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Old 12-03-2019, 03:23 PM
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This thread is great! Rookie here and there’s some great tips so far. Keep ‘em coming!
I put the first round of bait down on Sunday and rebaiting on Thursday. Am I good to put my snares in or should I wait? I’m baiting in an area where there were some existing coyote tracks and trails but I’m not sure if I’m getting in there too quick. Thoughts?
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Old 12-03-2019, 04:01 PM
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Depends on the population in the area but if your bait is disappearing when you restock chances are after a week or so the coyotes will have some well established packed down trails. In my experience if you hit em hard before those trails are established you will educate the coyotes before you can pull em all out of the area. Just my opinion.
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Old 12-03-2019, 04:52 PM
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I’ve often wondered would some sort of dog food work? Carrying a half sack of dog food is easier than trudging through the snow with carcasses. Perhaps dog food combined with carcasses
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Old 12-03-2019, 04:57 PM
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I’ve often wondered would some sort of dog food work? Carrying a half sack of dog food is easier than trudging through the snow with carcasses. Perhaps dog food combined with carcasses
Nope, I tried it last year and the coyotes could care less about the dry dog food. I emptied bags that quickly disappeared from the birds and also made 5 gallon dog food cicles. Total waste of time.
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This thread is great! Rookie here and there’s some great tips so far. Keep ‘em coming!
I put the first round of bait down on Sunday and rebaiting on Thursday. Am I good to put my snares in or should I wait? I’m baiting in an area where there were some existing coyote tracks and trails but I’m not sure if I’m getting in there too quick. Thoughts?
I like to set on sign as opposed to carpet bombing my sites with snares......lol. Doing it that way As long as you have tracks to set on you’re good to go. If more trails show up you can always add more snares as required. I baited a new site last Thursday and I set 14 snares on it today. That doesn’t sound like a lot of snares but I expect that each snare has the best chance of catching a coyote. I picked today to hang snares because there’s 1-3 cms of snow tonight and tomorrow to cover up my tracks and scent. Good luck and have fun!
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:09 PM
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Nope, I tried it last year and the coyotes could care less about the dry dog food. I emptied bags that quickly disappeared from the birds and also made 5 gallon dog food cicles. Total waste of time.
good to know. curiosity satisfied
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:21 PM
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Posters here have given some great tips.
Avoid Deer trails as already said.

No word of insult but if you are starting consider only using swiveled snares to give a stray dog a chance if they get into it, check your snares in a timely manner. Be sure to let any property owners know you if you are snaring to keep their dogs in, it doesn't hurt to let the neighbors know, dogs wander. Consider avoiding power/ram snares until you perfect your game

Most property owners will be more than happy to accommodate you if they see you are a good guy and considerate of their situation.

Dye your snares and Leave em outdoors or in a woodshop away from any non natural scent.

And final tip, Never set snares too close to the your bait pile itself, their noses will be just above the ground leading them in and they are all the more likely to duck just under your set.

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Old 12-03-2019, 09:50 PM
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^^^^^You’re a Trapper?^^^^^
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:04 PM
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^^^^^You’re a Trapper?^^^^^
I am a responsible trapper, or at least I try my very best to be. Limited to private personal (landowner) land for many decades though since I have only been doing it on ranch only few quarters to do it on but it was a childhood passion just as shooting is. Don't get me wrong by any means, I have nothing against trapping when its done properly, its the people that do it irresponsibly and in the wrong areas without permission that make us all look bad.
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:09 PM
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I have never set on bait. Not for Coyotes. We don't have enough here to make it worth the effort. Wolf trappers use bait piles but we didn't have the wolf numbers either when I was trapping.

I caught all my Coyote with dirt hole sets and trail snare sets. both are more effective where numbers are as low as they are here.

When I was trapping we also didn't have many Deer and thus not a lot of road kill. The bait most available to us was beaver carcasses from trapping and they were more valuable as Martin and Fisher bait.

