270 win vs elk

[fps plus]

Well my oldest son worked extremely hard and was rewarded with a 5 point bull.
Can one imagine that it was taken with a 270 Winchester and 130 nosler ballistic tip . Bullet passed thru at 250 yards . I guess the elk didn’t get the memo to wear his steel vest . One would be lead to believe it can’t be done with all the hype on “modern”bullets

[Dick284]

OMG, how does your son live with himself using such frangible bullets on a critter like an elk?






Kudos to your boy. BTW!

I was witness to the immediate after effects of a 5x5 getting dumped by a 7-08 with 139 SST’s just the other day.
Whodathunkit?
Missed the near side shoulder but got through that sides shoulder meat, busted a rib, and lodged in the far side shoulder(the butcher will find it).
Died where it stood too.

[cornuteo]

The .270 has taken 7 Elk for me... 130 grain partitian for my first and then TTSX 130 g Barnes for the rest. Being confident with your firearm is key. Practice so that when the opportunity presents itself you are 100% confident in your abilities.
Congrats and enjoy you well deserved reward.

[270person]

I'm having a hard time believing you. Everyone knows the 270 is an antiquated cartridge incapable of taking game larger than whitetail deer.

If your son had been a real sportsman he'd have used a 6.5 Bleedsmore and waited for that elk to get to 600yds for the same results.

In all seriousness, 4 Yukon grizzlies taken to date by a guide/friend of mine, all with 270. Maybe Mr O'Connor wasn't off his nut afterall.

[Redneck Tommy]

Shot my elk at a 528 yards this year. 7mm-08 140 Sierra pro-hunt through the lungs passed through and I was expecting it to bounce off

[fps plus]

I think the 270 win is a pretty reasonable choice as cartridge for a flat shooting , decent energy , relatively light recoil. Seems pretty vanilla these days , but tough to beat .

[JCart]

Originally Posted by fps plus

I think the 270 win is a pretty reasonable choice as cartridge for a flat shooting , decent energy , relatively light recoil. Seems pretty vanilla these days , but tough to beat .

Congrats on the Elk!

Yup when you compare ballistics at reasonable distances, felt recoil, knock down power, tough to beat the venerable 270.
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[Howard Hutchinson]

Big congrats to your Son! Love hearing these stories...Think he'd let the old man post a pic or 2 of his prize?

[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by fps plus

I think the 270 win is a pretty reasonable choice as cartridge for a flat shooting , decent energy , relatively light recoil. Seems pretty vanilla these days , but tough to beat .

IMO it strikes a balance between those three variables that is very hard to equal, let alone beat.

I've never taken an elk with one, but have killed a half dozen moose without issue, many were one shot kills and none of them went more than 40 yards. I just use 150 grain corelocts and get good results.

[Flight01]

Originally Posted by Redneck Tommy

Shot my elk at a 528 yards this year. 7mm-08 140 Sierra pro-hunt through the lungs passed through and I was expecting it to bounce off

“That's why I say hey man, nice shot
What a good shot man”

Love the 7-08, so underrated .

[35 whelen]

Originally Posted by 270person

I'm having a hard time believing you. Everyone knows the 270 is an antiquated cartridge incapable of taking game larger than whitetail deer.

If your son had been a real sportsman he'd have used a 6.5 Bleedsmore and waited for that elk to get to 600yds for the same results.

In all seriousness, 4 Yukon grizzlies taken to date by a guide/friend of mine, all with 270. Maybe Mr O'Connor wasn't off his nut afterall.

YEP have had one in the small arsenal since the 1970s,killed Bear Deer elk caribou moose .Still my #1 gun.

[JBE]

I have taken 6 elk with my 270 husky using 130 gr over the years. I never knew it wasn't he right caliber or bullet weight to use until I read it on the internet

[kujoseto]

Fake news. Everyone knows a 270 cannot kill elk.

Congrats

[stob]

Had most of them like many of you..currently playing with a 7mmrem...initial loads with no pressure signs are:

175gr NP.......3100fps
160grNP.........3250 fps
140gr ttsx......3325fps
139gr lrx.........3325fps

All these loads are .35 -.80 for 5 shot groups. The 175gr load with that speed and balistics etc should work on anything in NA. I cannot remember but I think I am no more than 1.5" high at 100m with any of those loads to be pretty much on at 300m..the trajectory is flat way out to 700m I think... but I am only practiced to 400m and that is pretty far in my books...I am still sneaky enuf to close under 200m even with the extra 50lbs I am carrying..ha ha

[270person]

