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05-26-2017, 06:30 AM
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6.5 Creedmoor at the top for sales
http://www.outdoorlife.com/evolution-65-creedmoor
Great article on why the 6.5 is at the top for ammo sales.
Now with the black rifles in it it's coming together as the big winner.
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05-26-2017, 06:56 AM
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Hornady and the firearms manufacturers did a great job of marketing, the cartridge. It has become one of those cartridges that has become the cartridge to own for many people, and many of those people don't even know why. Yes it performs well, but in a bolt action rifle, it really offers nothing that you can't get with the 6.5x47L or the 260rem.
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Hornady and the firearms manufacturers did a great job of marketing, the cartridge. It has become one of those cartridges that has become the cartridge to own for many people, and many of those people don't even know why. Yes it performs well, but in a bolt action rifle, it really offers nothing that you can't get with the 6.5x47L or the 260rem.
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x2 ........ very well marketed and definitely one of those offerings that everyone thinks they need.
I am very happy with my 6.5x55. When people ask what i am shooting at the local range and I say 6.5 they automatically assume Creedmore. Surprising number of blank looks when I say no, it`s a 6.5 by 55 or `6.5 Swede`.
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05-26-2017, 07:38 AM
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Pure marketing genius. Just sounds cool.
I want one too
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05-26-2017, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lone wolf
x2 ........ very well marketed and definitely one of those offerings that everyone thinks they need.
I am very happy with my 6.5x55. When people ask what i am shooting at the local range and I say 6.5 they automatically assume Creedmore. Surprising number of blank looks when I say no, it`s a 6.5 by 55 or `6.5 Swede`.
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I am in the same boat with my swede. A lot of blank looks on peoples faces. They sure made a good one 120 years ago.
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05-26-2017, 08:01 AM
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Well, they are generally twisted correctly. There is room to seat long bullets in the magazine, and there is a good supply of factory ammunition. If that is the genius it takes to market a rifle then there are a lot of dumb firearms marketing departments out there.
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05-26-2017, 10:36 AM
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The CM is great cartridge for sure but with a 140 gr bullet, or heavier, it still won't do anything the old Swede with a modern action won't do .. unless it sports a 28 " barrel.
The fact that it uses a short action and can be used in an autoloader are about the only real advantages I see in the Creedmore.
Too bad that the current SAAMI specs for the 100 year old 6.5x55 hamstrung a near perfect cartridge - and good on Hornady for identifying a marketing niche and making it work. They are going to sell a lot of ammo for this one. Ballistically speaking,the more things change, the more they stay the same. As a hunting cartridge, my money is on the Swede.
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05-26-2017, 11:49 AM
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The 6.5 Creedmoor is more than just marketing genius, it's taking some good and making it great.... almost flawless. Anyone who thinks it's just cool marketing is mistaken. The reasons for it's popularity are far beyond marketing. It's birth was on the shooting range, however it's benefits have made it an excellent choice for North American big game hunting.
Not surprising that it tops the sales charts, I imagine it will for some time.
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05-26-2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sns2
Pure marketing genius. Just sounds cool.
I want one too
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I know right?
Was looking at a 260 rem but this creedmoor sounds way better
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05-26-2017, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurt505
The 6.5 Creedmoor is more than just marketing genius, it's taking some good and making it great.... almost flawless. Anyone who thinks it's just cool marketing is mistaken. The reasons for it's popularity are far beyond marketing. It's birth was on the shooting range, however it's benefits have made it an excellent choice for North American big game hunting.
Not surprising that it tops the sales charts, I imagine it will for some time.
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Did you order one you bugger???
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05-26-2017, 02:54 PM
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Did you order one you bugger???
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Awesome!
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05-26-2017, 03:15 PM
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I like the 260 and 260imp personally.
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Im super happy with my 6.5 CM! Hit 1450yds with it last weekend. Brought my 300WM to the range to and left in the gun case. New favorite round and rifle.
