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03-31-2017, 10:35 AM
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Eotech- Christian Values Company my Butt
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...le-sights.html
http://soldiersystems.net/2015/11/24...eotech-sights/
The U.S. Government sued and settled with Eoteck for making and selling to the forces electronic sights that they knew were defective and suffered from POI shifts in weather extremes. This is the same company that uses thank you advertisements to the men and women armed first responders as their primary marking tool. By linking their products to these ads and claiming the Eotech helps save duty personnel's lives when they knew about these defects is unconscionable.
Personally I will never buy another Eotech product as long as I live. Hopefully enough other people do the same to send them a clear message. What baffles me is Police forces and the Military continue to buy from them when Aimpoint is available and is a better made sight. I guess price is more important to the purchasing office.
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03-31-2017, 11:28 AM
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If a place of business or corporation needs to advertise that they operate on Christian values, they probably don't.
A construction management company I did work for had it posted on their website, and then proceeded to try to screw me every opportunity they had.
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03-31-2017, 11:43 AM
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Unfortunately it's nothing more than marketing, somebody looking at there primary customers figured it would appeal to them, nothing more.
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03-31-2017, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Newview01
If a place of business or corporation needs to advertise that they operate on Christian values, they probably don't.
A construction management company I did work for had it posted on their website, and then proceeded to try to screw me every opportunity they had.
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I have found this to be true of most people that make a thing of proclaiming their religious values.
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03-31-2017, 12:47 PM
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Two companies that I know of that quote scripture are Timney and Hogdgon.
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03-31-2017, 12:50 PM
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Isn't religion bashing supposed to be illegal on AO?
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03-31-2017, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistagin
Isn't religion bashing supposed to be illegal on AO?
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I don't think they are bashing religion but the people who say they are so righteous to gain business, Mistagin.
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03-31-2017, 01:07 PM
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Timney
I carry that yellow card in my wallet. Spoke to me at one of the most trying times in my life. Undoubtedly, the owners are Christian, but the card makes no mention of scripture, and uses the ubiquitous term "God". Not too offensive. If it does "offend" you, then I'd say you are too easily offended, which in my estimation is one of the biggest ailments of today's society.
As for companies that actually put Scripture on their products, both In and Out Burger & Chik-Fil-A do so. Everyone always has the choice to vote with their wallet.
As for this Eotech outfit, not good at all. When advertising is overt, and meant to appeal to a certain religion, I am not a fan, regardless of religion.
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03-31-2017, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sns2
I carry that yellow card in my wallet. Spoke to me at one of the most trying times in my life. Undoubtedly, the owners are Christian, but the card makes no mention of scripture, and uses the ubiquitous term "God". Not too offensive. If it does "offend" you, then I'd say you are too easily offended, which in my estimation is one of the biggest ailments of today's society.
As for companies that actually put Scripture on their products, both In and Out Burger & Chik-Fil-A do so. Everyone always has the choice to vote with their wallet.
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Pretty sure he last two triggers i put into rifles had a little card in them with a piece of scripture on them, can't remember which one , but I have them in my roll away somewhere.
Doesn't bother me personally in the least but anyone who knows me well knows why.
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03-31-2017, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean2
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...le-sights.html
http://soldiersystems.net/2015/11/24...eotech-sights/
The U.S. Government sued and settled with Eoteck for making and selling to the forces electronic sights that they knew were defective and suffered from POI shifts in weather extremes. This is the same company that uses thank you advertisements to the men and women armed first responders as their primary marking tool. By linking their products to these ads and claiming the Eotech helps save duty personnel's lives when they knew about these defects is unconscionable.
Personally I will never buy another Eotech product as long as I live. Hopefully enough other people do the same to send them a clear message. What baffles me is Police forces and the Military continue to buy from them when Aimpoint is available and is a better made sight. I guess price is more important to the purchasing office.
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Having used both aimpoint and eotech optics in the US Army I hands down would rather have the eotech. This is relatively old news as this "s candle" has been going on for a while. Several friends had theirs bought back by the company and went right back out and bought the new version. Having seen the damage an eotech can take and still function, imnot to worried about their accuracy. Even if I was that's why my rifle has a BIS. To each their own I suppose.
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03-31-2017, 02:58 PM
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Here is what comes in the Timney Trigger box. A poem, that I would guess could speak to all who consider themselves to believe in God. I'm strongly guessing they are Christian people.
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03-31-2017, 04:42 PM
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Right, that is it!
A parable, not scripture as such!
