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Old 01-09-2018, 07:45 PM
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I would like to use either a 150gr Barnes ttsx or a 150gr Accubond in a 30-06 for deer, elk, and moose.

My niece would be using it. So, I want as little recoil as possible. I'm torn between these two bullets. Which would you choose?
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:05 PM
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TTSX if your are under 400m
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:08 PM
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If you’re only using one bullet I would go with the tsx. Especially considering what you are hunting. Just more dependable in a wider variety of situations than the Accubond.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:49 PM
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I was going to loads both ABs and TTSX for my rifles. Tried accubonds first as I was shooting factory loads in my 300wm,

Reloads in my 300, 270wsm I never tried the TTSX.

I shoot both in my 338-06ai

Both would be good. Maybe a 165 or 168 TTSX would a great choice as well
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:59 PM
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If recoil is the driving factor, look at the 130gr TTSX. Or download the 150gr Accubond.
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I prefer the TSX or TTSX over the Accubond.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:09 PM
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I’ve shot lots of stuff with the 150 TSX in the 30-06. Nothing wrong with that combination.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:14 PM
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If recoil is the driving factor, look at the 130gr TTSX. Or download the 150gr Accubond.
I dont think you can go wrong with the above advice. Nothing wrong with the 150 TTSX in an 06 either.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:46 PM
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I have used and loaded for both. They are excellent rounds either will be a winner in your 30-06.
With the Barnes you must keep the velocity high for good expansion and an ethical kill. With magnums this round is stellar. But I found it hard to seating a bullet for reloading because of the band's they have. The nosler accubond is less speed sensitive for good expansion. Much like the partition. I loaded the accubond with devastating results on deer and moose. If distance of your shoots is unkown. Go Accubond
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:59 PM
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Since you mention moose and elk I would also suggest going to 165 grain bullets rather than 150's
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:09 PM
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I would like to use either a 150gr Barnes ttsx or a 150gr Accubond in a 30-06 for deer, elk, and moose.

My niece would be using it. So, I want as little recoil as possible. I'm torn between these two bullets. Which would you choose?

150gr Barnes
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:29 AM
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I was going to loads both ABs and TTSX for my rifles. Tried accubonds first as I was shooting factory loads in my 300wm,

Reloads in my 300, 270wsm I never tried the TTSX.

I shoot both in my 338-06ai

Both would be good. Maybe a 165 or 168 TTSX would a great choice as well
Forgot to add that the performance at the range and on big game is why I never loaded the TTSX for my 300 or 270WSM
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Felt recoil between the 150gr to a 165?

Had always loaded 165's for the 06...just go to all around get'r'dun bullet weight for the 06
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:48 AM
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one bullet to rulee them all .... 165grn nosler partition
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:15 AM
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130 ttsx and R15 is fast, accurate, soft shooting and will handily kill any big game you'd hunt here.

Varget, 4064 would probably work if you don't have 15.
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:24 PM
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I shoot 150 Barnes TTSX in my 30-06. IMR 4350 pushing them at 3000 ft/sec.
Furthest shot WT Doe at 500 y DRT.

TSX was velocity sensitive TTSX opens much better.

Hornady SST has same BC so I am using SST for practise and TTSX for hunting.

Check this link below 150 TTSX out of 300WSM at about 1:00
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:58 AM
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I would like to use either a 150gr Barnes ttsx or a 150gr Accubond in a 30-06 for deer, elk, and moose.

My niece would be using it. So, I want as little recoil as possible. I'm torn between these two bullets. Which would you choose?
Are you hand loading or using factory ammo? If it's factory have you shot both rounds Through the gun? What was the accuracy like if you did? If one shoots 3MOA And the other one is an inch, that would answer your question off the bat. If they both shoot respectively then it doesn't really matter. Both bullets will work just fine. I wouldn't hesitate to use either on any of the game that you mentioned. I've been super impressed with the AB On deer and Moose, In smaller calibers than the 06 on moose, and I love Barnes bullets. Both have a minimum Expansion velocity of 1800 ft./s.. The Barnes may be a little closer to 2000 ft./s. How far are you realistically going to be shooting and Can She actually shoot Accurately to? 0-300 yards and more likely to be under 200? If recoil is the biggest concern and you're going to be shooting under 200 yards and using factory loaded Stuff, There are reduced hunting loads For manageable recoil. Reduced loads will dictate your range anyway. Can your niece Actually Handle shooting the 06? lol.. You can really go down the rabbit hole and overthink this incredibly fast and easily .
If she can handle shooting the 06 1-3 rounds Back to back, Then realistically it's whatever blows your hair back. If lead in your blood shot meat is a concern to you, go with the Barnes.
If shooting regular loads through the 06 is going to really make her nervous and kill the overall experience for her because she's afraid of the gun, Go with reduced loads Or an entirely different gun.
Factory reduce loads will have you looking at an entirely different bullet - Remington core loc factory loaded stuff?
If you're handloading and reducing the powder and you still want to use one of those two bullets, I would go to the Abond because IMO It is a little softer and will expand Better than the barnes.
Bottom line is you need to get out there and have her shoot, and put some lead down the pipe to see how things do shoot. Good luck!
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:11 PM
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I think the rifle will have more to do with felt recoil then whether your shooting 150’s or 165’s. In a light rifle your going to feel it if your at the range regardless imo.