I suspect that trail sets without bait are a lot harder to make work then bait pile sets. I know that scent was a major concern. We had to do a lot to consistently catch with such sets.

I always boiled and waxed my snares and traps. They were then hung in a evergreen for a month before setting them out.

Next I would approach the trail from the downwind side only, and after making the set cover my tracks as I backed out. Checking was always done from as far back as possible.

If possible I would only make sets just ahead of snow storm so new snow would cover any sign I missed.

Last but not least, I used drags exclusively. I never anchored my sets. That might work if set were checked every 24 hours but I had a registered line and only checked every 48 hours. Enough time for most Coyotes to pull out of or break off an anchored set.

Of course that was before a lot of the changes trappers have to deal with now. Offset jaws were a new thing back then and padded jaws were just catching on. I used standard long spring traps and home made snares without swivels. Both were legal then and what most trappers used.

I did have some coil spring traps and one under-spring trap but mostly I used long spring victor traps.

Traps were used at the beginning of the season and snares once the snow got deep.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:47 AM
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I don't have proper trapping license or gear so unfortunately can't help you out with traps but if there is a large population of coyotes I sure wouldn't mind heading out for a trip or 2 and doing some call stands to shoot some of them!
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I am a responsible trapper, or at least I try my very best to be. Limited to private personal (landowner) land for many decades though since I have only been doing it on ranch only few quarters to do it on but it was a childhood passion just as shooting is. Don't get me wrong by any means, I have nothing against trapping when its done properly, its the people that do it irresponsibly and in the wrong areas without permission that make us all look bad.
Do you see the issue with these two statements?

I don’t know what your end game is but there are lots of red flags in your posts.
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:21 AM
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Do you see the issue with these two statements?

I don’t know what your end game is but there are lots of red flags in your posts.
I don't see the issue at all. Clearly telling you I don't have any trapping lines or license so all I can do is trap legally on my own land with landowners permit, and hunt on others with permission.

Why are you trying to create problems where there are none Dave? Only agenda I see is someone trolling every post I make and that someone is you Dave? Are you intoxicated or did you not read what you just quoted? What gives with you... trying to give a guy tips here and you come in trolling the post again in some sort of personal vendetta?

You want to know what I see. someone that needs to spend more time in the field and less time going through someone else posts and going on with the virtue signaling like Trudeau...
I guess your post count shows your priorities keyboard warrior. This isn't a thread for your conspiracy theories, get out there and get some sun and shooting in boy.. leave that keyboard alone. Don't worry about my "end game" ...That should be yours.
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:50 AM
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I don't see the issue at all. Clearly telling you I don't have any trapping lines or license so all I can do is trap legally on my own land with landowners permit, and hunt on others with permission.

Why are you trying to create problems this is common knowledge? Only agenda I see is someone trolling every post I make and that someone is you Dave? what gives?
Your posts do raise questions. Like, how do you trap without proper gear.

And, if you are a trapper you would know that you can't sell fur without either a resident license or a registered line license.
You also can not set snares for Coyote without either a Resident license or a registered license.

I wonder how you come to the conclusion that you are a trapper if all you are doing is hunting Coyotes and perhaps snaring rabbits as a land owner.

I'm not saying you aren't a trapper, but what you have said thus far would leave the impression you are not.

And by the way, there is no such thing as a land owner trapping license.

As a land owner you can trap a few species not classed as fur bearing and a couple of species of fur bearing animals such as beaver and Coyote for damage control,without a license, but you can't sell the hides without a trapping license.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:02 AM
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Your posts do raise questions. Like, how do you trap without proper gear.

And, if you are a trapper you would know that you can't sell fur without either a resident license or a registered line license.
You also can not set snares for Coyote without either a Resident license or a registered license.

I wonder how you come to the conclusion that you are a trapper if all you are doing is hunting Coyotes and perhaps snaring rabbits as a land owner.

