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Old 05-22-2017, 09:24 AM
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That isn't a surprise considering how corrupt they are, at least in BC. What is more amazing is that people will still vote for the Liberals [cons/socreds] all but sanctioning the govt being bought and paid for my large corporations.
The NDP would certainly get those large corporations in line......a line up to leave the province that is. Just like they did in the 90's
Remember back to the dismal shape the province was in at the end of the last NDP government and contrast it to the present day. You don't really want to go back do you ? Can't you recall the disgraced NDP losing every seat in the province except 2 in the downtown east end of Vancouver. THEY WERE SLAUGHTERED (and rightfully so !).
We may not love everything about the Liberals BUT we know what will happen if the NDP get in again.
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The NDP seriously need to look at a name change in order to shed some long carried baggage (here in BC anyway). JMO
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It's one or the other, and they are both the same. Who's turn this session?

That ^ couldn't be further from the truth!

You just gave yourself away ... you know nothing of BC politics.

Give some thought to sticking with what you know.

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Old 05-23-2017, 09:50 AM
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Pipeline already under construction by my place, no provincial government even in BC can stop a NEB approved pipeline. The billion$$ law suit by Kinder Morgan would throw the BC budgets into deficits like in Alberta. Its all over except some crying now.
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C'mon Christie! Gotta get that nag across the finish line. Never thought I'd be rooting for that dingbat, but.....
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Pipeline already under construction by my place, no provincial government even in BC can stop a NEB approved pipeline. The billion$$ law suit by Kinder Morgan would throw the BC budgets into deficits like in Alberta. Its all over except some crying now.
You're probably seeing some pipeline maintenance on the existing line, construction on the Kinder Morgan Expansion has not started yet.

I agree with you about the NEB approval process, the BC Government can be arbitrated just like any other landowner.

Hopefully they throw the protesters in jail immediately if they show up and break the law in any form.
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:01 PM
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In 'theory', we should know the final results in the next few hours ... https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle35074932/

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The NDP would certainly get those large corporations in line......a line up to leave the province that is. Just like they did in the 90's
Remember back to the dismal shape the province was in at the end of the last NDP government and contrast it to the present day. You don't really want to go back do you ? Can't you recall the disgraced NDP losing every seat in the province except 2 in the downtown east end of Vancouver. THEY WERE SLAUGHTERED (and rightfully so !).
We may not love everything about the Liberals BUT we know what will happen if the NDP get in again.
Nothing but more fear mongering, corporations don't leave a province unless they cannot make profits, tax free profits are even better. Corporations can make lots of profits under the liberals....and people cannot afford to buy a home, or insure a vehicle...at some point things have to swing the other way and that is why it's time for the liberals to go.
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Nothing but more fear mongering, corporations don't leave a province unless they cannot make profits, tax free profits are even better. Corporations can make lots of profits under the liberals....and people cannot afford to buy a home, or insure a vehicle...at some point things have to swing the other way and that is why it's time for the liberals to go.
CS I know your trolling again

And how are the NDP going to help anyone out there other the there big pay raises to all there union back buddys ???
Corporation and less try to make jobs .
If your union brothers + sisters think there sooo much $$$ to be made out there , why don't the Unions start up there own "corporations" and make lots of profits . After all its free enterprise nothing stopping them other than fear and good judgement holding them back .
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Nothing but more fear mongering, corporations don't leave a province unless they cannot make profits, tax free profits are even better. Corporations can make lots of profits under the liberals....and people cannot afford to buy a home, or insure a vehicle...at some point things have to swing the other way and that is why it's time for the liberals to go.
It's pretty obvious that in the history of the provinces that anytime there has been an NDP government the economy languished as a direct result of their policies. Whether you choose to believe "alternate facts" is up to you.
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C'mon Christie! Gotta get that nag across the finish line. Never thought I'd be rooting for that dingbat, but.....
Better the dingbat you know, than ... *&^%$# ...



