Grim reaper fail and fail

CNP · #1 11-10-2013, 12:14 AM

Took a fox and a whitetail with Grim Reapers. They failed to open both times. Pass-through on the fox (without opening) and as shown on the wt. This is how the Grim Reaper appeared after I scooped out the backstraps. Will never use them again. These were the first mechanicals I ever used and only bought them because of very good reviews on this forum. My reviews...not so good. Use them at you own peril. Back to cut-on-contact broadheads for me. No, you can't convince me that brand X mechanical is better

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pikeslayer22 · #2 11-10-2013, 06:01 AM

I experienced the same thing with an elk no more mechanicals for me!

Lefty-Canuck · #3 11-10-2013, 06:15 AM

Did you test the broad head after you spun it on the arrow to see if the blades open easily by hand?

I have noticed with the grim reaper the ferrules and metal o-rings need to be positioned correctly for them to function correctly.

On the one that doesn't open are the blade "locked down" by the ferrule?

LC

brohymn2 · #4 11-10-2013, 07:21 AM

Rough, at least you recovered your animals

pottymouth · #5 11-10-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Did you test the broad head after you spun it on the arrow to see if the blades open easily by hand?

I have noticed with the grim reaper the ferrules and metal o-rings need to be positioned correctly for them to function correctly.

On the one that doesn't open are the blade "locked down" by the ferrule?

LC

It's exactly why I only used them for one season.... I'll stick with my tried and true, Spitfires.... Best broad head I've ever used....

I also have a bad habit of almost always putting it in the perfect spot

remmy300 · #6 11-10-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pottymouth

It's exactly why I only used them for one season.... I'll stick with my tried and true, Spitfires.... Best broad head I've ever used....

I also have a bad habit of almost always putting it in the perfect spot

"Quote..Spitfire mechanicals are failproof. I've seen dozens of deer taken with them and never seen one not open. And huge exit holes to boot. I would not trust the new the Rage mechanical. If you dont put it together properly it may not open. The spitfire doesn't need a special trick to put it together. Spin it on and shoot......LAKER"

I've shot and have seen dozens of animals from buffalo, moose to badgers shot with grim reapers. Never had a fail. I shot a coyote with a spitfire and the blades sheered off. Try shooting a spitfire into a block target twice. Within those 2 shots one or all of the blades will sheer off.

It takes 2 seconds to quickly open the grim by hand. They work perfectly fine.

CNP · #7 11-10-2013, 07:40 PM

I'm not going to make any excuses for the blades. Not going to defend something that failed. I always made sure the blades were installed correctly by opening them after I screwed them on. It wasn't two in a row.....two in total, which is enough for me to say goodbye. Not going to happen a third time. Went old-school today........Magnus two blade.

pottymouth · #8 11-11-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by remmy300

"Quote..Spitfire mechanicals are failproof. I've seen dozens of deer taken with them and never seen one not open. And huge exit holes to boot. I would not trust the new the Rage mechanical. If you dont put it together properly it may not open. The spitfire doesn't need a special trick to put it together. Spin it on and shoot......LAKER"

I've shot and have seen dozens of animals from buffalo, moose to badgers shot with grim reapers. Never had a fail. I shot a coyote with a spitfire and the blades sheered off. Try shooting a spitfire into a block target twice. Within those 2 shots one or all of the blades will sheer off.

It takes 2 seconds to quickly open the grim by hand. They work perfectly fine.

Did the Yote die?

laker · #9 11-11-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by remmy300

"Quote..Spitfire mechanicals are failproof. I've seen dozens of deer taken with them and never seen one not open. And huge exit holes to boot. I would not trust the new the Rage mechanical. If you dont put it together properly it may not open. The spitfire doesn't need a special trick to put it together. Spin it on and shoot......LAKER"

I've shot and have seen dozens of animals from buffalo, moose to badgers shot with grim reapers. Never had a fail. I shot a coyote with a spitfire and the blades sheered off. Try shooting a spitfire into a block target twice. Within those 2 shots one or all of the blades will sheer off.

It takes 2 seconds to quickly open the grim by hand. They work perfectly fine.

I dont have any experience with the grim reaper, so wont comment on them. Ive shot dozens of spitfires into my block target and never had one bend or sheer a blade. Guess, there are lemons with anything made out there.

SBE2 · #10 11-10-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pottymouth

It's exactly why I only used them for one season.... I'll stick with my tried and true, Spitfires.... Best broad head I've ever used....

I also have a bad habit of almost always putting it in the perfect spot

X2, Haha, I'm still waitin for the perfect spot though myself this year.

58thecat · #11 11-11-2013, 08:33 AM

Anything that is a gimmick to open upon impact will adventually fail and when it does you might be left with a wounded animal. Yes there are die hards out there but the odds stack up against them when using these types of broad heads. You will hear about angles upon entry, warm then out into the cold and frozen etc long story short you want the odds to stack up in your favor get ride of these gimmick broad heads. Sell them as a zombie devastation broadhead!

tthomas · #12 11-10-2013, 07:25 AM

Where did you hit that wt and how was the angle? Could you open the blades after? Did they seem easy to open or where they somehow locked?

Lefty, it does look like the blades line up with the slot?

That's not good. I thought a GrimReaper was a pretty fail proof head> Certainly a big cutting hole, and they fly like a field point, but just a bit low past 50.

KBF · #13 11-10-2013, 07:55 AM

Much like lefty says. I have found that they will open easier and smoother if you spinn the ahead onto the arrow with the blades open. They seem to seat better and more square. Also found that the retaining ring that connects the blades to each other has to have the split part of the ring directly between blades. If that opening is haning up on a blade they will not open, or at least poorly. Sorry for your luck. Something to have a peek at least. Let us know. Maybe it will help someone else.

Lefty-Canuck · #14 11-10-2013, 08:43 AM

After assembling the head to the arrow...I test each and everyone to see how they open and shut, the test involves opening and closing each blade to check for the resistance by hand....if it doesn't "snap" open and closed then something is not sitting quite right.

Like you said the retaining ring needs to sit in the middle between the blades or they do not seem to open well.

Something tells me that having two in a row fail like that means they may not have been assembled properly to the arrow.

LC

ASAT Hunter · #15 11-10-2013, 10:48 AM

Why bother with mechanicals - I almost lost an animal that way - I only use Slick tricks and they never fail - why risk that?

-CLM- · #16 11-10-2013, 01:47 PM

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Why bother with mechanicals - I almost lost an animal that way - I only use Slick tricks and they never fail - why risk that?

What he said.

mmars89 · #17 11-10-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAT Hunter

Why bother with mechanicals - I almost lost an animal that way - I only use Slick tricks and they never fail - why risk that?

X2!! I've tried NAP Killzones, awful. And Hypodermics, not much better. I've had both open mid flight resulting in a huge miss. I stick with Slick Tricks, good flight with minimal sight changes, solid cut and very tough.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!