Bernier and Scheer...neck and neck

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by raab

Well they made it incredibly hard for themselves. Literally can't even go after Trudeau now for being a drama teacher or snowboard instructor. What has Scheer done? Been nothing but a politician living off the public purse!

He's also a socialist backing the SM system that has us paying high prices for chicken, turkeys, eggs, and milk. Why do pork and cattle farmers have to suffer because of this small group? Chicken should be the cheapest meat available to consumers, instead a chicken breast costs more then a half decent cut of beef. My suggestions to consumers, we boycott these groups and support smaller farmers at local farmer's markets by purchasing our eggs and chickens there. These big cartels can **** off.

He's a career blue fence post from Saskatchewan - those socialist farmers there will vote for a local fence post any day over a shyster lawyer from Quebec - and for good reason.

[Unregistered user]

Scheer's quite funny, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVrchH7YalU

[raab]

Originally Posted by JimPS

He's a career blue fence post from Saskatchewan - those socialist farmers there will vote for a local fence post any day over a shyster lawyer from Quebec - and for good reason.

Lawyer or career politician, can't trust either one. Be nice if Canada actually had a decent option for once.

Edit: Also worth noting you dont need farmers from Saskatchewan to vote for him, you need young people and Eastern Canada. And if you need the big Cartels to make your farm viable your not a farmer, your A government worker. I have no problem giving subsidies to farmers who need them(for all aspects of agriculture not just the diary, and small bird sectors). What I dont agree with is buying quotas and shutting others out of the market reducing the competition so that every Canadian has to pay more.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by raab

Lawyer or career politician, can't trust either one. Be nice if Canada actually had a decent option for once.



Edit: Also worth noting you dont need farmers from Saskatchewan to vote for him, you need young people and Eastern Canada. And if you need the big Cartels to make your farm viable your not a farmer, your A government worker. I have no problem giving subsidies to farmers who need them(for all aspects of agriculture not just the diary, and small bird sectors). What I dont agree with is buying quotas and shutting others out of the market reducing the competition so that every Canadian has to pay more.

This is the truth.... Without the Ontario and Quebec vote, you'll never be the ruling party. You can get all the votes you want in Western Canada, but without central Canadian support , you'll always be the loser.
That's how democracy and representation by population works.

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[Newview01]

If it weren't for Quebec, there probably wouldn't be dairy supply management anymore. Bernier was selling an empty promise.

[metalwrench]

Does he have a website where I can see what his policies and views are like? I'm getting an error when visiting his website.

[raab]

Originally Posted by metalwrench

Does he have a website where I can see what his policies and views are like? I'm getting an error when visiting his website.

Just look up Harper's, they're pretty much identical.

[raab]

Originally Posted by Newview01

If it weren't for Quebec, there probably wouldn't be dairy supply management anymore. Bernier was selling an empty promise.

He was also saying he'd fix equalization which would have a major effect on Quebec. There was only one way to find out whether he'd follow through on his promises or not. We finally had someone who was going to clean up Canada and get us back on track and now we have Harper 2.0 going against Trudeau. The CPC just ensured another 6 years with the Liberals in power.

[Unregistered user]

Harper was the best PM in my lifetime but the MSM didn't like hime so it told the stupid Canadian voters to elect a turd. Hopefully it likes Scheer.

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by raab

He was also saying he'd fix equalization which would have a major effect on Quebec. There was only one way to find out whether he'd follow through on his promises or not. We finally had someone who was going to clean up Canada and get us back on track and now we have Harper 2.0 going against Trudeau. The CPC just ensured another 6 years with the Liberals in power.

You would be foolish to believe his equalization promises.

He is from the East. If he were to campaign on that, he wouldn't get a single vote from Quebec and Ontario. Can't make much of a government without those provinces.

[dmcbride]

Scheer is going to have a tougher time beating the CBC than Trudeau.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sche...cies-1.4136911

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

Harper was the best PM in my lifetime but the MSM didn't like hime so it told the stupid Canadian voters to elect a turd. Hopefully it likes Scheer.

So, you're 23?

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

Scheer is going to have a tougher time beating the CBC than Trudeau.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sche...cies-1.4136911

It took them a day longer than I thought it would to dig up the "secret agenda" trope.

A move by new Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer's campaign has made it much tougher for average Canadians to consult the policy positions that won the hearts and minds of Conservative Party supporters.

Finding Scheer's policy positions used to be as easy as clicking on his website, where his thoughts on 26 policies were laid out — from "Prioritizing Real Refugees" and "Standing up for Religious Freedom," to "Freer Trade" and "Cheaper Flights."

But in the wake of Saturday's leadership vote, Canadians who went looking for that website — trying to find out more about the man who pulled off the come-from-behind upset victory — would've come up empty.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

So, you're 23?

I wish, name a better one since Diefenbaker.

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

I wish, name a better one since Diefenbaker.

Pearson

Mulroney

[wags]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

Harper was the best PM in my lifetime but the MSM didn't like hime so it told the stupid Canadian voters to elect a turd. Hopefully it likes Scheer.

You're adorable!

