Favorite fly rods???

[BBT]

7 1/2 3wt T&T with a Hardy Angel featherweight 2/3

[lannie]

Originally Posted by BBT

7 1/2 3wt T&T with a Hardy Angel featherweight 2/3

T&T are very fine rods!
I have the exact same rod and it is one of my favorites.
Also have a T&T 8'2"#2 paradigm that is a beauty.
Beautiful casting tiny flies with lightweight rods.
Sage is the master of marketing though and I have wondered if some of the other manufacturers like T&T were as skillful how they would have done.

[MtnGiant]

Originally Posted by lannie

T&T are very fine rods!
I have the exact same rod and it is one of my favorites.
Also have a T&T 8'2"#2 paradigm that is a beauty.
Beautiful casting tiny flies with lightweight rods.
Sage is the master of marketing though and I have wondered if some of the other manufacturers like T&T were as skillful how they would have done.

I think one of the main reasons Sage got so popular is because of their lifetime warranty. Now most quality manufacturers offer it and are easier to deal with. About 20yrs ago I broke a Sage and it took 3 mnths to get it back. Kinda ticked me off cause the salmon were in full swing and had to use my backup rod.
Was Sage the 1st company to offer lifetime warranty?
Does anyone know?

[brown trout]

with Sage's warranty, you'll always get the same rod back. They are made in-house, so they will just manufacture the blank needed; if you break your Z, you'll get another Z back, even if it is 15 years from now (or so I'm told by the company, anyway). That's a benefit to North American made rods vs Asian made ones. While I have nothing against an Asian rod (I actually use Hardy and Greys rods all the time, and an Echo 3, too), if the series gets discontinued, you'll get the replacement model closest to the one you purchased, which could be either better or worse. With NA name, you'll have you're rod forever.

The fact that the replacements must be made (to the exact correct size of the rod you have --not every rod piece fits the others in exactly the same way) before they can replace a broken section can explain the 3 month wait, and I think a 1.5-3 month wait is pretty common with most companies, other than some like TFO, which replace rods so often they have a huge backlog of them sitting in storage. Just food for though. I'd happily fish a decent backup for a couple months, and be sure my replacement rod is exactly what I'd wanted when I bought my rod in the first place.

Nick

[lannie]

Thanks Brown Trout that was great.
Sage does have a great warranty and will go over and above what they promise. I broke the top section of a 8 wt. sage one in half last month and was in quite the bind for a rod. I emailed sage at night and when i woke up in the morning they offered to fed ex a loaner to me as there was no dealer in the country. In my email i said i broke it and needed the closest dealer, nothing more. That's great service!

[MtnGiant]

Originally Posted by brown trout

with Sage's warranty, you'll always get the same rod back. They are made in-house, so they will just manufacture the blank needed; if you break your Z, you'll get another Z back, even if it is 15 years from now (or so I'm told by the company, anyway). That's a benefit to North American made rods vs Asian made ones. While I have nothing against an Asian rod (I actually use Hardy and Greys rods all the time, and an Echo 3, too), if the series gets discontinued, you'll get the replacement model closest to the one you purchased, which could be either better or worse. With NA name, you'll have you're rod forever.

The fact that the replacements must be made (to the exact correct size of the rod you have --not every rod piece fits the others in exactly the same way) before they can replace a broken section can explain the 3 month wait, and I think a 1.5-3 month wait is pretty common with most companies, other than some like TFO, which replace rods so often they have a huge backlog of them sitting in storage. Just food for though. I'd happily fish a decent backup for a couple months, and be sure my replacement rod is exactly what I'd wanted when I bought my rod in the first place.

Nick

I spose you make a good arguement.
Yes I got the same rod back and still have it today with no problems.
And they did appologize for the delay as they were very busy at the time they said.
I also have 2 TFO fly rods that I am happy with as well.
Didnt know that TFO replaced rods on a regular basis?
I have only heard good things about TFO.
Good quality for the price and have made it on the top 10 best fly rods list.

[flyguyd]

Originally Posted by mtngiant

Was Sage the 1st company to offer lifetime warranty?
Does anyone know?

The first company to offer an unconditional lifetime warranty was Scott flyrods

[braggadoe]

what about everyone's least favourite rod?? all the companies make good/great rods depending on the action a person prefers.

myself, i'm not a fan of the TCR series of rods sage made a few years ago. see alot of them for sale on e-bay. so it seems alot of other people don't like them either.seemed like a handheld telephone pole and not much fun to fish.IMO


T&T double handed rods break far too often.IMO.


Winston's"derek brown" special is the worst double handed rod ever made. also see alot of them forsale on abay.

[MtnGiant]

Originally Posted by braggadoe

what about everyone's least favourite rod?? all the companies make good/great rods depending on the action a person prefers.

myself, i'm not a fan of the TCR series of rods sage made a few years ago. see alot of them for sale on e-bay. so it seems alot of other people don't like them either.seemed like a handheld telephone pole and not much fun to fish.IMO


T&T double handed rods break far too often.IMO.


Winston's"derek brown" special is the worst double handed rod ever made. also see alot of them forsale on abay.

We dont talk about least favorite....its depressing (lil joke)

I noticed not very much enthusiasm of Hardy rods n reels.
I wonder why?
I'm lookin at gettn an older Hardey reel (made in UK) prolly just because Im half English.... but don't know that much about them.
Anyone care to elaborate?

[CanAlta]

I can't speak for Hardy but I do have some Greys stuff.

I have a few Grey's rods: 10' 6wt XF2, and a 9' 8wt XF2 Carnivore. Both awesome rods for midrange price. I also have four Greys reels: GX700 in 4/5/6 and 6/7/8, and the GX500 in 4/5/6/ and 6/7/8. Both models are cassette type reels that have fixed the problems of earlier models ie crap drag systems and breaking cassettes trying to get them of the reel.

I like stillwaters and Hardy, and especially Greys, have alot of rods and reels that are perfect for lakes- longer rods and reels that can let you change lines very quickly. The Limeys seem to love their loch-style/stillwater fishing.

[Lornce]

Originally Posted by mtngiant

I noticed not very much enthusiasm of Hardy rods n reels.
I wonder why?
I'm lookin at gettn an older Hardey reel (made in UK) prolly just because Im half English.... but don't know that much about them.
Anyone care to elaborate?

Love Hardy's, have a few, some aren't cheap though.