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08-29-2019, 06:25 PM
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Petty Trespass Act - Reminder
As we close in on opening seasons, remind your friends and coworkers that private land DOES NOT need to be posted. You risk a trespassing charge if you don’t get permission, this isn’t the 80’s and 90’s anymore. Common misunderstanding amongst the road warriors out there.
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08-29-2019, 06:59 PM
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Good luck I think the people that hunt like that don't care about rules anyway
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08-29-2019, 07:00 PM
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And my black angus are not moose. So don't ask for permission. And if I do give you permission don't be a creep and text me nudes. That's what one guy on here did. I won't name names. Sick bastard
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08-29-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by trophybook
And my black angus are not moose. So don't ask for permission. And if I do give you permission don't be a creep and text me nudes. That's what one guy on here did. I won't name names. Sick bastard
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Was it cat?? :P
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08-29-2019, 07:19 PM
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Thank you for joining the forum to share this public service announcement.
We now return to our regularly scheduled hunting excitement.
Kindest of regards.
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08-29-2019, 07:27 PM
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Any hunter that has to be reminded of this should liquidate all hunting rifles immediately.
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08-29-2019, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 501outdoors
As we close in on opening seasons, remind your friends and coworkers that private land DOES NOT need to be posted. You risk a trespassing charge if you don’t get permission, this isn’t the 80’s and 90’s anymore. Common misunderstanding amongst the road warriors out there.
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Private land never did have to be posted , even long prior to the 80'S. Not being posted never did mean hunting was allowed on any private land. It may have seemed that was the case because there was a lot more Crown Land available, a lot fewer trespassers,and a lot more landowners that hadn't been screwed over by tresspassers back then.
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08-29-2019, 07:57 PM
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I don’t think that trespassing and hunting is a Petty Trespass Act charge anymore. It’s now a charge under the Wildlife Act and the penalties are much more severe (ie. loss of hunting privileges, etc).
I’m too lazy to check it out right now.
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08-29-2019, 08:37 PM
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Also, posted land CAN be hunted by those with permission.
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08-29-2019, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NewGuard84
Thank you for joining the forum to share this public service announcement.
We now return to our regularly scheduled hunting excitement.
Kindest of regards.
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To misquote Paul Harvey, let's hear the rest of the story.
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08-29-2019, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Salavee
Private land never did have to be posted , even long prior to the 80'S. Not being posted never did mean hunting was allowed on any private land. It may have seemed that was the case because there was a lot more Crown Land available, a lot fewer trespassers,and a lot more landowners that hadn't been screwed over by tresspassers back then.
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Easterners tend to believe their rules from back home apply here... that’s where a few of these issues come from.
LC
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08-29-2019, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 270person
Any hunter that has to be reminded of this should liquidate all hunting rifles immediately.
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So bow hunters are exempt from trespassing??? Why lay all the blame at the feet of those with firearms???
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08-29-2019, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterDave
I don’t think that trespassing and hunting is a Petty Trespass Act charge anymore. It’s now a charge under the Wildlife Act and the penalties are much more severe (ie. loss of hunting privileges, etc).
I’m too lazy to check it out right now.
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It depends , if trespassing or shooting onto occupied land, it is a violation under the Wildlife Act. If you actually harvest game while trespassing without permission, you can be charged with illegally possessing Wildlife, which is also a violation under the Wildlife Act.
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08-29-2019, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
It depends , if trespassing or shooting onto occupied land, it is a violation under the Wildlife Act. If you actually harvest game while trespassing without permission, you can be charged with illegally possessing Wildlife, which is also a violation under the Wildlife Act.
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The point that I’m trying to make is that now a days you get charged under the Wildlife Act as opposed to The Petty Trespass Act that the Op mentioned. Under The Petty Trespass Act a trespassing hunter would get an approx $300 ticket and he’d be on his way with his shot critter if he had one. The penalties under The Wildlife Act are much more severe and may include confiscation of rifles (etc), a suspension of hunting privileges and steeper fines.
