Single Shot Defender?

[abrigger]

Tell me if I'm crazy.

I have a old single shot 12ga. I am wondering if I would be able to fit it with a sidefolding stock/pistol grip. I would then saw the barrel off to a legal length.

An early forseen problem would be fixing the front hand grip as it would not attach like the one made for a pump.

I think it would be a great gun to have on me while I bow hunt. I would be light, small, and cheap! Alot cheaper and lighter than a new Rem 870 or Moss 500.

I think bearspray has its place, but so does a 12ga fireing slugs. And really, the likelyhood of needing a gun is slim IMO. If I could make this work though, a single shot would be all I need for emergency.

I don't have the make/model # as I'm stuck at work.

Is there such a kit?

Think this would work?

[honda450]

I bet its a single shot Cooey Model 84.

[Alberta Bigbore]

think it would be cheaper to buy a Maverick Security. or at least look for a used one on CGN.

[ABDUKNUT]

buy a handgun

[Okotokian]

A single shot doesn't make sense to me as far as a self-defence gun goes. If I needed to use one, I'd want more than one shot available! Lord knows where that first shot would be going as I crapped myself! LOL Need a follow-up!!!

[honda450]

Innovative new system from Advanced Technology Inc. that fits the Mossberg® 500/590/835 and Maverick® 88 pump shotguns, plus adapts to the Winchester® 1200/1300 and Remington® 870 pump shotguns. Collapsible, six-position buttstock with pistol grip and tactical buttpad is California compliant and made from matte black, glass-filled nylon. Pre-drilled holes for tactical shotshell holder (sold separately). Stock changes length of pull from 9-1/4” to 13-1/4”. Sling swivel stud included.


Bought this one for my dust collector 500 and a new 18.5 inch barrel.

[honda450]

Gotta be fast on the reload Okie. No problem

[abrigger]

I know alot of guys that laugh at me when I tell them I want a gun with me. Alot of people take nothing but there bow. Many others take bear spray.
I prefer bear spray and a shot gun. I think a single shot is perfect as long as you can reload fast.

The chances of ever having to use it are slim. I have ran into so many bears in the woods and they never had a clue i was near.

At least its using the "dust collecter", and it's alot cheaper than $550 on a new shotty.

I guess I will browse the used and see what I can find.

I was just wondering if anyone had done this to a single or not.

Yeah honda I guess that stock would be the only option. The folding stalk/pistol grip + 18.5in barrel would make it illegal wouldn't it?

All guns have to be 660cm dont they?

[honda450]

abrigger let me know the model of your shotgun. Couple of saws may be your answer. Very cost effective. but still have a single shot.

[.270fan]

Originally Posted by ABDUKNUT

buy a handgun

For defense against a bear ? Especially one that may be wounded by an arrow ???? I'd rather have a good shotgun with me thanks, preferably with 4 or 5 slugs in it.

On another note, going through the hassle of getting a restricted PAL and Authorization to carry permit just for bear season does not make a lot of sense to me either.

[Young Eldon]

Ya -you got a real crazy idea going here abrigger!!!

If you want to see all the things that can go wrong reloading a break action shotgun in a hurry, go watch some Cowboy Action shoots.
Unless you want to pack a pistol illegally, you can forget them, you won't get a carry permit for recreation in Alberta.

If your going to carry a bow, bear spray and a gun - at least make sure the gun is the best one for the job. A pump or leaver with all of the clout you can shoot fast approaching targets accurately with.

If ya just want to keep it cheap and challenging - you could save a lot of dollars and inconvenience by just carrying a small rock!

Sorry to sound so harsh but this idea needs to be trampled.
Good luck.

[abrigger]

Lol Eldon. I know it's out there. Now tell me what you really think, haha.

So, back to crazy talk.

The model is a Savage Arms - Stevens Model 67 Series E

She's a real beast.