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05-26-2017, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck
Well, they are generally twisted correctly. There is room to seat long bullets in the magazine, and there is a good supply of factory ammunition. If that is the genius it takes to market a rifle then there are a lot of dumb firearms marketing departments out there.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt505
The 6.5 Creedmoor is more than just marketing genius, it's taking some good and making it great.... almost flawless. Anyone who thinks it's just cool marketing is mistaken. The reasons for it's popularity are far beyond marketing. It's birth was on the shooting range, however it's benefits have made it an excellent choice for North American big game hunting.
Not surprising that it tops the sales charts, I imagine it will for some time.
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It's marketing. I've had a 6.5x47L hanging around since 2008 and it's all the same. But started with great brass.
130gr VLDs at 2850fps plain kills things and using 40gr of powder to do it is better.
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05-26-2017, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Salavee
The CM is great cartridge for sure but with a 140 gr bullet, or heavier, it still won't do anything the old Swede with a modern action won't do .. unless it sports a 28 " barrel.
The fact that it uses a short action and can be used in an autoloader are about the only real advantages I see in the Creedmore.
Too bad that the current SAAMI specs for the 100 year old 6.5x55 hamstrung a near perfect cartridge - and good on Hornady for identifying a marketing niche and making it work. They are going to sell a lot of ammo for this one. Ballistically speaking,the more things change, the more they stay the same. As a hunting cartridge, my money is on the Swede.
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X 2,on the 110 year old Swede, works fine for me, moose, elk(275yards one shot drops) black bears and many many deer, nothing escaped or lost,and ALL but a coupe one shot flops,
But 140 grn Berger VLD at 2800 fps from a hundred year old cartridge Is just very boring ,
Not , Exciting For inexperienced and the ignorant,
But then ,
My wife is Lately using NewImproved Laundry detergent, it looks and smells and performs like the Original unimproved detergent,
But it costs MORE ,, improved ???
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05-26-2017, 09:48 PM
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X 2,on the 110 year old Swede, works fine for me, moose, elk(275yards one shot drops) black bears and many many deer, nothing escaped or lost,and ALL but a coupe one shot flops,
But 140 grn Berger VLD at 2800 fps from a hundred year old cartridge Is just very boring ,
Not , Exciting For inexperienced and the ignorant,
But then ,
My wife is Lately using NewImproved Laundry detergent, it looks and smells and performs like the Original unimproved detergent,
But it costs MORE ,, improved ???
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Nice......
Does it come in a short action?
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05-26-2017, 10:02 PM
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X #_ ... how Swede it is
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05-26-2017, 10:15 PM
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Maybe I missed it, but does the article actually state that the "6.5 is at the top for ammo sales"?
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05-26-2017, 10:15 PM
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6.5
The best part of all this, is the bullet selection and availability will improve for all 6.5 users !
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05-26-2017, 11:03 PM
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I have a 260 i load 108s and 140s 2.8 inches and thats it. What kind of target cartridge is that i dont know where the lands start and it wouldnt make any difference anyway plus the bullets are set well below the neck. It works well for me but isnt the creedmoor a better cartridge
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05-26-2017, 11:26 PM
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I drank the 6.5-284 kool-aide instead and so far am very happy. Just something about the 6.5 cm didn't appeal to me. I built on a tikka t3 action so maybe that influenced my thoughts.
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05-26-2017, 11:48 PM
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.260 and the 6.5x55 are ballistic twins..where they screwed up on the .260 is in the neck should have left it similiar to the .243 ...but I am sure they did what they did so the round would not fit in the wrong rifle and get them sued.
108 Lapua Secnars and 140 Berger in both rifles shoot very well on targets.
140 in a hunting bullet is more then enough for most NM game. except if the game can bite back EG: big bear.
You folks are just figuring out the round I have been shooting for over 35 years...and you think you get strange looks now..lol
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Quote:
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Well, they are generally twisted correctly. There is room to seat long bullets in the magazine, and there is a good supply of factory ammunition. If that is the genius it takes to market a rifle then there are a lot of dumb firearms marketing departments out there.
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X 6.5
Hit the nail on the head. While everyone else said "use what we give you or handload", Hornady delivered. Sure wish they could make ammo faster though, it's still somewhat hard to find.
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