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07-11-2017, 11:59 PM
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257 weatherby magnum
After lots of reading and studying on the 257wtby mag, I finically decided that it is the last rifle to add to the collection. But I hit a road block with many people loving the caliber but are unsatisied with the rifle of choice. I'm leaning towards a Vanguard being I havnt heard much cons about them other then being cheap but it seems like a lot of people are unhappy with the mark V. What's everyone shooting there 257 out of? And how do you like yours?
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07-12-2017, 12:49 AM
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I had one last year that was in an Accumark. Quite accurate, but also very heavy. I think a good choice would be a Vanguard Backcountry in 257 Wby.
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07-12-2017, 05:43 AM
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257 Weatherby
I have a Vanguard Backcountry in 257 and also have had an Accumark in 257. I would say the Accumark was excessively heavy and was not any more accurate than the Vanguard. In my opinion the new Vanguard 2's are 1 of the best value's for your dollar on the market. I have 3 other caliber's and they all shoot incredibly well with reloaded ammo.
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07-12-2017, 06:24 AM
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I've had Vanguards and MkV's in 257, it's a great caliber. As stated above, the MkV's are not only heavy but a lot more money and they don't shoot any better than the Vanguards, dollar for dollar the Vanguards are the best deal but it all depends on what you want. I don't care for the new MkV's much and prefer the old German and Jap guns.
I see Series II synthetic Vanguards for $599 and that's a lot of rifle for the money!
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07-12-2017, 06:31 AM
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Agree. I love my s2. Very accurate. No issues at all with it.
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07-12-2017, 06:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ORVIS
After lots of reading and studying on the 257wtby mag, I finically decided that it is the last rifle to add to the collection. But I hit a road block with many people loving the caliber but are unsatisied with the rifle of choice. I'm leaning towards a Vanguard being I havnt heard much cons about them other then being cheap but it seems like a lot of people are unhappy with the mark V. What's everyone shooting there 257 out of? And how do you like yours?
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Vanguard s2 is a real good rifle for the money. Maybe the best value out there. Only knocks might be they're on the heavier side, which I prefer, and the longer bolt throw. Accuracy is very good. 24" barrel is nice. No cheap hollow plastic stock like some of the higher priced brands. No plastic trigger guard or bolt shroud like some higher priced brands.
Handle one first is always the best advice. If it doesn't feel right in your hands it doesn't much matter what other features it has.
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07-12-2017, 07:56 AM
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I also wanted a .257 Wby. but couldn't decide on a rifle. I finally purchased a Ruger #1 in 25-06 and had it re-chambered to .257 Wby. I have been very happy with it and Ruger later brought out the #1 in this caliber.
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07-12-2017, 08:04 AM
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I had a Mark V in 257wby, and liked the cartridge, but was disappointed in the accuracy of the rifle, as well as the accuracy of my Mark V in 300wby. I rebarreled and rebedded the Mark V, and the groups shrank to less than half of what they were previously.
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07-12-2017, 08:22 AM
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There is no doubt in my mind the Vanguard will shoot as well as any other "off the shelf" rifle out there at or near that price point.
Shooting a Vanguard right beside a RC Wby there is very little difference (at least in the hands of the common/average guy off the bench). It's practically indiscernible.
I think you are leaning the right way.
I have a few WBY's and one of them is a 257 - no complaints, easy to shoot, extremely accurate and kicks less than my 06'. Only down size is it's expensive to feed.
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07-12-2017, 09:25 AM
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I've had 3 different 257 Weatherby's. Two were Vanguard 2 rifles that shot 100 grain TSX bullets sub 1/2" at 100 yards. The other was a MKV Lightweight that did the same but cost 4 times more. The only complaint I had about the vanguard was the trigger. But for around $120 you can put in a Timney and it will perform as good as a $2000 Weatherby.
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07-12-2017, 10:12 AM
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.257 Wby. Mag.
I have a .257 Weatherby Magnum in the Stainless Vanguard 2 model. My wife and kids bought it for me with my 60 th birthday. It likes the 100 grainers the best but also likes the 110 Nosler Accubonds. I use H1000 powder with Nosler brass and Fed 215 primers. One of the best values on the market today.
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07-12-2017, 10:13 AM
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I have an R93 Blaser with 2 barrels. I shoot a 7mm stw and a 257 Weatherby. I love both of them.