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In 'theory', we should know the final results in the next few hours ... https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle35074932/

The suspense is killing me !!!

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I correct myself . . .
We may not know the absolute final results until Thursday or Friday !!!
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The NDP seriously need to look at a name change in order to shed some long carried baggage (here in BC anyway). JMO
So change the name, but keep the same sad, failed policies... typical. When they discover hard work, self-sufficiency, and shun perpetual victimhood, then they can change their name.
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Nothing but more fear mongering, corporations don't leave a province unless they cannot make profits,
Well glad you learned that. And of course profits are bad.


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..and people cannot afford to buy a home,.
Uh, that isn't the fault of your evil corporations. That's greedy homeowners taking as much as they can get. When an owner is selling their home and someone offers them a million, they should say "oh gee, that's too much. I'll take $700,000. That's more than enough".

I will say that an NDP win should get housing prices under control. When economies collapse prices usually go down. Look at Alberta.
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CBC for the win!

I don't want to watch it, but I can't look away. I feel kind of guilty for enjoying it, but damned if this isn't the most beautiful train wreck in Canada's history. And we get to see it live...right before our eyes.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:56 AM
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I hate to say it but this election was decided by city folks and the change in demographics. The new coalition government will be corrupt and unorganized. Just wait for it. Hopefully it is short lived.
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So change the name, but keep the same sad, failed policies... typical. When they discover hard work, self-sufficiency, and shun perpetual victimhood, then they can change their name.
NDP provincially and Federally in Canada are all the same party. Same guys running the show. It is a fact.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tran...sday-1.4137305

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says his government's support for the expansion of the Trans Mountain pipeline was based on what's in Canada's best interest, and will not change even if the position of a new provincial government does.
"The decision we took on the Trans Mountain pipeline was based on facts [and] evidence, on what is in the best interest of Canadians," he said during a joint press conference with Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni in Rome on Tuesday.
A deal announced Monday between the NDP and the Green Party has poised British Columbia for a change in government, following confirmation of a tight provincial election result earlier this month that saw Christy Clark's Liberals fail to win the majority of seats in the legislature.
• Trans Mountain IPO to proceed despite BC Green-NDP deal
• Hundreds rally in Burnaby to oppose Trans Mountain expansion
More details on the scope of this agreement are expected Tuesday, but the two parties campaigned against expansion of the Kinder Morgan pipeline. Clark's government was supportive.
"Regardless of a change in government, in British Columbia or anywhere, the facts and evidence do not change," Trudeau said. "We understand that growing a strong economy for the future requires taking leadership on the environment.
"We have to do those two things together. That is what drives us in the choices we make, and we stand by those choices."
Provinces 'cannot unilaterally stop projects'
In a statement early Tuesday, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley said she's confident the two provinces could work together on important issues should the new accord result in an NDP-led government in B.C.
But "it is no secret that we have one important disagreement," she said, describing the Trans Mountain expansion as "critical" to both Alberta's economy and the national economy.
"It comes with significant safety measures that will better protect Canada's West Coast and Alberta's commitment to a world-leading climate plan," the statement said. "Because of that, the National Energy Board and the federal government, which has ultimate responsibility, approved it after a rigorous environmental review."
Notley said provinces "do not have the right to unilaterally stop projects such as Trans Mountain that have earned the federal government's approval. This is a foundational principle that binds our country together.
"There are no legal tools available to provinces to stand in the way of infrastructure projects that benefit all Canadians. We will use the means at our disposal to ensure that the project is built."
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You are dreaming if you think it will go through if the NDP/Green end up running BC.
Darn it, Scott, way to jinx it!
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The NDP would certainly get those large corporations in line......a line up to leave the province that is. Just like they did in the 90's
Remember back to the dismal shape the province was in at the end of the last NDP government and contrast it to the present day. You don't really want to go back do you ? Can't you recall the disgraced NDP losing every seat in the province except 2 in the downtown east end of Vancouver. THEY WERE SLAUGHTERED (and rightfully so !).
We may not love everything about the Liberals BUT we know what will happen if the NDP get in again.
So what your saying is you are ok with lying thieves so long as they aren't called NDP?? In case you missed it, in the last 16 years ALL the liberals have done is increase my cost of living and managed to sell off or privatize about everything they could. All while soaking in millions and millions in political donations...but they aren't the NDP that did bad things what 30 years ago?? Gotta wonder at that logic.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tran...sday-1.4137305

