If an provincial election was held today, who would you vote for?

[Ryry4]

Originally Posted by Jimboy

Wont be any change by voting wildrose , their just a bunch of ex disgruntled Torys who want more profits for big business , and oil companies, of which most of them have stocks in.

Really all of them? When was Danielle Smith part of the Tories? Keep voting for the status quo and guess what you'll get. I'll take my chances because the Red Redford will ruin this province sooner than later.

[Scar270]

Originally Posted by Jimboy

Wont be any change by voting wildrose , their just a bunch of ex disgruntled Torys who want more profits for big business , and oil companies, of which most of them have stocks in.

What new party isn't created by people who are upset with the current ones?

The Reform was a bunch of Disgruntled Tories too, but they certainly made some changes, and were significantly different then the Kim Campbell PC's, much the same way the Wildrose is considerably different then the Redford Tories, hopefully with a similar effect on election day.

Btw, why don't you want business's to profit, without business's there are no jobs and no one paying any taxes for our infrastructure.

[Bluegrass]

hardcore conservatism rules

[Ryry4]

Originally Posted by Bluegrass

hardcore conservatism rules

Good to see you've come over to the right side.

[Okotokian]

You put me on the spot. My God, I have no idea! I couldn't bring myself to vote for any of the alternatives in your poll and I'm not sure who I'd vote for in a real election. None are satisfactory. Liberals and everything to the left of them are out. I'm not a separatist, the Conservatives are tired old screw-ups, the Wild Rose have a wacky fringe and a few policies I can't stomach, and I really know nothing about the Alberta party. Perhaps I need to research them a little... but I'm sure I'll be disappointed.

Philosophically I'm probably closest to the Conservatives, if they could just clean up their act... but they won't.

Hmmm I see one vote so far for the "Communist Party of Alberta". I didn't know we had one... EASTCOAST!!!!!!!!!

[Rocky7]

Originally Posted by TheKi

Seperation party of Alberta but i can't vote

I can but they're not a contender, unfortunately. Too bad.

[Rocky7]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

..., the Wild Rose have a wacky fringe and a few policies I can't stomach, ....

Like what, exactly?

[Jag_Gator]

Can someone just kind of highlight the key differences between the PCs and the WRP? I mean, if the WRP is more libertarian in their approach, I might be down with that.

[Ryry4]

Originally Posted by Jag_Gator

Can someone just kind of highlight the key differences between the PCs and the WRP? I mean, if the WRP is more libertarian in their approach, I might be down with that.

http://www.wildrose.ca/

This may help shed some light.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Rocky7

Like what, exactly?

From a Herald article... "She (Smith) believes the province needs to be more hands-off on everything from environmental oversight to business regulation.". Given that the WRP site has a link to this article I'd say it's accurate. I disagree.

I'm not reallly onside with her hostilty to land and water planning and her strong support for grazing lease holders rights. Also her support of "First in time, first in right" position on water rights when we all own and need the resource. I live in a town that is having to spend millions to buy water rights from people who aren't using them and originally got them for FREE. I think all these positions hinder proper management of scarce resources and also hinder hunting and fishing rights for those that don't own land or hold leases.

Also, hell, they have Link Byfield running for them.

Those are my reasons why she probably won't get my vote, and she is running in my riding.

[eastcoast]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

You put me on the spot. My God, I have no idea! I couldn't bring myself to vote for any of the alternatives in your poll and I'm not sure who I'd vote for in a real election. None are satisfactory. Liberals and everything to the left of them are out. I'm not a separatist, the Conservatives are tired old screw-ups, the Wild Rose have a wacky fringe and a few policies I can't stomach, and I really know nothing about the Alberta party. Perhaps I need to research them a little... but I'm sure I'll be disappointed.

Philosophically I'm probably closest to the Conservatives, if they could just clean up their act... but they won't.

Hmmm I see one vote so far for the "Communist Party of Alberta". I didn't know we had one... EASTCOAST!!!!!!!!!

[Rocky7]

Originally Posted by Jag_Gator

Can someone just kind of highlight the key differences between the PCs and the WRP? I mean, if the WRP is more libertarian in their approach, I might be down with that.

The PC's are infested with liberals. That's why our government is so big - and getting bigger.

As for the WRA, you can peruse their policies here: http://www.wildrose.ca

Don't let anybody give you a soundbite summary of either - check them out for yourself, ask questions, be skeptical. Then decide which is best. None of it is perfect. I pushed - hard - for the last 2 years for a sensible gun policy in the Wild Rose and I know a lot of members thought along the same lines - a LOT. We ended up with some drivel about compensation when guns are confiscated.

I will vote WR anyway. Mostly because Danielle Smith leads them. Before her handlers and PC defectors got her to dodge the debate, she thought like what I posted at #195 here:

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...t=86026&page=7

I believe/hope she still thinks along those lines. That's a lot better than the uninformed antagonism the comes out of other political mouths, IMO. Gun control is important because it's about more than guns. It's one of the canaries in the coal mine. It's where I draw a hard line. I think we all should.

[Ryry4]

Protecting property owners, when the PC's are trying to take them away. One reason they're getting my vote.

