vaccine since your worries have been dispelled with facts?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01092-3

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...-animal-tests/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/h...e-monkeys.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23J2S4


And still an interesting read.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7291183/
Fact checking it appears that I was half wrong; thusly also half right. In full regard of available information I still won't rush out to get it. Or rush in, for that matter.

Long term effects still will not be addressed. Plenty of "perfectly safe" products have been pushed on the populace with disastrous consequence.
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:55 AM
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I agree

There is a video online that kept getting deleted. It was 3 or 4 doctors that specialize in immune systems. They explained how quarantining, sanitizing constantly, wearing gloves all day was bad for you. They said, when you are born the first thing you do is put your hands in your mouth, from that point on you are introducing bacteria's and building an immune system.

They went on to explain how killing all the bacteria's, sanitizing constantly etc produce a weak immune system, then you end up real sick because your body cannot fight whatever bug you end up having. They went more in depth but it all made sense, all were doctors that specialize in immune systems.
I'm glad you agree ...........except there is one little problem with that theory …..

Covid is a virus not a bacteria.

There is a BIG difference between bacteria and viruses - it's like comparing a apple to an airplane.

Your health, and how good of shape you are, how old you might be, may help you fight off the effects of the virus once you get it, and the lack of other health issues certainly provides less complications for you ……. but to be clear ….

Being healthy does not mean you can't be exposed to, or contract the virus, nor does it mean you are less likely to contract the virus at all. It has no bearing, that's not how viruses work.

in fact there is NO EVIDENCE that exposure and infection rates change between a young/healthy person to a person who is not.

Virus are indiscriminate in that sense.
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:23 AM
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There is a video online that kept getting deleted.. They explained how quarantining, sanitizing constantly, wearing gloves all day was bad for you. They said, when you are born the first thing you do is put your hands in your mouth, from that point on you are introducing bacteria's and building an immune system.

They went on to explain how killing all the bacteria's, sanitizing constantly etc produce a weak immune system, then you end up real sick because your body cannot fight whatever bug you end up having. They went more in depth but it all made sense, all were doctors that specialize in immune systems.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IOekS2tJxLPI/
(the video that scares youtube)
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Old 09-03-2020, 12:12 PM
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The wife and i also the father inlaw will
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Old 09-03-2020, 12:39 PM
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I'm a young western male, no one in the world cares enough about me to offer the vaccine to me. The media says society would rather see me perish so I will be selfless and let others have my shot while I sit back and watch.
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Old 09-03-2020, 12:47 PM
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Not a chance in hell. I will never stick another vaccine in my body. Do unbiased research that isn't from the CDC, WHO, or in any way linked to the bill and Melinda Gates foundation [Basically everything that is censored], and you won't be so fast to stick a needle in your arm Heaven for bid you question the cult of vaccinations!
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:08 PM
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I have not had a flu shot since 2009 and I have only had the flu once since then whereas I would get it 2-3 times a year while getting the shot. Personally I will not get a covid vaccine unless absolutely forced to. Even if you require one to travel across the border I would much rather stay here.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:32 PM
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I will get the shot when the Lieberals BALANCE the budget......so I figure I will be safe for.....a LONG LONG time.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:39 PM
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They need more human guinea pigs willing to do the trial and error process. Get in line and maybe they should offer a $1000 dollar reward for your chance to be anti infected. More money for Turdope to give away LOL
I will not line up until all have been proven no side effect, allergic reaction or long term disability. Polio and other vaccine shots are pretty much proven.
I will for some reason still get another flu shot. All it does is lesson the severity of it. As far as I know (and no expert just what I read) the only way these other diseases come back into play is from others coming to our north american hemisphere have not been immunized before hand and refuse to be. Don't forget these shots have been proven to stave off the predators. Corona shot not even close. My thoughts that's all. Dis me if you desire
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:49 PM
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I will not be getting the vaccine. It is my understanding that we will experience covid 19 differently and as a result this virus will balance itself.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:09 PM
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I see the outdoorsmen doctors and scientists are out in full force today.

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