[Scott N]

Originally Posted by Newview01

You would be foolish to believe his equalization promises.

He is from the East. If he were to campaign on that, he wouldn't get a single vote from Quebec and Ontario. Can't make much of a government without those provinces.

What would Ontario vote if the CPC promised to reel in Quebec's transfer payments? Historically, I'm sure ON is sick of being one of the "have" provinces, although they are not recently. Ontario and Quebec don't vote as a block, and Harper proved you can win an election without Quebec.

[raab]

Originally Posted by rugatika

It took them a day longer than I thought it would to dig up the "secret agenda" trope.

Taking a page out of the NDP playbook...

[raab]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

Pearson

Mulroney

Despite people on here not liking Chretien he was able to turn a deficit into a surplus and was reducing the National debt. He left Harper in a pretty good position going forward. The gun registry debacle and not rescinding the GST hurt him but the GST helped pay down the debt and turn a surplus so you can't blame him to much for keeping it if you like balanced budgets.

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by raab

Despite people on here not liking Chretien he was able to turn a deficit into a surplus and was reducing the National debt. He left Harper in a pretty good position going forward. The gun registry debacle and not rescinding the GST hurt him but the GST helped pay down the debt and turn a surplus so you can't blame him to much for keeping it if you like balanced budgets.

Pretty easy to balance budgets when one steals $54 billion out of the EI fund to balance books. $54 billion would have came in handy during the 2008-09 recession.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/govern...court-1.750084

[raab]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

Pretty easy to balance budgets when one steals $54 billion out of the EI fund to balance books. $54 billion would have came in handy during the 2008-09 recession.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/govern...court-1.750084

They wouldn't have been able to use EI money in 08-09 according to the ruling. I think it would be appropriate to drop the EI rates though if we had that big of surplus in there.

Still impressive he took a 38.6B dollar deficit and turned it into a 10.6B dollar surplus in less then 10 years. Any fiscal conservative should be able to acknowledge that accomplishment whether you like the party or not.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

Pearson

Mulroney

Commies both of 'em.

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by Unregistered user

Commies both of 'em.

What a colossally stupid thing to say!

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

What a colossally stupid thing to say!

Agreed.
Even a reasonably dense 23 year old with the combined mental capacity of his 15 year old inbred girlfriend couldn't be t that colossally stupid.
What an old beauty.

[dgl1948]

Originally Posted by raab

Despite people on here not liking Chretien he was able to turn a deficit into a surplus and was reducing the National debt. He left Harper in a pretty good position going forward. The gun registry debacle and not rescinding the GST hurt him but the GST helped pay down the debt and turn a surplus so you can't blame him to much for keeping it if you like balanced budgets.

Seems to me that Chrétien left a sponsorship scandal and helicopter debacle for a legacy.

[raab]

Originally Posted by dgl1948

Seems to me that Chrétien left a sponsorship scandal and helicopter debacle for a legacy.

Sponsorship scandal he was cleared on, and if your upset about the helicopter debacle you should be upset with Klein's health care cuts. Both were done because they needed to be done. The fact the Sikorsky can't get the helicopters built isn't Canada fault.

Also lets not act like Harper is squeeky clean, you can look up the in and out scandal, the fradulent phone calls to voters informing them of the wrong location for voting, the senate scandals with Nigel wright, the G8 scandal... o and there's the F35 which is starting to look an awful lot like the helicopter situation.

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by raab

Sponsorship scandal he was cleared on, and if your upset about the helicopter debacle you should be upset with Klein's health care cuts. Both were done because they needed to be done. The fact the Sikorsky can't get the helicopters built isn't Canada fault.

Also lets not act like Harper is squeeky clean, you can look up the in and out scandal, the fradulent phone calls to voters informing them of the wrong location for voting, the senate scandals with Nigel wright, the G8 scandal... o and there's the F35 which is starting to look an awful lot like the helicopter situation.

Your HDS is showing again.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

What a colossally stupid thing to say!

Not really, Mulroney was labelled a "Red Tory" (More progressive than conservative) if you were around back then you'd remember that. Pearson? Ask the military types about him. Why is our flag red and white? Liberal-party colours.

[Unregistered user]

Originally Posted by raab

Sponsorship scandal he was cleared on, and if your upset about the helicopter debacle you should be upset with Klein's health care cuts. Both were done because they needed to be done. The fact the Sikorsky can't get the helicopters built isn't Canada fault.

Also lets not act like Harper is squeeky clean, you can look up the in and out scandal, the fradulent phone calls to voters informing them of the wrong location for voting, the senate scandals with Nigel wright, the G8 scandal... o and there's the F35 which is starting to look an awful lot like the helicopter situation.

Don't forget the multi-billion dollar nuclear submarine fiasco that has cost us any real chance of claiming sovereignty of the arctic. Closer to the bone for us gun-owners, his bunch really screwed us over.

[Unregistered user]

Mulroney, Airbus scandal anyone? Poor wee Brian cried on camera because he didn't know what to do with all that cash they gave him. The crook walked because he was protected by the same old boys club that shielded an equally crooked Chretien during the sponsorship scandal.