Originally Posted by stob

Had most of them like many of you..currently playing with a 7mmrem...initial loads with no pressure signs are:

175gr NP.......3100fps
160grNP.........3250 fps
140gr ttsx......3325fps
139gr lrx.........3325fps

All these loads are .35 -.80 for 5 shot groups. The 175gr load with that speed and balistics etc should work on anything in NA. I cannot remember but I think I am no more than 1.5" high at 100m with any of those loads to be pretty much on at 300m..the trajectory is flat way out to 700m I think... but I am only practiced to 400m and that is pretty far in my books...I am still sneaky enuf to close under 200m even with the extra 50lbs I am carrying..ha ha

Wow. Thats sending some heat. Built in advantage...blazing up your surroundings during low light conditions and blinding your quarry.

I can picture herds of elk running head on into trees.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by stob

Had most of them like many of you..currently playing with a 7mmrem...initial loads with no pressure signs are:

175gr NP.......3100fps
160grNP.........3250 fps
140gr ttsx......3325fps
139gr lrx.........3325fps

All these loads are .35 -.80 for 5 shot groups. The 175gr load with that speed and balistics etc should work on anything in NA. I cannot remember but I think I am no more than 1.5" high at 100m with any of those loads to be pretty much on at 300m..the trajectory is flat way out to 700m I think... but I am only practiced to 400m and that is pretty far in my books...I am still sneaky enuf to close under 200m even with the extra 50lbs I am carrying..ha ha

I shoot a 7mmstw, producing more velocity , and I have to be 2-1/2" high at 100 to be zeroed at 300 yards with a 140gr bullet . And I doubt that your loads are within SAMMI pressures to produce those velocities, especially the 160gr load. My max 7mmstw 160gr load with a 26" barrel is producing 3300fps, at 3250fps you are producing almost 200fps more than most people are seeing with the 7mmremmag.

[stob]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I shoot a 7mmstw, producing more velocity , and I have to be 2-1/2" high at 100 to be zeroed at 300 yards with a 140gr bullet . And I doubt that your loads are within SAMMI pressures to produce those velocities, especially the 160gr load. My max 7mmstw 160gr load with a 26" barrel is producing 3300fps, at 3250fps you are producing almost 200fps more than most people are seeing with the 7mmremmag.

That is true I am above sammi.....historically when the big 7 first came out some factory 175gr loads were around 3100fps...then they loaded it down...safe with my gun and a 24" tube...my 7weatherby was about 3425 - 3450 with 140gr ttsx with no pressure and room to grow... I always go up carefully by .5gr

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by stob

That is true I am above sammi.....historically when the big 7 first came out some factory 175gr loads were around 3100fps...then they loaded it down...safe with my gun and a 24" tube...my 7weatherby was about 3425 - 3450 with 140gr ttsx with no pressure and room to grow... I always go up carefully by .5gr

Many people consider 150+fps faster than the reputable load data, to be a pressure sign.

[Dubious]

The first pressure sign is velocity the second, people saying no pressure sign in there post. I haven’t noticed any traditional pressure signs until about 10k over but not seeing it dosn’t mean it’s not there. How do I check for pressure? Start low work up measure speed with labradar put into quick load with rifle specific data adjust variables to match atmospheric and fps read computer simulated data. Is it 100% perfect no, But it’s better than going grossly over max and claiming no pressure because the ejector and extractor aren’t clearly stamped onto the brass. Over the years I’ve gotten tired of having no pressure signs and no brass life and a stream of barrels being ordered to replace burnt pipes that “had no pressure signs” now I stay below the red line if you need that 150-fps that bad just buy the next rifle up that’s why they made them.

The 270 is a fine cartridge for elk it’s very adaptable and reliable I wouldn’t hesitate to use it on elk or moose I prefer the 130’s in a 270 for an all around load.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by stob

Had most of them like many of you..currently playing with a 7mmrem...initial loads with no pressure signs are:

175gr NP.......3100fps
160grNP.........3250 fps
140gr ttsx......3325fps
139gr lrx.........3325fps

All these loads are .35 -.80 for 5 shot groups. The 175gr load with that speed and balistics etc should work on anything in NA. I cannot remember but I think I am no more than 1.5" high at 100m with any of those loads to be pretty much on at 300m..the trajectory is flat way out to 700m I think... but I am only practiced to 400m and that is pretty far in my books...I am still sneaky enuf to close under 200m even with the extra 50lbs I am carrying..ha ha

I would be very wary of those loads. My 160 NP load max FPS is 3100. I would check if I were you,stay safe.

[Blacktail22]

270 is a great calibre