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says his government's support for the expansion of the Trans Mountain pipeline was based on what's in Canada's best interest, and will not change even if the position of a new provincial government does.
"The decision we took on the Trans Mountain pipeline was based on facts [and] evidence, on what is in the best interest of Canadians," he said during a joint press conference with Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni in Rome on Tuesday.
A deal announced Monday between the NDP and the Green Party has poised British Columbia for a change in government, following confirmation of a tight provincial election result earlier this month that saw Christy Clark's Liberals fail to win the majority of seats in the legislature.
• Trans Mountain IPO to proceed despite BC Green-NDP deal
• Hundreds rally in Burnaby to oppose Trans Mountain expansion
More details on the scope of this agreement are expected Tuesday, but the two parties campaigned against expansion of the Kinder Morgan pipeline. Clark's government was supportive.
"Regardless of a change in government, in British Columbia or anywhere, the facts and evidence do not change," Trudeau said. "We understand that growing a strong economy for the future requires taking leadership on the environment.
"We have to do those two things together. That is what drives us in the choices we make, and we stand by those choices."
Provinces 'cannot unilaterally stop projects'
In a statement early Tuesday, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley said she's confident the two provinces could work together on important issues should the new accord result in an NDP-led government in B.C.
But "it is no secret that we have one important disagreement," she said, describing the Trans Mountain expansion as "critical" to both Alberta's economy and the national economy.
"It comes with significant safety measures that will better protect Canada's West Coast and Alberta's commitment to a world-leading climate plan," the statement said. "Because of that, the National Energy Board and the federal government, which has ultimate responsibility, approved it after a rigorous environmental review."
Notley said provinces "do not have the right to unilaterally stop projects such as Trans Mountain that have earned the federal government's approval. This is a foundational principle that binds our country together.
"There are no legal tools available to provinces to stand in the way of infrastructure projects that benefit all Canadians. We will use the means at our disposal to ensure that the project is built."
Everyone seems to forget that most of BC is untreated native land....things are not the same here as in the rest of Canada. I seriously doubt Trudope will have the balls to bring in the military to protect the pipeline construction crews, because that's what it will take to get it put in.
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Everyone seems to forget that most of BC is untreated native land....things are not the same here as in the rest of Canada. I seriously doubt Trudope will have the balls to bring in the military to protect the pipeline construction crews, because that's what it will take to get it put in.


Instead of the military, I'm sure that bags and bags of $ will be brought instead. Then maybe throw in a sprinkling of greed, corruption and empty promises from both sides in the mix. That ought to get the pipeline built.

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Anyone who protests fossil fuels should be deprived of all consumables that require fossil fuels in any way. There are no gray areas, it is a black and white issue.
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Everyone seems to forget that most of BC is untreated native land....things are not the same here as in the rest of Canada. I seriously doubt Trudope will have the balls to bring in the military to protect the pipeline construction crews, because that's what it will take to get it put in.
A bit off track but what I wonder are the legal ramifications of BC being untreatied?

Does that mean that anyone owning land there can be subject to the Natives trying to take it away?
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A bit off track but what I wonder are the legal ramifications of BC being untreatied?

Does that mean that anyone owning land there can be subject to the Natives trying to take it away?
Yep. And it's been done already, to several individuals and businesses. There's even one band that issued eviction notices to CN rail.

Nice place to visit but sure as heck wouldn't catch me investing there.
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