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Pillar and bedding recommends
Thinking about changing up the stock on an older rifle I just purchased and having it properly set up. I've refinished a few old wood stocks with great results but don't want to tackle a first time bedding job myself. Nobby Uno has worked this gun so I'd like to hand it off to someone who will take care of it but it's going to get hunted so I'm not looking for a showpiece. Just competent work.
Would appreciate your thoughts on who to source a decent synthetic/maybe laminate sporter style stock from, Boyds?? and a good shop to get it into for the bedding, etc. I'd prefer to stay in Alberta. Former AO member gitrdun seemed to do a lot of this type of work so if he did any for you I'd like to hear how things turned out.
Thanks in advance.
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04-07-2019, 01:22 AM
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Boyds makes great laminated or walnut stocks for the price but they are not light. If you want a good synthetic check out MCRS and Wildcat. Both are Canadian and both make excellent stocks. Wildcat makes a great light synthetic, on par with a McMillan but quite a bit cheaper given the current exchange rate. He will also bed the rifle to the stock and paint it if you want. That said, bedding a stock is not very hard, any competent hobbyist can do it easily. I have taught a large number of people how to do them and they all picked it up very quickly.
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04-07-2019, 06:21 AM
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What Dean said. Not hard to do for yourself. It can seem a little daunting, but watch a half dozen videos on youtube to get the gist of what you are trying to do. Have a plan of the what and why of the procedure. Make sure you have release agent in all the right places, there is not much that can go wrong. Just DO IT as Nike says.
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04-07-2019, 06:44 AM
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I’ve used brownell’s bedding epoxy kits. Bed it yourself it’s super easy to do!
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04-07-2019, 08:08 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions gentleman. Great info from all. The Canadian stock manufacturers are especially interesting because I'd pretty much resigned myself to sourcing from Macmillan or HS Precision, if synthetic option, and my next question was going to be which of the two would be the best option.
I'm starting to think a lighter synthetic version is the way to go as this will already be a fairly heavy rifle and the last thing I want to do is lug a 12 pound gun around at my age. Will stay with a lighter scope as well, likely in the 2-7 range, being that it's chambered in a cartridge that won't be shot much past 250 yds and will be primarily used for larger game hunting.
I've seen some p**s poor bedding jobs and watched a few You Boob vids and got a little apprehensive about the process. Maybe for no reason per your comments. I was more concerned with anything I go to not being a perfect match (obviously), and having to do the cutting and changes required to make it one.
I really enjoyed doing the stock refinishing jobs and didn't cut corners there. Hand rubbed oil finishes and around 30 hours on each and the process made me fall back in love with those rifles. Can't bear to sell them now after the work put into each, which might be a bad thing.
Thanks again gents.
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04-07-2019, 08:14 AM
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MCRS Tactical will build a nice composite stock comparable in weight to wood.
I got a few from him and do the bedding with the pillars myself.
If you need a hand send a PM
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04-07-2019, 08:26 AM
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A professional bedding job is worth more than what you'll pay.
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04-07-2019, 08:55 AM
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A professional bedding job is worth more than what you'll pay.
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For some that is true. Others are perfectly capable themselves.
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04-07-2019, 09:06 AM
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For some that is true. Others are perfectly capable themselves.
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Professional work is just that. Do it yourselfers won't see the difference.
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04-07-2019, 09:13 AM
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Professional work is just that. Do it yourselfers won't see the difference.
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I’m not unaware of professional work. I have a rifle in my safe that was bedded by an individual who has likely bedded more rifles than anyone on this continent (John Hanlan). It is extremely well done. I have also had “professional” jobs that needed fixing. Now days, I bed all my own and don’t regret that approach.
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04-07-2019, 09:25 AM
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I’m not unaware of professional work. I have a rifle in my safe that was bedded by an individual who has likely bedded more rifles than anyone on this continent (John Hanlan). It is extremely well done. I have also had “professional” jobs that needed fixing. Now days, I bed all my own and don’t regret that approach.
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I also have rifles in my safe. Almost all done professionally. A few not. Likely done by do it yourselfers like yourself. Proud of their work but that's where it ends.
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04-07-2019, 09:28 AM
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I also have rifles in my safe. Almost all done professionally. A few not. Likely done by do it yourselfers like yourself. Proud of their work but that's where it ends.
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What constitutes a professional?
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04-07-2019, 09:32 AM
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What constitutes a professional?
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If you have to ask that you're definitely not approaching one.
One who makes their living on accurate rifles. And has done so for a long time.
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04-07-2019, 09:34 AM
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A professional bedding job is worth more than what you'll pay.
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Why do you say that when you have no idea what I'd pay? That's kind of why I asked in the first place because I want it to be something I'm really happy with.
Doubtful I'll be doing a lot of 1000 yd steel shooting with a 35 Whelen but being a G Flach and N Uno touched rifle I want it to be something I'm proud of.
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04-07-2019, 09:36 AM
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Why do you say that when you have no idea what I'd pay? That's kind of why I asked in the first place because I want it to be something I'm really happy with.
Doubtful I'll be doing a lot of 1000 yd steel shooting with a 35 Whelen but being a G Flach and N Uno touched rifle I want it to be something I'm proud of.
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I don't care what you'll pay. I know how much I pay for a professional job. And what it's worth to me.
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04-07-2019, 09:46 AM
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I don't care what you'll pay. I know how much I pay for a professional job. And what it's worth to me.
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Great attitude bud. Thanks for your contributions to my ask.
I get you 100%. You're special. Everyone else isn't. Happy shooting big guy and by all means, continue consulting professionals whenever possible.
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Great attitude bud. Thanks for your contributions to my ask.
I get you 100%. You're special. Everyone else isn't. Happy shooting big guy.
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Good luck on the bedding job. You're smart getting it done properly rather than learning on a rifle you obviously value.
I'm definitely not special. But have learned the value of getting a job done right the first time.
Thanks for the well wishes!
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04-07-2019, 01:03 PM
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Some guys should get the job done professionally.
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04-07-2019, 01:42 PM
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A professional bedding job is worth more than what you'll pay.
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Agreed.
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04-07-2019, 02:00 PM
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The truth.
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04-07-2019, 07:28 PM
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I made a mistake earlier in this thread and responded improperly to one of Deer Hunters replies. I completely misinterpreted what he'd said as a smart a** remark and responded in kind.
I realized my error a couple of hours later and sent him an apology via pm. He was good enough to brush it off which I really appreciate.
My apologies to everyone else contributing to the thread as well.
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I appreciate that some guys like to do things themselves. And also appreciate a nice rifle with an equally nice professional pillar bedding job
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04-07-2019, 10:05 PM
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I appreciate that some guys like to do things themselves. And also appreciate a nice rifle with an equally nice professional pillar bedding job
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Are those examples of " professional" bedding jobs?
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04-07-2019, 10:08 PM
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Yes.
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04-07-2019, 10:39 PM
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Yes.
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Ok
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04-08-2019, 07:44 AM
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04-08-2019, 07:49 AM
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04-08-2019, 08:52 AM
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I appreciate that some guys like to do things themselves. And also appreciate a nice rifle with an equally nice professional pillar bedding job
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Where are the pillars?
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I’d recommend that you give this guy a call. He’s done 2 stocks for me. Nice work. Get him to build you the stock and do the pillar bedding and finishing yourself. As was said above, watch some vids and away you go. Save some $$$ and have the pride of doing at least some of the work yourself.
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04-08-2019, 10:36 AM
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Where are the pillars?
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They're there.
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