I shoot 168 TTSX for everything at all ranges and am very happy with the results.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:45 PM
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I’ve shot more than one animal beyond 400 yards with Barnes bullets and they opened up just fine. And the animals dropped dead. Not sure why Barnes bullets are maligned so much. I’ve shot a lot of game with them, they have worked just fine.
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:00 PM
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I’ve shot more than one animal beyond 400 yards with Barnes bullets and they opened up just fine. And the animals dropped dead. Not sure why Barnes bullets are maligned so much. I’ve shot a lot of game with them, they have worked just fine.
Nothing wrong at all with the TSX or TTSX. They just wouldn't be considered a long range bullet in too many people's books. Both from a long range ballistic and reliability of expansion perspective. Mono metals don't top too many lists of best long range bullets.If 400+ is the distance you shoot at consistently there are better choices out there.

If distances are kept reasonable, they are one of the best bullets going.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:37 PM
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Nothing wrong at all with the TSX or TTSX. They just wouldn't be considered a long range bullet in too many people's books. Both from a long range ballistic and reliability of expansion perspective. Mono metals don't top too many lists of best long range bullets.If 400+ is the distance you shoot at consistently there are better choices out there.

If distances are kept reasonable, they are one of the best bullets going.
I think the the original question was for the best all around 150 gr bullet for his niece. (Between the Accubond and TTSX). 400 plus yards is not what I would consider ranges at which most hunters take game consistently. There are many who can perform consistently when shooting at these ranges, and many more who claim they can but in reality cannot. I am very aware that the TSX is not considered a “long range” bullet. I guess it is the definition of “long range”that is in question. I have done a little guiding for moose in B.C. Many of the hunters that show up claim to be “magic” out to unheard of distances. When it comes time to get a quick shot off at a moose that is only in the clearing for a moment or two, all the gadgetry gets in the way. It is still very valuable to be able to quickly estimate range and get the shot off.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:47 PM
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The Accubond is a good bullet but it I had to choose between the two for an all around bullet it would be the Barnes every time. (Providing they shot reasonably well out of the rifle.) But in my experience they are about as easy to get to shoot well as anything too.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:24 AM
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one bullet to rulee them all .... 165grn nosler partition
X 2.....I couldn't find a more perfect combination.....One round for everything.
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X 2.....I couldn't find a more perfect combination.....One round for everything.
It would be hard to argue that combination, for sure. But the original post was asking for opinions about two specific bullets. He has it narrowed down to two and was asking for an opinion about what would be the best option: A 150 grain
TTSX or a 150 gr Accubond.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:57 AM
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It would be hard to argue that combination, for sure. But the original post was asking for opinions about two specific bullets. He has it narrowed down to two and was asking for an opinion about what would be the best option: A 150 grain
TTSX or a 150 gr Accubond.
A fella can't go wrong with any premium bullet.
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A fella can't go wrong with any premium bullet.
I don’t think anybody is arguing that point. But back to the original question.
TTSX or Accubond? 150 gr. 30-06.
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:20 PM
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I don’t think anybody is arguing that point. But back to the original question.
TTSX or Accubond? 150 gr. 30-06.
You are right; my selection would be the 30-06, great caliber.

After a thought provoking entry on the 165 grain Nosler Partition and with my agreement to other entries, that maybe the OP was not aware of the Nosler's success, and further, my agreement on the 30-06 caliber.

Moving forward, I have no other constructive comments to this thread.

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Old 01-16-2018, 07:31 PM
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From my experience the 150 offers nothing over the 165. I can start a 165 accubond at 3k fps in a 24" barrel at a half grain under max with imr 4064. The 150's book max is 3050 fps. About fifteen years ago I was running closer to 3100 from 150's but the point I'm trying to make is they're really not gaining anything over a 165.
Now, pretending you could actually feel the increase or decrease in recoil, I would be more inclined in using a 130 at 3400 fps. That particular combination (if it can actually get started that fast) might be a good load. I've never tried them but I've eyeballed the load data and thought about it.
I've used the accubond in that load since 2006 and haven't got a bad thing to say about it. I did buy some 168 ttsx last month but it'll probably be another 10-15 years before I have a reasonable opinion of them.
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When I first got my 30:06 I tried both and the rifle did not like the AB's at all. Sprayed them all over the place. The Barnes on the other hand group very well but, more importantly are deadly on deer and moose. Excellent weight retention!
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