30-06 150gr set

[pintailslammer]

HI
Anyone using Varget in there 30-06 for reloading
Or Imr 4064?

Never reloaded for 30-06 before so any help or inform would be nice

I reloaded lots of others
Let see the load data
It for a semi auto as well

Pin

[Sashi]

No great groups with 150gr and varget, But I got some nice groups >1" with the 180grs.

[huntinstuff]

50g of IMR 4064 with a 165g bullet. Exactly the same load with Varget and a 165g bullet

55g of IMR 4064 with a 150g bullet will be very close to 3000fps. I keep it at 50g of Varget for a 150g bullet though.

I dont normally shoot 150g bullets anymore, but those are some of the loads i used in the past.


I found 57g of RL22 with a 180g Nosler Partition was my best groups at 200m

[tranq78]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

50g of IMR 4064 with a 165g bullet. Exactly the same load with Varget and a 165g bullet



55g of IMR 4064 with a 150g bullet will be very close to 3000fps. I keep it at 50g of Varget for a 150g bullet though.

Hey that's almost our Varget load for 165 grain projectiles. We use 49.5gr Varget. We have a Weatherby Vanguard that gets overpressure at 50gr Varget.

55gr IMR4064 for 150gr will definitely be on the hot side, I think. For target shooting and Garand loads we use 147 gr projectiles with 48-49 gr IMR4064 iirc.



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[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by tranq78

Hey that's almost our Varget load for 165 grain projectiles. We use 49.5gr Varget. We have a Weatherby Vanguard that gets overpressure at 50gr Varget.

55gr IMR4064 for 150gr will definitely be on the hot side, I think. For target shooting and Garand loads we use 147 gr projectiles with 48-49 gr IMR4064 iirc.



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Yup. I just checked my notes and the chrono was 2979-2989fps with 55g of imr4064 with 150g bullets. Hot but grouped very well at 200m. I shoot a Sako A7

[Dick284]

I get excellent results with Varget and 150’s in one of my 30-06’s
It’s a 20” barrelled rifle and I yield muzzle velocities of nearly 2900 fps.

[b_doornenbal]

I use Varget with 130gr Barnes for the 30-06 … 3200 FPS. Has worked fine on moose and elk to 350 yards.

[fordtruckin]

I used 4064 for a 165gr back in the day when I had an 06. Easy to load for imo.

[brewster29]

Originally Posted by pintailslammer

HI
Anyone using Varget in there 30-06 for reloading
Or Imr 4064?

Never reloaded for 30-06 before so any help or inform would be nice

I reloaded lots of others
Let see the load data
It for a semi auto as well

Pin

Powder: pretty much only ever loaded IMR4350 or W760 in the 30-06.

You will likely find you will need small base dies for your semi auto. Don’t try to push pressures to maximum.

[kayaker]

I have used 50.5gr Varget under 150gr TTSX in .30-06. Gave great accuracy. Not sure sure of velocity. Varget is a little too fast burning but accuracy was much better than H4350 with that bullet in my rifle.

Like another post said, a 130gr TTSX over Varget would be be fast, flat and very deadly.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

50g of IMR 4064 with a 165g bullet. Exactly the same load with Varget and a 165g bullet

55g of IMR 4064 with a 150g bullet will be very close to 3000fps. I keep it at 50g of Varget for a 150g bullet though.

I dont normally shoot 150g bullets anymore, but those are some of the loads i used in the past.


I found 57g of RL22 with a 180g Nosler Partition was my best groups at 200m

Just a heads up. I used nearly that exact load on a moose hunt, and RL22 failed miserably in the cold (-30 F) huge lose in velocity, so use with caution would be my advice. (P.S. grouped consistently around an 1" at 100 yards when I sighted the rifle in +10 F or so)

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Just a heads up. I used nearly that exact load on a moose hunt, and RL22 failed miserably in the cold (-30 F) huge lose in velocity, so use with caution would be my advice. (P.S. grouped consistently around an 1" at 100 yards when I sighted the rifle in +10 F or so)

Ive heard of temperature issues with rl22 but have not experienced it.