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03-31-2017, 08:55 PM
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My Buck knives also come with a scripture verse.
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03-31-2017, 09:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sns2
Here is what comes in the Timney Trigger box. A poem, that I would guess could speak to all who consider themselves to believe in God. I'm strongly guessing they are Christian people.
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
Right, that is it!
A parable, not scripture as such!
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Yes,i have seen this .
It has been my appreciation.
Question?
What is the difference between a post and a post that questions ?
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03-31-2017, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by purgatory.sv
Yes,i have seen this .
It has been my appreciation.
Question?
What is the difference between a post and a post that questions ?
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Speak in English, and via pm, and I will do my best to answer.
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03-31-2017, 09:24 PM
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Thank you
Thank you .
But who defines what is poetry?
When you read scripture it evokes or inspires.
Interpretation is what you use.
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03-31-2017, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sns2
Speak in English, and via pm, and I will do my best to answer.
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I now will apologize.
I am a guest on this forum.
I do know some who share ,and will support.
But as a guest i can not pass judgement .
I am learning.
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03-31-2017, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
Two companies that I know of that quote scripture are Timney and Hogdgon.
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yah cat, weatherby has a scripture quote in there adds and headings as well. it makes no statement as to whether its the 'right' one or the shtgun approach to a marketing plan.
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03-31-2017, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by purgatory.sv
I now will apologize.
I am a guest on this forum.
I do know some who share ,and will support.
But as a guest i can not pass judgement .
I am learning.
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As always, I am about of average intelligence, and still have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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03-31-2017, 10:12 PM
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I will again apologise.
My setting are now open on this forum?
My comments on this thread are neutral?
Scripture and poetry are always open to what you wish ?
Scripture poetry and verse can be a means to inform?
Life will never be simple?
If my participation on the thread has caused a conflict please take the appropriate action.
Thank you.
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03-31-2017, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by purgatory.sv
I will again apologise.
My setting are now open on this forum?
My comments on this thread are neutral?
Scripture and poetry are always open to what you wish ?
Scripture poetry and verse can be a means to inform?
Life will never be simple?
If my participation on the thread has caused a conflict please take the appropriate action.
Thank you.
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Confusion? Yes.
Conflict? By no means
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04-02-2017, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by traderal
My Buck knives also come with a scripture verse.
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I used to own several Buck Knives. Each of them came with a note. IIRC it said that the reason Buck Knives were so successful was because they recognized God as their senior partner or Chairman of the Board. I used to think Buck was a good value for the $buck$.
Now with their new product that is made in China I think they have partnered with compromise and bottom line and they no longer have a product that their senior partner would be pleased with.
I still like my older Buck Knives!
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Berger bullet boxes often come with quotes from Mark Twain. Quite funny, entertaining and so true to life.
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04-02-2017, 07:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by purgatory.sv
I will again apologise.
My setting are now open on this forum?
My comments on this thread are neutral?
Scripture and poetry are always open to what you wish ?
Scripture poetry and verse can be a means to inform?
Life will never be simple?
If my participation on the thread has caused a conflict please take the appropriate action.
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Weird or conflicted perhaps?
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04-02-2017, 07:42 PM
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Trijicon puts a Bible verse on their optics.
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04-02-2017, 08:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by covey ridge
I used to own several Buck Knives. Each of them came with a note. IIRC it said that the reason Buck Knives were so successful was because they recognized God as their senior partner or Chairman of the Board. I used to think Buck was a good value for the $buck$.
Now with their new product that is made in China I think they have partnered with compromise and bottom line and they no longer have a product that their senior partner would be pleased with.
I still like my older Buck Knives!
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Quite a few buck knives are still made in Idaho.
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Originally Posted by fordtruckin
Quite a few buck knives are still made in Idaho.
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Yes there is, but seems at the same time that Buck started in China, they used a cheaper steel for the American made one. I have an old buck 119 that I can not destroy. I have pounded with hatchet butts and rocks to split the spine lengthwise on moose and it always is put in use when a pelvis isn't as easy to split. After all this the back is quite dented but the edge has been true.
I have been using this old knife for this type of chore for about 30 years.
A couple years ago I was having a difficult time with a pelvis of an older cow elk with my swing blaze and my hunting partner handed me his newer buck 119. I used a stick to pound it through the pelvis and took three chips out of the edge and bent the rest. Buck replaced that blade but also told me that they now use 420 steel instead of 440.
I think Buck no longer invites their senior partner to their business.
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