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05-14-2023, 10:44 PM
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Draistl will never win cup
As I said all year the Oilers will never win a cup with McDavid and Draisaitl. Offense in regular season means nothing again 5×5 can not score.Drasatil -4 again tonight can not play defensive send him down the road.Do not blame the goalie,defense ,or referees,time to admit after all these years two so called superstars are regular season powerplay merchants.
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05-14-2023, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by munsterx
As I said all year the Oilers will never win a cup with McDavid and Draisaitl. Offense in regular season means nothing again 5×5 can not score.Drasatil -4 again tonight can not play defensive send him down the road.Do not blame the goalie,defense ,or referees,time to admit after all these years two so called superstars are regular season powerplay merchants.
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05-14-2023, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by munsterx
As I said all year the Oilers will never win a cup with McDavid and Draisaitl. Offense in regular season means nothing again 5×5 can not score.Drasatil -4 again tonight can not play defensive send him down the road.Do not blame the goalie,defense ,or referees,time to admit after all these years two so called superstars are regular season powerplay merchants.
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You're absolutely right. No team in the NHL would even consider picking one of those bums up. They're terrible, can't skate, can't shoot, can't pass and are horrible play makers.
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05-14-2023, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by munsterx
As I said all year the Oilers will never win a cup with McDavid and Draisaitl. Offense in regular season means nothing again 5×5 can not score.Drasatil -4 again tonight can not play defensive send him down the road.Do not blame the goalie,defense ,or referees,time to admit after all these years two so called superstars are regular season powerplay merchants.
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So trade Draisaitl for someone that isn't a huge defensive liability, you may get a good defenseman or a good goaltender for him.
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05-14-2023, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
So trade Draisaitl for someone that isn't a huge defensive liability, you may get a good defenseman or a good goaltender for him.
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Vancouver Canucks are happy to announce Tyler Meyers has been traded for Leon Draisaitl . 5
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05-15-2023, 12:01 AM
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Like I said, you can’t win with no goaltending. On this note, not sure why Campbell wasn’t given a chance, but they probably know better.
Moreover, while scoring most goals in the league, Oils were 2nd in giveaways and 20th in penalty kill during the regular season. Again, 17th in goals against. Better teams bounced in the first round.
Frankly, all this team can do well is score goals. But it is also 2 guys who scored more than third of all regular season goals. And again, it is the same two guys who scored nearly half of the goals in the playoffs. I mean they are very good, but you still need the D and goaltending. And stop giving away the pack - this can drive a guy nuts watching, haha.
Edit: same thing happened with the Leafs (among other things) and they were the third in giveaways in the regular season, I believe. The Devils had games with something like 19 giveaways to Carolina’s 3, or whatever those numbers were. You can win games with that, but it is very tough to win the series.
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05-15-2023, 07:10 AM
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Vancouver Canucks are happy to announce Tyler Meyers has been traded for Leon Draisaitl . 5
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Has there ever been a player to put up as many points as Draisaitl, and yet have a plus/minus as low? It doesn't matter how many goals he scores, if he costs the team even more goals.
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05-15-2023, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Has there ever been a player to put up as many points as Draisaitl, and yet have a plus/minus as low? It doesn't matter how many goals he scores, if he costs the team even more goals.
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Yet every single team in the league would gladly pay him 8 mill a season to play on their team……(probably a lot more than 8).
It’s almost like those hockey clubs know something about hockey that you don’t…..
Maybe you could bless one of those clubs and be some sort of an advisor?
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05-15-2023, 07:43 AM
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Yet every single team in the league would gladly pay him 8 mill a season to play on their team……(probably a lot more than 8).
It’s almost like those hockey clubs know something about hockey that you don’t…..
Maybe you could bless one of those clubs and be some sort of an advisor?
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Let's just leave all opinion aside, and look at the facts, even with McDavid as well, Edmonton lost the series. So while having the top two points leaders is desirable, it isn't winning their team Stanley Cups, which is the ultimate goal.
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05-15-2023, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Let's just leave all opinion aside, and look at the facts, even with McDavid as well, Edmonton lost the series. So while having the top two points leaders is desirable, it isn't winning their team Stanley Cups, which is the ultimate goal.
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Yes it is. Now imagine surrounding Mcdavid and Drai with great goaltending, great defence, and 3 other lines that contribute.
They’d hoist lord Stanley every year.
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05-15-2023, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
Yet every single team in the league would gladly pay him 8 mill a season to play on their team……(probably a lot more than 8).
It’s almost like those hockey clubs know something about hockey that you don’t…..
Maybe you could bless one of those clubs and be some sort of an advisor?
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By paying so much for two players a team can’t afford no support. Wont win cups with out a balanced team.
Once the contracts come up for renewal it only gets worst. The next set of contracts is were a team gets ripped off
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05-15-2023, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Supergrit
By paying so much for two players a team can’t afford no support. Wont win cups with out a balanced team.
Once the contracts come up for renewal it only gets worst. The next set of contracts is were a team gets ripped off
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When contracts are up yes…….. right now they are both a couple of the best contracts going.
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05-15-2023, 07:41 AM
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The oilers looked bad most of the series when puck was in their end , three or four guys chasing it in corner, poor positional hockey, intercepted clearing passes and they struggled big time to get it out. LV defense was superior, won the battles in their end and forwarded puck so they could break out faster , be in Oilers kitchen fast and cycle , shoot and score. Combined with the goaltending better team all round. Good thing there is such a thing as power plays or Oilers woulda being sunk first round. The one positive was watching McDavid when he kicked his jets in and magic he does with puck....no disputing that , he is a hell of a player.
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05-15-2023, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Has there ever been a player to put up as many points as Draisaitl, and yet have a plus/minus as low? It doesn't matter how many goals he scores, if he costs the team even more goals.
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I would be curious of all the points he gets how many were with Mcdavid. Would he do anywhere near as good without Mcdavid either feeding him or scoring with an assist going to him.
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05-15-2023, 08:30 AM
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I thought that the Ekholm trade moved the Oilers from being a bubble team to a team with a decent chance.
Woodcroft's handling of the goaltending played a role. Maybe Campbell should have played a couple of games to let Skinner get settled.
I like the off season almost as much as the playoffs. This year will be interesting with the cap not rising as much as the general managers would want. As always, teams that have players on value contracts tend to have the most success. Generally those will be guys on ELCs and players who are in the 'restricted' category.
For the Oilers, Bouchard's contract will be an interesting one to watch.
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05-15-2023, 08:34 AM
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I would be curious of all the points he gets how many were with Mcdavid. Would he do anywhere near as good without Mcdavid either feeding him or scoring with an assist going to him.
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I wonder if McDavid would do as good without Dri feeding him or scoring with an assist going to him?
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05-14-2023, 10:51 PM
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Whoopsie!! Where did everyone go? Thankfully that is over Wow anymore of Louie Debrusk on the Oilers will make a sane sports minded man Puke!! Can you imagine if Jake Debrusk played for the Oilers!!
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05-14-2023, 10:56 PM
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Whoopsie!! Where did everyone go? Thankfully that is over Wow anymore of Louie Debrusk on the Oilers will make a sane sports minded man Puke!! Can you imagine if Jake Debrusk played for the Oilers!!
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