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Old 01-20-2017, 01:45 PM
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Some great discussion on this thread - very informative.

Thanks for keeping it civil, everyone!
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Old 01-20-2017, 06:18 PM
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Real and agreed issues Canadians should be talking about.

It only appears that we are ruled by the Queen. We had that made very clear by a GG who pointed out pretty much what you pointed out. The PMO had to take her aside and explain that isn't how it works and that it was best she just follow the orders of the person and office who really selected and appointed her.


The very real morass of constitutional problems that confuses even GG's, is by design. It enables Canadians to be ruled by telling different stories to different Canadians, in different contexts, giving special status and money to select groups and individuals while telling the majority there is equality, freedom and good government for all.

Manning, Harper and others have been elected to change it, or even improve it just a little and have completely failed. Far too much profit being made by the powerful to allow any real change.

Which is a shame because the goal was to become independent, to rise in the rank of Nations, not continue Royal rule or to become a protectorate.
I've spent a lot of time studying that morass. You're right that it's deliberate. However, if one was to understand it, one might find a great deal of immunity in there as well.... You know... getting to say, "Leave me alone, and here's why...."
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Old 01-20-2017, 06:24 PM
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I'd say sorry but obviously like these discussions so I say thank you.

One of the flaws in the idea of 13 siblings is that no one in the Canadian Confederation thinks like that. Ontario and Quebec see themselves as parents and all others children (colonies or regions) that should be working the land making the parents ever richer.

The demise of the Parents or Federal government is the demise of Ontario and Quebec, who really are Canada.

That said your question gets people thinking, talking, and that's a good thing. There is support for making Canada better, better for Alberta, better for all but not in Ottawa who want as little change as possible. In that case those siblings should start looking out for themselves. There comes a time when the fruit ripens, the children leave home, the baby bird must fly.......
It's very interesting that you phrased it like that. Ontario and Quebec see themselves as the parents.

You're right. They act like the parents from old roman times.

Have a read of the section called 'patria potestas'.

patria potestas by wolverine00089, on Flickr

Doesn't that sound like how they act, and how the government acts??
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