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07-12-2017, 11:11 AM
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roger, where are you? another w-bee freak needs your help
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07-12-2017, 11:57 AM
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Being left handed I don't have the option to buy the Vanguard. If I could I would. That said I have the Mark V Ultra Light in 257 and it shoots great. I have a few other Mark Vs in other calibers and they will all easily shoot 1/2 to 3/4 inch 3 shot groups, even the LH 460 Bee.
The Vanguards are a heck of a deal for the price, and they are lighter than most of the MKV models. I would not be afraid to buy one. Other choice is to have a Rem 700 re-barrelled. My first 257 Bee was made that way ans it was a great shooting gun.
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07-12-2017, 01:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nube
I have an R93 Blaser with 2 barrels. I shoot a 7mm stw and a 257 Weatherby. I love both of them.
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I think he was asking for thoughts on the Weatherby V2 vs similarly priced rifles not R93 Blasers.
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07-12-2017, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EZM
There is no doubt in my mind the Vanguard will shoot as well as any other "off the shelf" rifle out there at or near that price point.
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They shoot as well or better than rifles costing a lot more actually.
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07-12-2017, 11:39 PM
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I'm gonna pull the trigger on the vanguard accuguard and get a timney trigger installed. It costs less then the accuguard with the same great look and accuaracy! Thanks everyone!
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07-13-2017, 12:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 270person
I think he was asking for thoughts on the Weatherby V2 vs similarly priced rifles not R93 Blasers.
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" What's everyone shooting there 257 out of? And how do you like yours? "
Thought it was a pretty easy question.
Answer was pretty basic too
R93 Blaser and yes I like it.....
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07-13-2017, 01:41 AM
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I can't speak to the 257 but my particular S2 vanguard has been a very dependable rifle. Not picky at all about ammo. Shoots some flavors exceptionally well, but nothing poorly.....so far. Like was already mentioned, as good or better than rifles costing more. Have heard the same from other owners I know. I wouldn't hesitate buying another.
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07-13-2017, 07:22 AM
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An option is to open the bolt face , extractor and rechamber a 25-06 bolt action .Most bolt actions except Remington can easily be done . The bolt nose / extractor on a Remington create a little more work but also can be done .
Vanguard rifles are a decent rifle , and their action has been proven for many years
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07-13-2017, 07:34 AM
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I owned s number1 for a bit that had been removed-chambered from 25/06
I liked it , was accurate and fast and the number 1's fit me well.
The 257 was a fun cartridge to shoot as well .
Cat
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07-13-2017, 07:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fps plus
An option is to open the bolt face , extractor and rechamber a 25-06 bolt action .Most bolt actions except Remington can easily be done . The bolt nose / extractor on a Remington create a little more work but also can be done .
Vanguard rifles are a decent rifle , and their action has been proven for many years
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With the price of Vanguards I'm not sure why you would bother to do that unless you could do the work yourself or that maybe it just HAS to say Remington on the side of it.
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07-14-2017, 06:40 AM
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I've owned a Vanguard for about 11 years now and I have dropped a lot of critters with that rig including a bull elk. As others have stared its a little on the heavy side but once you get used to carrying it there's nothing to it, it becomes the norm. It's one of my favorite rifles.
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07-14-2017, 01:22 PM
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if I was buying one today, it would be a Vangaurd backcountry or a Lazergaurd.
Both excellent choices, just for different purposes.
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07-21-2017, 07:22 PM
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Remington 700 Action in .257 Wby would be my next gun ...
Have had three Wby Vanguards and yes they where heavy....
It was time for a change is the only reason I sold them.
Rob
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07-21-2017, 08:32 PM
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I picked up a vanguard wilderness 257 a few months back. It's a pretty decent shooter for a factory gun. 1-1.5 moa with the cheap factory loads.
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07-21-2017, 08:36 PM
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Got a 257 bee vanguard for a coyote gun. Shoots good enough for me.
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07-21-2017, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwest Alta
Got a 257 bee vanguard for a coyote gun. Shoots good enough for me.
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That's on expensive coyote hunting gun!
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07-21-2017, 09:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ORVIS
That's on expensive coyote hunting gun!
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Cheaper then the RUM's and works good. Don't have to leave the yard either.
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07-21-2017, 09:48 PM
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the Vanguard line of Weatherby rifles are actually built by Howa in Japan. they might not be flashy enough for Paris or Milan, but they are a solid well built rifle.
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