[NBFK]

Just bought new remington 870 defender with 18.5" barrel and two shot tube extension letting me hold 7 2 3/4" and came with studs for swivels all for the price of $339 wholesalesports

[prospector]

I would rather have one shot than none. I think its a good idea, and the price is right, whats the big deal? I'd be tempted to just leave the stock as-is.

[Okotokian]

[QUOTE=abrigger;136117] I think a single shot is perfect as long as you can reload fast.

QUOTE]

hmmmm bear problem... I'm not shooting unless he's close, and charging... high stress situation... and you expect me to 'reload fast' if I don't stop him with the first shot? "Hang on for a second Yogi, let me get this second slug in with my trembling fingers.... AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH" (screaming and mauling continues, but you get the picture )

[abrigger]

In theory though, this could work yes?

First off there would have to be a stock that would attach properly.

Then I could saw the barrel so that the length (not including folding stock) is 660cm.

One cheap, light, compact emergency gun to pack around when bow hunting!

Does anyone know if a folding stock & pistol grip kit would fit this puppy?

[honda450]

abrigger I think you should recalculate that.

[TheClash]

Originally Posted by abrigger

In theory though, this could work yes?

First off there would have to be a stock that would attach properly.

Then I could saw the barrel so that the length (not including folding stock) is 660cm.

One cheap, light, compact emergency gun to pack around when bow hunting!

Does anyone know if a folding stock & pistol grip kit would fit this puppy?

that is one loooooooong gun...

[honda450]

abrigger I think you mean't 660mm. The shotgun must not be less than this when in a folded postion. 26 inches I believe and the barrel must not be shorter than 18.5 inches.

[abrigger]

Oh yes, 660mm not cm.

So, think there is a stock that would fit this puppy? I can't find any stocks that list the beauty as a fit (not surprised).

[Win94]

There are no aftermarket folding stocks for single shots. Guaranteed.

[honda450]

No don't think you will find an aftermarket stock for that. Hey nice flag trade you.

[Okotokian]

Oh god, this is more pain than is necessary.... restock a single shot? Just buy a cheapo synthetic Remington "Tactical" pump gun and be done with it. Get multiple shots and no headaches. But maybe that wouldn't be as much fun LOL

[duffy4]

There is a theory that the biggest advantage to having a gun or bear spray, is that it gives the person the "courage" to stand and face the bear rather than running away.

Those who run away usually get pounced on. Those who stand and face the bear (weather they shoot anything or not) usually test the bears resolve and the the situation cools off.

So "some sort of gun" or a nerf bat may indeed be better than no weapon at all.

Robin in Rocky (That said, I think a short barreled repeater with 4 or 5 slugs would give me more courage)

[Win94]

A .45-70 Guidegun stuffed with 405 grain hard casts launched at 1900 fps let me stream fish with a little less anxiety in bear country for sure.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by duffy4

Robin in Rocky (That said, I think a short barreled repeater with 4 or 5 slugs would give me more courage)

I'm with you, If I'm in the grouse woods I always carry some slugs. Of course if I see a bear I'd need time to get the #6 out of my gun and get the slugs in LOL

[chain2]

ABrigger
The brother and I did that mod to a coooey 12g SS, It kicked back and pinch the web of skin [thumb] under the action break lever. Which kinda slows the reload time and hurt a fur bit....but your a stubborn man and it is a cool project so check out a tacticle Pig nose. It can allow the stock and 1911 pistol grips among a host of AR parts...that's where I'd start....do it It will be a neat rig...vent rib...rail mounts Hell I might do it after I see yours...chain

here's one scroll down for stuff to bolt on...
http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/inde...roducts_id=407

[abrigger]

Yeah Chain. That is how I see it, is if I could do it, it would be cool. TO have this bad ass single shot with a pistol grip & folding stock!

It will come down to $$ really. If I can do it for $100 or so then I will. If it gets over $200 then I may have to consider just buying some used moss 500 for $300 and being done with it.

Gotta get home from work first! 8 days & counting.

[abrigger]

Great link BTW chain, thanks. This is what I was looking for, a way to make it work.

Here is a flag for you honda!

[honda450]

Thanks abrigger.