For example:
“Penalties for a hunter caught trespassing can involve suspensions as well as the confiscation of hunting gear including rifles and vehicles. Fines can range in worst-case scenarios up to $50,000, he said.”
https://www.sundreroundup.ca/article...ssing-20171114
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08-30-2019, 03:44 AM
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Just saying.
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Originally Posted by 501outdoors
As we close in on opening seasons, remind your friends and coworkers that private land DOES NOT need to be posted. You risk a trespassing charge if you don’t get permission, this isn’t the 80’s and 90’s anymore. Common misunderstanding amongst the road warriors out there.
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GREAT FIRST POST it's only illegal if you get caught.
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08-30-2019, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by last minute
GREAT FIRST POST it's only illegal if you get caught.
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Sadly way too many people think like this....which is why this isn't funny
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08-30-2019, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fordtruckin
So bow hunters are exempt from trespassing??? Why lay all the blame at the feet of those with firearms???
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Hmmm. Maybe I put it that way due to firearm bearers being the VAST majority and the OP mentioning road hunters?
Can't say as I know a lot of road hunting bow hunters. Maybe in Montana.
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08-30-2019, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 35 whelen
Good luck I think the people that hunt like that don't care about rules anyway
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Exactly.....and welcome to the OP.....now it will start.
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08-30-2019, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Easterners tend to believe their rules from back home apply here... that’s where a few of these issues come from.
LC
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Newfies?......or Q-beccers.....? East of Saskatchewan....dam them all
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08-30-2019, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Easterners tend to believe their rules from back home apply here... that’s where a few of these issues come from.
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Not sure why you would say that ?
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08-30-2019, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by novatradesmen
Not sure why you would say that ?
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https://globalnews.ca/news/4715690/f...nting-in-sask/
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08-30-2019, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by novatradesmen
Not sure why you would say that ?
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Because it’s true?
There’s been many people on here arguing that non posted land you don’t need permission, and posted land cannot be hunted, even by the landowner himself.
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08-30-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple
Because it’s true?
There’s been many people on here arguing that non posted land you don’t need permission, and posted land cannot be hunted, even by the landowner himself.
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These people should loose their licence and not be able to posses a weapon.
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08-30-2019, 09:27 AM
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I plan on hunting crown leases where I cannot get charged with trespassing.
Thank-you very much.
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08-30-2019, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple
Because it’s true?
There’s been many people on here arguing that non posted land you don’t need permission, and posted land cannot be hunted, even by the landowner himself.
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I have had people with no clue, tell me that I was poaching, because I was hunting on land posted "No Hunting" . Some of the same idiots threatened to report me for using an atv before noon on private land.
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08-30-2019, 10:16 AM
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So everybody that was born east of where gets painted with the same brush? That seems like quite a generalization to make.
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08-30-2019, 10:28 AM
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it's a big paint brush
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Originally Posted by novatradesmen
So everybody that was born east of where gets painted with the same brush? That seems like quite a generalization to make.
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IME- predominately maritimers, who then get offended that their laws from back east don't apply in Alberta. Seen it lots.
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08-30-2019, 11:09 AM
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While we’re at it and the seasons are just starting who’s got lots of private land I can hunt on this year? Preferably with alfalfa, maybe some oats and apples spread out, maybe some watering holes and salt licks around. Once submitted I will go through each parcel and decide what I like. Please include your last 3 years harvest numbers and antler scores as well and no b.s either.
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08-30-2019, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 270person
Can't say as I know a lot of road hunting bow hunters. Maybe in Montana.
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Maybe you need to get out more? Seen it lots here. Guys will drive up and down the roads at dusk with someone in the back of the truck with bow in hand waiting for the mule deer to cross the road in front of the truck. Even caught one guy a few years back riding in the back of a mini van, seats removed, with the door wide open trying to kill the deer feeding in the ditch.
Lots of road bow hunters here every fall...
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08-30-2019, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
I plan on hunting crown leases where I cannot get charged with trespassing.
Thank-you very much.
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Deer Hunter I’m a bit confused here, which crown leases can you hunt without being charged with trespassing for there are rules to follow as far as access goes?
You have told people before to “just go and you you will be good “ and then in a different post you stated that there were rules fir both the lease holders and the users.
Can you explain what you meant?
Cat
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