[pintailslammer]

HI
Looks like I might have bought the bullets before doing some more research
My hornady manual has loads but not with the powder I currently buy
I either buy different bullets or buy powder
Now a days is a toss up on price

I appreciate all the feed back

Again the AO forum guys are great bunch of fellow sportsman

Thanks Again
Pin

[obsessed1]

Originally Posted by pintailslammer

HI
Looks like I might have bought the bullets before doing some more research
My hornady manual has loads but not with the powder I currently buy
I either buy different bullets or buy powder
Now a days is a toss up on price

I appreciate all the feed back

Again the AO forum guys are great bunch of fellow sportsman

Thanks Again
Pin

What bullets did you buy? What powder do you have? Just because the hornady manual doesnt list it doesnt necessarily mean you cant use it.

[pintailslammer]

Originally Posted by obsessed1

What bullets did you buy? What powder do you have? Just because the hornady manual doesnt list it doesnt necessarily mean you cant use it.

I purchased Hornady 150 gr sst, I currently have H4831sc,H1000,H414.Varget,Imr4350,h4350

Pin

[Athabasca1]

The Hornady 11th edition manual has both Varget and H4350 listed for 150 gr SST bullets.

[obsessed1]

Varget, h4350, and imr4350 will all work.

[REMINGTON JIM]

H414.Varget,Imr4350,h4350

All GOOD powders with a 150 SST bullet in a 30-06 RJ

[Dean2]

Like developing any load; look in load data, first choice is the powder that produces the very highest velocity at lowest pressure using a Temp stable powder that isn't a compressed load but gives more than 95% case fill at max published load. Start with that powder.

[Sundog57]

I have a great load using Barnes 150s and H4895, any comments on the difference between H4895 (which I haven't seen for more than a year) and IMR4895 (which is currently available)?
Obviously would need to download to start and then work up but wondering about any performance experience

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by Sundog57

I have a great load using Barnes 150s and H4895, any comments on the difference between H4895 (which I haven't seen for more than a year) and IMR4895 (which is currently available)?
Obviously would need to download to start and then work up but wondering about any performance experience

H4895 will be less temp sensitive
If you have both I would use that one

[waldedw]

Have not loaded 30-06 for a number of years now but when I did I use IMR 4350 58.5gr behind the 165gr sierra BT velocity was around 2850 if I recall correctly and accuracy was sub 1", a very nice load, never loaded 150gr as I felt that the 165gr was about the optimum bullet for the 30-06.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by pintailslammer

HI
Looks like I might have bought the bullets before doing some more research
My hornady manual has loads but not with the powder I currently buy
I either buy different bullets or buy powder
Now a days is a toss up on price

I appreciate all the feed back

Again the AO forum guys are great bunch of fellow sportsman

Thanks Again
Pin

Direct from Hodgdon. I have never loaded for a 30-06 before, this new one is the first I have owned. I have to say I am surprised at how anemic the published loads for it are. The current published Hodgdon loads are significantly slower than previously published, but then so are 308 and 7 Rem Mag. I thought the more conservative numbers were the result of better pressure testing equipment but I am starting to think there may be something to this lawyer reduced load theory considering they have dropped again in the past 3 years..

Hodgdon Powder Company provides reloading data that covers most bullets available today. However, because there are so many bullet shapes, styles, and construction configurations we cannot create data for every single one. If you cannot find your particular bullet in the reload data there is good news. We provide data in enough variations in most calibers to give you a safe alternative.

Current rifle bullets are constructed with a jacket/lead core or single material (such as all-copper). Bullets with lead cores typically display lower pressures than bullets of all copper or gilding metal structure. As such, we show data for both style bullets in a given weight, as often as possible. For example, should you have a Hornady GMX solid core hunting bullet, but our data for that weight bullet only shows a Speer lead core bullet and a Barnes all copper TSX bullet, use the data for the Barnes bullet. The GMX and TSX bullets being of similar metals and shape, can utilize the same data.

Pistol bullets create the same situation, having even more changes in shape and type. There are lead bullets, copper plated lead bullets, copper-jacketed lead core bullets, and frangible bullets. Frangible bullets are unique such that we always show separate data for them (and recommend not using any other bullet type data).

Lead bullets and copper plated lead bullets yield very similar pressure and velocity results, so when the weights are the same, the same data may be used for each. Jacketed Lead core bullets come in a variety of configurations. Jacketed Hollow points and Jacketed Flat points of the same weight use the same data. Round nosed, lead core, full metal jacketed bullets of the same weight can also use the same data.

In conclusion, bullets with similar shapes and construction materials will utilize the same data. And, above all else, work up your loads by starting with the beginning load and increase charges in small increments, at all times watching for case head pressure signs and stiff extraction.