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Why does it often feel like I'm the only person in the room who likes Trump?
I mean Canadians sit there and complain every way they can about Trump and then take a stop at the food bank because they voted in Trudeau. I don't get it...
Here's to Kevin O'leary. Make Canada great again
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01-21-2017, 03:12 PM
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So what do you like about him
You see him as good for us?
I'm reserving judgement.
But if he goes all protectionism on our trade relations.... I doubt you'll be singing his praises.
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01-21-2017, 03:16 PM
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Oleary is not Trump. Never will be. He wants the contacts and power that goes with the PMO.
But hey don't listen to me, I was wrong about Trudeau and Notley.
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01-21-2017, 03:17 PM
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Why does it often feel like I'm the only person in the room who likes Trump?
It's because you are hanging around with the wrong crowd. 
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01-21-2017, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
You see him as good for us?
I'm reserving judgement.
But if he goes all protectionism on our trade relations.... I doubt you'll be singing his praises.
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Are we talking Trump or O'leary?
I'm not sure how Trump will fair for Canada. Especially with Trudeau in office. However Trump is bold and unafraid to ruffle feathers. And I believe he will do what is best for America's best interest. And even if that means alienating Canada so be it. It shouldn't be his job to worry about the effects of other Countries. A concept that Trudeau really doesn't get. JT would rather spend billions of dollars making himself look good on a world stage at the expense of all Canadians. Trump would rather dump billions of dollars into the American economy and best interest at the risk of looking like an ass hole on the world stage.
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01-21-2017, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfeman
I mean Canadians sit there and complain every way they can about Trump and then take a stop at the food bank because they voted in Trudeau. I don't get it...
Here's to Kevin O'leary. Make Canada great again
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Well if you get a paycheck from anything that ultimately ends up in the USA then you may be the next one at the food bank. Maybe then you'll get it. Enjoy your kraft dinner
http://www.producer.com/2017/01/buy-...for-canadians/
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01-21-2017, 03:49 PM
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The point I am making is how does anyone think they have the right to judge any American for voting in Trump after they just finished voting in Trudeau. Plus my freezer is full of deer and rabbits. But I do love KD
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01-21-2017, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfeman
Are we talking Trump or O'leary?
I'm not sure how Trump will fair for Canada. Especially with Trudeau in office. However Trump is bold and unafraid to ruffle feathers. And I believe he will do what is best for America's best interest. And even if that means alienating Canada so be it. It shouldn't be his job to worry about the effects of other Countries. A concept that Trudeau really doesn't get. JT would rather spend billions of dollars making himself look good on a world stage at the expense of all Canadians. Trump would rather dump billions of dollars into the American economy and best interest at the risk of looking like an ass hole on the world stage.
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Trump will do what is best for wealthy american families to think otherwise is purely naive.
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01-21-2017, 04:00 PM
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Ask yourself if Russia and Putin are friend or foe to the United States. Then ask why Russia is so happy to see Trump as leader. Russia sees this as a huge opportunity to expand their dominance at the expense of the US. Shrink the American economy inwards, reduce trade, pull out of NATO, cut ties to EU, don't support military allies, and so on.
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01-21-2017, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfeman
The point I am making is how does anyone think they have the right to judge any American for voting in Trump after they just finished voting in Trudeau. Plus my freezer is full of deer and rabbits. But I do love KD
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There is nothing wrong with voting for someone that you think will be good for your country. Far from it. But as a country that has basically designed itself as a supplier of goods to that country we should be scared. People can blame Trudeau or Notley all they want but the same exports were done under Harper and Klein and for one international partner to say that they are going to tear up agreements that industries have been designed for around for decades should scare people. Trump is known to be erratic in his decisions and industry likes stability. Why would any outfit sink cash into any project knowing that it could get its legs kicked out from under them. All it takes is North Dakota to complain that it's got the ability to produce more oil and that there is no need for Alberta oil and voila- Big tax on oil- after all "America first". Alberta thinks it's been through a bit of a rough patch lately? Look for the slow times to continue and things could get a LOT worse.....
The same people that are giving high fives over Trump getting in are going to be gob smacked if they get a pink slip because the US puts a 25% tax on our oil, grain or wood products.
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01-21-2017, 04:19 PM
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This will solve itself.
Either every one will start to think like you or you will see him for what he is and change your mind. Problem solved.
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01-21-2017, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott h
There is nothing wrong with voting for someone that you think will be good for your country. Far from it. But as a country that has basically designed itself as a supplier of goods to that country we should be scared. People can blame Trudeau or Notley all they want but the same exports were done under Harper and Klein and for one international partner to say that they are going to tear up agreements that industries have been designed for around for decades should scare people. Trump is known to be erratic in his decisions and industry likes stability. Why would any outfit sink cash into any project knowing that it could get its legs kicked out from under them. All it takes is North Dakota to complain that it's got the ability to produce more oil and that there is no need for Alberta oil and voila- Big tax on oil- after all "America first". Alberta thinks it's been through a bit of a rough patch lately? Look for the slow times to continue and things could get a LOT worse.....
The same people that are giving high fives over Trump getting in are going to be gob smacked if they get a pink slip because the US puts a 25% tax on our oil, grain or wood products.
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There was no Trump when there was a Harper or a Klein. We should be blaming Notley and Trudeau for making a bad situation worse with this carbon BS. We should have a protectionist for a PM instead of a wet noodle.