[Rocky7]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

From a Herald article... "She (Smith) believes the province needs to be more hands-off on everything from environmental oversight to business regulation.". Given that the WRP site has a link to this article I'd say it's accurate. I disagree.

Why not check for yourself? The WRA has a website.

I'm not reallly onside with her hostilty to ....

You lost me at "hostility"....

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Rocky7

Why not check for yourself? The WRA has a website.

I did. The quote is from a link POSTED ON THE WILDROSE WEBSITE.

Originally Posted by Rocky7

You lost me at "hostility"....

hostility, opposition, dislike, pick your word.

[Zulu9er]

I am voting Wild Rose,,,, its too bad that the PC leader Alisonwonderland Smith does not read this,, or is protected by her cronies trying to hang on to power from reading this. I hope they do,,, just to watch them all want to cross the floor so to speak to try and hang on to their position in the trough. Non of them could give a rats ***** about what you and I think,, its about keeping the job and the h3ll with us.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

Ya, I'm not sure they would be the best choice for outdoorsmen based on some of their policy especially surrounding game farming but for me it's kind of anyone but PC vote. Rocky times ahead for hunters in this province no matter who gets elected I fear.....

What is their policy on Game Farming?

The Wildrose did oppose Bill 11.

On public hunting issues, I simply can't vote for the PC's. They WILL introduce more legislation to legalize game farms, paid access to private and leased land, and transferable Landowner licences.

We have the opportunity to help develop a Public Wildlife policy within the Wildrose party.

If Wildrose is elected, and they turn out to be ambitous in removing Public rights to wildlife and land resources, then they in turn will lose my vote.

[Rocky7]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

If Wildrose is elected, and they turn out to be ambitous in removing Public rights to wildlife and land resources, then they in turn will lose my vote.

Ditto.

I'd like to see grazing leases on the Eastern Slopes gone, too, as I think Okotokian was getting at. My letters to that effect have fallen on deaf P.C. ears. It might be the same with the WRA, I don't know. I do know what we'd get with all the other parties and I want no part of it.

There is an opportunity, I think, if we put fresh WRA faces in the legislature that might not be obvious. It is this: So far, PC defectors have had a big say in optics and policy. I guess that's understandable in the mud puddle that is politics. However, if they are inundated with many more new WRA MLAs - hopefully bringing open minds, common sense and convictions to the table - those PC defectors and their timidity about conservative values might be swamped.

I don't see any other choices, really.

[Redfrog]

"the Wild Rose have a wacky fringe and a few policies I can't stomach,"

You forgot the "hidden agenda'

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

"the Wild Rose have a wacky fringe and a few policies I can't stomach,"

You forgot the "hidden agenda'

LOL No, I don't think there is anything hidden actually. And I'm fine with about 70% of their platform, and we do need a change. Just a couple things that bother me, that's all.

And if you like them, then my "wacky" worry is well-founded, right?

[NSRfishing]

Originally Posted by leo

You mean no more farmers from Saskatchewan or out of work pipe fitters from Newfoundland?

they worker better than the somalians

[BeeGuy]

I voted WRP. Although they are all politicians.

[rugatika]

I had no idea the WRP supported profits for business!! If there is one thing I am looking for in a party, is a party that can promise to run every single business in the province into the ground. I guess my vote will stay with the PC's. sarcoff.



Somedays...I tell ya.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by NSRfishing

11.7 Alberta Workers First: The Alberta Social Credit Government will not allow foreign workers to work on oil sands projects as long as qualified Albertans are available to do the jobs.

That's already a requirement to bring a foreign worker in, though it's Canadian, not Albertan. That's why you bring in a foreign worker. The policy is a meaningless platitude. But if you want to restrict it to Albertan's then be prepared to create a provincial bureaucracy to support it, with labout market data research, an approval process, auditing of private company hiring.... Socialist Credit.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

I voted WRP.

Aw geez Louise!!!!!!! Why don't you just poison my dog..

[Gust]

no more poll choices??? I'm stumped.

[nekred]

I remember seeing a political cartoon... two guys voting and one guy was a farmer and there were two boxes... Cons and Libs and he asked the voting officer...

"Which one is that Klein guy?"

Now I look and think which party Klein would support... Before he stopped drinking!...

In his Rd interview they asked him about his legacy and he wanted to leave an Alberta that even the Liberals could not mess up...

Wish we had someone that could grab the bull by the balls and be ready to deal with the horns... like Klein!... until he stopped drinking

Problem is that many of us to politically incorrect to get support from the majority...

[Okotokian]

That's really saying something when you think about the "Golden Age" in Alberta politics as "before he quit drinking..." LOL Wonder what someone from another country would think?

[Sushi]

was hoping for a 'not sure' option...I need to put some thought into this...I always vote and need to get up to speed on the platforms. obviously the cons are tripping over the issues so the heat is on.

[Sooner]

Always voted PC, marked down Wildrose on the poll because I think the Wildrose needs to be our opposition for the next term but when I say opposition, I would like to see a very slim majority in favor of the PC's, make them sweat. I dont think the WR is ready to run the province yet. I think right now they are saying whatever they need to say to get votes. With all the PC Mla's not running in the next election, it makes me wonder how many of them are planning a switch to the WR. Hard to pick when no party stands out as a clear choice.