I'm not saying you aren't a trapper, but what you have said thus far would leave the impression you are not.
While I have nothing to justify to you will set this straight. Land owner, trapping to prevent predation on own land , not selling anything. Even though In Alberta it would be legal to. Told the guy straight up I don't have proper gear to set up trapline in his area or legal permit to do so why is this an issue I have 4 traps right now ffs, its enough for my property. Snared and trapped as a kid all till now and in my late 40's so yes I can give a few tips, not claiming to be a professional trapper or have a trapline or anything.

Don't see where your hate is coming from.. this is supposed to be a thread to help poeple and instead you come on here as some sort of virtue signaler in this callout society trying to be cool or something? I don't get it. Sorry if trapping coyotes and shooting rabbits on my own land doesn't put me in your league.. let that be a queue not to reply to my posts again. Just don't fall off your high horse you might get hurt... it's a long way down from there.

FYI. ongoing post about sales.. educate yourself before you type. Please post there if you have some relevant FACTUAL input and the community we can all benefit from the facts. Lets get real information out there instead of this infighting insulting bull****.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=373183
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:41 AM
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While I have nothing to justify to you will set this straight. Land owner, trapping to prevent predation on own land , not selling anything. Even though In Alberta it would be legal to. Told the guy straight up I don't have proper gear to set up trapline in his area or legal permit to do so why is this an issue I have 4 traps right now ffs, its enough for my property. Snared and trapped as a kid all till now and in my late 40's so yes I can give a few tips, not claiming to be a professional trapper or have a trapline or anything.

Don't see where your hate is coming from.. this is supposed to be a thread to help poeple and instead you come on here as some sort of virtue signaler in this callout society trying to be cool or something? I don't get it. Sorry if trapping coyotes and shooting rabbits on my own land doesn't put me in your league.. let that be a queue not to reply to my posts again. Just don't fall off your high horse you might get hurt... it's a long way down from there.

FYI. ongoing post about sales.. educate yourself before you type. Please post there if you have some relevant FACTUAL input and the community we can all benefit from the facts. Lets get real information out there instead of this infighting insulting bull****.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=373183
Your response tells me all I need to know.

You won't find much support here for your stance. Claiming to be something you aren't will not go over well here.

There is no shame in not knowing, but there is in claiming things that aren't true and then coping an attitude to try to cover your inexperience.

You aren't fooling anyone and you aren't intimidating anyone either.

You can still salvage your reputation here, but this is not the way to do it.
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:24 AM
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Your response tells me all I need to know.

You won't find much support here for your stance. Claiming to be something you aren't will not go over well here.

There is no shame in not knowing, but there is in claiming things that aren't true and then coping an attitude to try to cover your inexperience.

You aren't fooling anyone and you aren't intimidating anyone either.

You can still salvage your reputation here, but this is not the way to do it.
So.. you take it upon yourself to claim to be all knowing and speak for everyone in this community and I am the one that need to salvage my reputation.. as I told you before, I never claimed to be anything. I have nothing to prove to you. If anyone takes the time to read what I have posted without your perversion of it they can see that for themselves, all they need do is scroll up.

You speak for yourself, many posters are here actually to talk about things that help each other instead of bashing others and drag them down. you sure seems like the self appointed spokesperson everyone here gets and nobody wants, along with your socialist idols quotes.

Edit * I still don't see any facts posted to that thread if you are so sure about yourself go post something useful we can all see instead of slander and harassment here.
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:37 AM
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So.. you take it upon yourself to claim to be all knowing and speak for everyone in this community and I am the one that need to salvage my reputation.. as I told you before, I have nothing to prove to you. If anyone takes the time to read what I have posted without your perversion of it they can see that for themselves.

You speak for yourself, many posters are here actually to talk about things that help each other instead of bashing others and drag them down. you sure seems like the self appointed spokesperson everyone here gets and nobody wants, along with your socialist idols quotes.

Edit * I still don't see any facts posted to that thread if you are so sure about yourself go post something useful we can all see instead of slander here.
Sure thing Chris, do carry on.


Your mistake was coming on both guns blazing when I said nothing against you. It's an all too familiar pattern with you.
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Sure thing Chris, do carry on.