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01-21-2017, 04:34 PM
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Trump will do what is best for wealthy american families to think otherwise is purely naive.
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If you watch this video from his campaign, it sounds as though he is going to do the exact opposite of what you're saying. That is my interpretation on it anyways.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...47270408794535
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01-21-2017, 04:55 PM
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There was no Trump when there was a Harper or a Klein. We should be blaming Notley and Trudeau for making a bad situation worse with this carbon BS. We should have a protectionist for a PM instead of a wet noodle.
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Of course there was no Trump then but there was freedom to sell oil without any penalty. Without that the oil sands would not have been developed. That's what has changed. Now if they only want there own you can basically shut it down.
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01-21-2017, 05:04 PM
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Of course there was no Trump then but there was freedom to sell oil without any penalty. Without that the oil sands would not have been developed. That's what has changed. Now if they only want there own you can basically shut it down.
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You obviously believe we should only deal with the US market. Anyone that knows business knows you need to have diversity, and if we could be more competitive with other countries we wouldn't need to worry about one country. Go ahead and put all your eggs in one basket and see what happens when the bottom falls out of it.
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01-21-2017, 05:12 PM
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You obviously believe we should only deal with the US market. Anyone that knows business knows you need to have diversity, and if we could be more competitive with other countries we wouldn't need to worry about one country. Go ahead and put all your eggs in one basket and see what happens when the bottom falls out of it.
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Of course we need to diversify !!!!! We should have done it many years ago! But we haven't !!!!!
So maybe turning off the oil tap to the US will be a good thing come to think of it. It will give the country some incentive to get it's act together. Just going to be a TON of guys without jobs for a few years in the meantime.
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01-21-2017, 05:32 PM
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Oleary is not Trump. Never will be. He wants the contacts and power that goes with the PMO.
But hey don't listen to me, I was wrong about Trudeau and Notley.
Oh wait>
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01-21-2017, 05:45 PM
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Double Standard?
Why is it that people criticize Trudeau ( I detest him) for not putting Canada first and then criticize Trump for doing what we want Trudeau to do !!
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01-21-2017, 05:46 PM
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Trump Protestors
A lot of liberal hate for Trump
Simple truth is a lot more Americans voted for him than against him
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01-21-2017, 05:57 PM
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Why does it often feel like I'm the only person in the room who likes Trump?
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It's because you are hanging around with the feminist crowd
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01-21-2017, 06:27 PM
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I'd like to know what our current government has done, or even our government in the last 20 years, that has people so wrapped around their fingers, that they honestly believe a decline in our economy is due to what a foreign country does to benefit its citizens? Trump doesn't give a crap about whether his actions effect Canadians, Mexicans, Spanish, or the Japanese, as long as it benefits American citizens, people who voted for him and the county he lives in. Our leaders have basically been on cruise control since I've been alive, keep saying the same thing, keep doing the same thing, which is basically nothing, fiddle with the little things like gun control, speed limits, which units system to use, etc. but the big issues, first nations, costs spiraling out of control for health care and education, major reliance on resources in large parts of the country, lack of a NEP, etc. remain untouched.
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I'd like to know what our current government has done, or even our government in the last 20 years, that has people so wrapped around their fingers, that they honestly believe a decline in our economy is due to what a foreign country does to benefit its citizens? Trump doesn't give a crap about whether his actions effect Canadians, Mexicans, Spanish, or the Japanese, as long as it benefits American citizens, people who voted for him and the county he lives in. Our leaders have basically been on cruise control since I've been alive, keep saying the same thing, keep doing the same thing, which is basically nothing, fiddle with the little things like gun control, speed limits, which units system to use, etc. but the big issues, first nations, costs spiraling out of control for health care and education, major reliance on resources in large parts of the country, lack of a NEP, etc. remain untouched.
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well said, like grandpa Gold used say "if it ain't broke don't fix it!" Over one billion was thrown away on the gun registry, Canadians biggest enemy is their own government! If they bankrupt our economy we will all be hooped!
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Fixed it fer ya........
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Haha
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01-21-2017, 07:21 PM
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Of course there was no Trump then but there was freedom to sell oil without any penalty. Without that the oil sands would not have been developed. That's what has changed. Now if they only want there own you can basically shut it down.
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Or find new markets? With new pipelines?
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Stop world turning left, this is more important.
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The US does not produce enough oil to be self sufficient, they are so far as I can tell from reading, are in a deficiency of about 9,000,000 barrels a day. Who do you think that they would rather buy oil from? We need to work out an amicable position with them for resource development. They are not capable of supplying all of their needs and will need to trade. We need to be at the forefront. Relax, everything will work out.
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Of course there was no Trump then but there was freedom to sell oil without any penalty. Without that the oil sands would not have been developed. That's what has changed. Now if they only want there own you can basically shut it down.
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Talk in the Trump administration about turning N. America into an energy super power. Combined resources of Canada, US and Mexico would rival OPEC??
A successful Trump Administration could be good for Canada. He believes in free and fair trade as do many other Americans.
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I read somewhere he has over 500 businesses all over the world. Do you think he is going to support policy that will effect the profitability of those businesses? Maybe he will put a 35% import tax on all of his Trump branded products?  I'll believe that when I see it.
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