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01-13-2020, 09:38 PM
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Bottledog
A well trained hunting dog is an absolute joy to hunt with.They are however very expensive as far as money and time.Not everyone can afford.And many apt dwellers,cant keep pets.To tramp around a pheasant release site without a dog is has a low percentage of success.Enter the bottle dog,200 ft of light cord with a 500ml bottle attached ever 3m,some stones inserted.Attached to your gun belt,of two hunters,and you have an effective way to harvest pheasant.A light pump the ideal gun.For safety reasons,you dont need to hunt with a loaded gun,plenty of time to load when the pheasant flushes.There are now many using this method,with good success.
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01-13-2020, 09:46 PM
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Never heard of a bottle dog before. What do you feed them and where are the closest bottle dog breeders. Yours look to be from the champion bloodlines “Aquafina”.
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01-13-2020, 09:52 PM
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It might work right after a release , when the birds are still in the open areas, but after the first few dogs comb the release area, the surviving birds move into the brush. We find at least 75% of our birds in the brush, or the cattails, where this idea would not be practical. As for a pump action being the ideal pheasant shotgun, I much prefer two barrels.
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01-14-2020, 04:33 AM
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I couldnt imagine dragging 200ft of cord with bottles attached through brush country myself
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01-14-2020, 07:39 AM
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Coyoteman you already expounded on this two years ago , I also read about this in a backwoods magazine over two years ago .
No thanks, not my ldea of hunting birds and have no desire to even attempt it where I hunt.
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01-14-2020, 07:50 AM
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This would work great after a grasshopper release on a freshly mowed soccer field. Thanks for the idea!
Now if I could only decide what gun to bring...
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01-14-2020, 07:52 AM
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01-14-2020, 08:05 AM
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All else aside, I don't like the idea of swinging a loaded gun while tied to someone else.
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01-14-2020, 08:27 AM
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This seems just sooooo wrong. Tying ropes around my waist to another hunter's waist while we have guns. Give your head a shake man. Go to Costco if you need the meat that bad.
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01-14-2020, 09:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sns2
This seems just sooooo wrong. Tying ropes around my waist to another hunter's waist while we have guns. Give your head a shake man. Go to Costco if you need the meat that bad.
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Haha yep not my idea of a fun day. Make friends with someone with a dog lol.
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01-14-2020, 09:38 AM
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Quote:
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This seems just sooooo wrong. Tying ropes around my waist to another hunter's waist while we have guns. Give your head a shake man. Go to Costco if you need the meat that bad.
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Another one of Coyoteman's doozies...
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01-14-2020, 09:53 AM
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So is the idea to flush a bird out in between you and another hunter?
I foresee this being a problem.
A bird flushes, you take aim and yell "DUCK!!"
Your buddy pauses and thinks "I thought we were hunting pheasants?"
And the pause is enough to either let the bird get away, or let your buddy get a real close look at your pattern.
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01-14-2020, 09:58 AM
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Shooting Xs
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I said I wouldn't..but it's like a train wreck..lol
Once again ,fellow AOr's,we enter(insert Theme music)...
The Coyoteman Zone.
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01-14-2020, 10:40 AM
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This warmed me greatly on a very cold day from such a hearty laugh. Thanks CM for another true gem.
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01-14-2020, 11:27 AM
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This warmed me greatly on a very cold day from such a hearty laugh. Thanks CM for another true gem.
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01-14-2020, 12:01 PM
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Don’t ever change Coyoteman. You’re threads are incredible entertainment. Ain’t that why we here in the first place?!
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01-14-2020, 12:25 PM
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Sounds like a very effective way to push the bush also, would like to watch someone try
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01-14-2020, 01:23 PM
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And I thought Coyotes were smart....
A new trick for the old dog.
Add a 4' section of rebar to the mix, and lose one hunter.
Stake the rebar and tie on the rope.
If you can't figure out the rest, go home.
I expect to see this covered on the blog, with credit.
I really hope this catches on.
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01-17-2020, 06:36 PM
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Bottledog
The bottle dog,is very light,durable, and surpriseing snag free--But best of all very effective.One group had four pheasants in less than an hour.This method not for everywhere,Works well in release sites--Hopewell,frank lake,Namaka.As far as safety,The birds dont usually flush,until within a couple of ft plenty of time to load a gun.When hunting,With partners, dogs,Total awareness of there location,go without saying.To get the word out,and better demonstate this very effective way to harvest pheasant,I plan to make a video.
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01-18-2020, 05:36 PM
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I saw a couple of guys hunting like this this fall. They could only work the open grassy areas, not the cover where birds were most likely to be, they took up a huge amount of space for 2 hunters, which may have been part of the reason they were getting uncomfortably close to other hunters...and they looked ridiculous.
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01-18-2020, 05:43 PM
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When is the video out
And hear I was looking to see if it was April 1st already......
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01-18-2020, 06:04 PM
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I saw a couple of guys hunting like this this fall. They could only work the open grassy areas, not the cover where birds were most likely to be, they took up a huge amount of space for 2 hunters, which may have been part of the reason they were getting uncomfortably close to other hunters...and they looked ridiculous.
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I am just relieved it is being done in your area, and not where I hunt.
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01-18-2020, 06:29 PM
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This would be a site to see. HA!
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01-18-2020, 07:34 PM
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I showed my oldest daughter that is twelve an just passed her hunters Ed this fall her response
Was why would anybody be that dumb to try that
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01-20-2020, 11:24 AM
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Ive seen worse ideas and could see it working especially in grassy sloughs. I don't see a safety issue with it as the bird would flush away from you and wouldn't really be any different then a dog that was between you and the other hunter
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01-20-2020, 12:01 PM
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Ive seen worse ideas and could see it working especially in grassy sloughs. I don't see a safety issue with it as the bird would flush away from you and wouldn't really be any different then a dog that was between you and the other hunter
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The safety issue is one guy swinging his loaded gun, and at the same time, the other guy taking a step to get a better shooting position and pulling on the rope. Imagine swinging on a bird and having someone give a pull on your belt, when you aren't expecting it.
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01-20-2020, 02:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swifthunter
Ive seen worse ideas and could see it working especially in grassy sloughs. I don't see a safety issue with it as the bird would flush away from you and wouldn't really be any different then a dog that was between you and the other hunter
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I’ve hunted birds but not lots, but when I have it has been over some good dogs. I’d think a good dog should be out just in front of the hunter. Not between them.
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01-20-2020, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elkhunter11
The safety issue is one guy swinging his loaded gun, and at the same time, the other guy taking a step to get a better shooting position and pulling on the rope. Imagine swinging on a bird and having someone give a pull on your belt, when you aren't expecting it.
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Keep slack on the rope and problem solved
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01-20-2020, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KBF
I’ve hunted birds but not lots, but when I have it has been over some good dogs. I’d think a good dog should be out just in front of the hunter. Not between them.
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Ideally yes but get into thick cover or cattails and they can pop up from anywhere. Its not hard to keep track of where your hunting partners are. Plus the fact that birds don't always get up and fly straight in one direction. For someone with out the option of hunting over dogs why not try something else
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01-20-2020, 03:24 PM
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What if you duct tape the bottles to the tails of cats? If the cats go too fast, just add more stones to the bottles. When the cats get going too slow, just remove some stones. One sack of cats would be good for several hunters.
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