Your mistake was coming on both guns blazing when I said nothing against you. It's an all too familiar pattern with you.
No idea what you are on about.. you have some sort of delusion or depressive issues this forum can't help you with man? Do you need someone to sit down with you tonight.. are you OK? Send me a msg if you need someone to talk to, Jesus loves you.
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Foonus not sure if I read you thread right, but it sound like you have been trapping coyotes on you own private property without a trappers licence.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:27 PM
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Not sure if you picked up the part about not having a trapline and being limited to personal land, that implied resident license. Its been a few years since I have done anything aside from shooting them though, getting older I prefer positive target identification.

Someone actually has a recent post here looking for a trapper and flat out told them I wasn't set up to trap or snare them now, but offered to shoot them for him instead!
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Not sure if you picked up the part about not having a trapline and being limited to personal land, that implied resident license. Its been a few years since I have done anything aside from shooting them though, getting older I prefer positive target identification.

Someone actually has a recent post here looking for a trapper and flat out told them I wasn't set up to trap or snare them now, but offered to shoot them for him instead!
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On a lighter side.
As a kid/teen in Niagara falls Ont 34 years ago, one of my first jobs was at an amusement park. It was just down the road from the Woodstream factory. No Wood stream at the time made tackle boxes,fishing poles and animal traps. Victor brand. I would go scrap metal diving late at night after work-1100 pm. I know. Tresspassing, stealing metal/offcuts. I was 14, anyway. I would fill my gym bag with trap bodies,pans,springs,chains. I had to build a lot of leg holds,single and double spring, jump traps, stop loss traps, conibear, 110,220,330’s, even managed some power foot snares with snares. These guys threw out everything.
So I perfected my trapping as a youngster. Took the Ontario trappers course at 16,Raccoon, opposum, muskrat and then the skunk. I’m not gonna lie, I practiced before I took my licence course.
Caught my first skunk in a foothold. I was out on my dirt bike, converse basket ball shoes, jeans, you know 14 year old stuff. Anyway, it wasn’t dead. So I put a snare around it to finish it off. I didnt think it would spray. Well turns out. I pulled it out of the trap, it was caught by a toe. It was now partially snared and aggressively spraying me. Snare broke or came undone and skunk ran off. I was sprayed, my school shoes were sprayed, my bike was sprayed, helmet. Went home and my mother wouldnt let me in the house. Threw out all my stinky clothes, yelled at me, grounded me, made me shower a hundred times it seamed, then dad came home. It was a day to remember.
Anyway, thats what I learned all those years ago.
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Thanks for that tullfan, made me laugh on a tough day!
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:57 PM
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This one:
You quoted it but missed the point, you do understand that IMPLIED is past tense vocabulary right? As in did not trap or snare the past few years so have no need to buy license to do. Literally the next line after that tells you this.

Of the 2 separate threads you pulled these quotes from, one post is telling the guy what I did based on past experience, the other is a is a reply to a thread where clearly tell them what I can and can't do for them this year.
"Its been a few years since I have done anything aside from shooting them"
Can you not understand this?


If you pick and pull quotes from various treads to try prove something out of context with no background behind them this is the trouble you run into.

This is the last I will be replying to anyone's accusations about this, I don't have anything to justify or prove to you or anyone else here, nor the time or energy to waste trying.

The moderator has already been on here telling people to stop with the attacks, you can stop your witch hunt.
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Newbie question but where does the "whammie" come into to play? And what does it do?
I think there is a new term for these in the trapping world to get away from the word "Whammie". I think they are just snare supports for the world to ease the mind of non trappers.

Anyhow... they also provide the snare to set. Snug, not to tight tubing on the support wire helps the snare work properly, head goes through and the snare lock is allowed to fall down the loop and tighten before the snare falls off of the support wire. Helps make better catches. You don't want the snare to fall off of the support wire to soon you want the lock to fall down your loop first.

You need good tubing that does not get to hard and stays flexible in the cold.

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