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07-23-2019, 10:22 PM
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High country food storage question
To all the high elevation sheep hunters who venture way above the tree line... What do you do to protect your food from grizzly and other small creatures? Since there are no trees to store food and scented toiletries in would you stash it away in a hole? Under rocks? In a scent proof bucket or container? I’ve always kept food out of my tent since I hunt and fish in bear country. That being said, I’ve also always had trees of some sort to use. Any tips or tricks are appreciated.
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07-23-2019, 10:40 PM
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I just walk my food bag 50-100m away from my tent and leave it on the rocks and hope for the best. So far I haven’t had anything tear into it.
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07-23-2019, 10:43 PM
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We use a trip line alarm around our camp at night, to wake us up , if tripped
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07-24-2019, 06:49 AM
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Leave it in pack, which in turn is used as a pillow.
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07-24-2019, 06:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainTi
Leave it in pack, which in turn is used as a pillow.
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2x...
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07-24-2019, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MountainTi
Leave it in pack, which in turn is used as a pillow.
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Really? This goes against everything I ever learned about bear safety, I definitely would have thought it better to stash food a couple hundred metres away from the tent.
Never had any trouble doing this?
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07-24-2019, 11:16 AM
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Just curious about this setup.
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Originally Posted by nimrod
We use a trip line alarm around our camp at night, to wake us up , if tripped
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Interesting idea, where did you buy it or do you have any photos of the alarm?
Above tree line, if a cliff face or giant rock is not available to hang the food off I've strategically stacked pots so that in the event a critter tries to get into the food they would fall and make a noise to alert us.
This only works for bigger beasts like bears unfortunately not for mice or martens which just tunnel into bags left on the ground.
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07-24-2019, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LJalberta
I just walk my food bag 50-100m away from my tent and leave it on the rocks and hope for the best. So far I haven’t had anything tear into it.
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Same here. I put it in a light weight waterproof dry bag (sea to summit) and put it a away from the tent with a good line of visibility from my tent. Eyes light up pretty good at night in the headlamp/flashlight. I run the closure for the dry bag thru the handles of my titanium pot and lid as a noise maker if anything gets on it.
If we got dog(s) with us I don't worry about it to much.
If we are in the timber I like to get it off the ground, hanging in a tree or use a pole type setup/tripod. Rodents are much more of an issue once you are into the timber I find.
https://seatosummitusa.com/collectio...proof-dry-bags
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07-24-2019, 11:45 AM
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Sleep with it in the tent. Bears are smarter than that.
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07-24-2019, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntingAlberta
Sleep with it in the tent. Bears are smarter than that.
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Huh??
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07-24-2019, 05:47 PM
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fith ops, carry the trip line, and ship to Canada
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07-24-2019, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Albertadiver
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Have you seen Ursack? A bear resistant sack that you can put your food items in?
https://www.ursack.com/
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07-24-2019, 09:39 PM
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Thin pipe cut to length with plumbing screw caps on the ends...
Simple, Fast and Frugal.
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PS: Rub a waxy pepper paist on the out side as nothing will touch it... All furry critters fear pepper.
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07-25-2019, 09:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Parsons
Thin pipe cut to length with plumbing screw caps on the ends...
Simple, Fast and Frugal.
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PS: Rub a waxy pepper paist on the out side as nothing will touch it... All furry critters fear pepper.
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So why do they say not to spray bear spray on things as a preventative measure due to the pepper becoming an attractant??
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07-25-2019, 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntingAlberta
Sleep with it in the tent. Bears are smarter than that.
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HuntingAlberta is funny. If you decide to keep food in your tent it becomes a matter of where you put your tent.
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07-26-2019, 12:31 AM
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Usually just in a dry bag in the tent
Dehydrated/ freeze dried meals don't have too much smell. Store your garbage in a ziploc and rinse stuff out well and away from camp
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07-26-2019, 12:13 PM
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I haven't spent much time above timberline, but on the other trips where suitable trees are unavailable or the weight and volume of the food is more than can be reasonably hung I've generally just placed the food a good 300 ft away from camp.
Some may feel otherwise, but I'd rather have my trip ruined and go hungry than wake up with a bear in my tent.
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07-26-2019, 02:18 PM
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Has Alberta ever had a bear attack a person in a tent?
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07-26-2019, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntingAlberta
Has Alberta ever had a bear attack a person in a tent?
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Yep. One a few weeks ago
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07-26-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HuntingAlberta
Has Alberta ever had a bear attack a person in a tent?
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Yes. At Wapiti campground in Jasper park about a month ago. A 2 year old grizzly jumped onto a tent at night. Nobody injured as far as I know, and the bear was hazed for the two weeks following, since it kept on getting into trouble around town.
I believe that they put down the bear this week.
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07-26-2019, 03:40 PM
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[QUOTE=dave99;4006402]Yes. At Wapiti campground in Jasper park about a month ago. A 2 year old grizzly jumped onto a tent at night. Nobody injured as far as I know, and the bear was hazed for the two weeks following, since it kept on getting into trouble around town.
I believe that they put down the bear this week.
You mean to say the Feds put the not so abundant grizzly down, why would they do that when they say no hunting for all of Us, out of the parks.
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07-26-2019, 04:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntingAlberta
Has Alberta ever had a bear attack a person in a tent?
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Two sheep hunters in a tent in BC a few years back comes to mind.
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07-26-2019, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HikeIt
Really? This goes against everything I ever learned about bear safety, I definitely would have thought it better to stash food a couple hundred metres away from the tent.
Never had any trouble doing this?
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Could be one Hell of a wake up call.
Grizz
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07-26-2019, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntingAlberta
Has Alberta ever had a bear attack a person in a tent?
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Somebody got bit through the side on the Panther River road a few years ago. Location is no protection.
Grizz
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07-27-2019, 09:08 AM
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Gone Hunting
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I've has bears against our tent on more than one occasion day or night. In the alpine and along the lakeside. We've tried bell lines, and a hot wire . the best is a dog but we need a couple incidents involving gov't officials to get past the ignorance.
When I lived in B.C. dogs were allowed to accompany a hunter, In 30 years of hunting mountains swamp and everything in between I never had an issue with dogs, but more than once they got steak for supper for saving the day.
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07-28-2019, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfrog
I've has bears against our tent on more than one occasion day or night. In the alpine and along the lakeside. We've tried bell lines, and a hot wire. the best is a dog but we need a couple incidents involving gov't officials to get past the ignorance.
When I lived in B.C. dogs were allowed to accompany a hunter, In 30 years of hunting mountains swamp and everything in between I never had an issue with dogs, but more than once they got steak for supper for saving the day.
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Agreed. Dogs with shorter legs can run circles around bears. Aside from the bigger bear dogs long legged dogs don't move as quick and tend to get swatted. When I was staying in BC my friend had 2 small dogs that were way better than bear spray by far. The black bears we encountered got so flustered by the dogs circling and nipping that the bears always took off promptly.
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08-25-2019, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Bullets
Agreed. Dogs with shorter legs can run circles around bears. Aside from the bigger bear dogs long legged dogs don't move as quick and tend to get swatted. When I was staying in BC my friend had 2 small dogs that were way better than bear spray by far. The black bears we encountered got so flustered by the dogs circling and nipping that the bears always took off promptly.
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Hopefully this rule gets changed soon
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09-07-2019, 09:45 PM
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When there’s no trees for hanging, we usually just keep all food and garbage in dry bags in the tent and keep that rifle close by with one in the tube.
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09-07-2019, 10:51 PM
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Above treeline look for a vertical cliff to suspend your food off of.
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