Greenparty Hoplophobe tables new firearms rule

[hillbillyreefer]

New Firearms act rules proposed by an Ontario based Bruce Hyer. It's a private members bill from a dipper that crossed the floor to be a Greenie weenie, it doesn't stand a chance. It should be taken as a warning that these people are still in politics and still hate firearms and their owners.
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1st Session, 41st Parliament,
1re session, 41e législature,
60-61 Elizabeth II, 2011-2012
60-61 Elizabeth II, 2011-2012
house of commons of canada
chambre des communes du canada
BILL C-440
PROJET DE LOI C-440
An Act to amend the Firearms Act (transfer)

Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:


1. The portion of section 23 of the Firearms Act before paragraph (a) is replaced by the following:

Authorization to transfer firearms neither prohibited nor restricted

23. A person may transfer a firearm that is neither a prohibited firearm nor a restricted firearm only if, at the time of the transfer,

2. Subsection 23.1(1) of the Act is replaced by the following:

23.1 (1) A transferor referred to in section 23 shall request that the Registrar inform the transferor as to whether the transferee, at the time of the transfer, holds and is still eligible to hold the licence referred to in paragraph 23(a), and the Registrar or his or her delegate, or any other person that the federal Minister may designate, shall so inform the transferor.

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[Matt L.]

Um, can someone translate that into common English please?

[Donkey Oatey]

Originally Posted by Matt L.

Um, can someone translate that into common English please?

Looks to me that they want the seller to check with CFC if the buyer actually has a PAL instead of the wording currently which is bluntly very vague.

I don't agree with it because small changes here and there cause bigger changes down the road.

[hillbillyreefer]

Originally Posted by Matt L.

Um, can someone translate that into common English please?

Good thing I edited most of the French out.

Basically if you are selling a firearm you are required not only to see the PAL/RPAL but you are obligated to phone it in and check it's validity.

[Matt L.]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

Good thing I edited most of the French out.

Basically if you are selling a firearm you are required not only to see the PAL/RPAL but you are obligated to phone it in and check it's validity.

Thank you for that

Yeah, that bill can die in a hole, preferably an outhouse hole.

[greylynx]

Or it could be snuck in through the back door by an OIC (Order in Council) without ever going to a vote.

That is what the Cretch and AR-Rock did with C-68.

Unfortunately, Mr. Harper does not want to wreck C-68 using the same OIC's

Not good.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Great...another registry.

The call will be documented along with everyones name as a requirement to provide proof that the check was made.

Just another way of trying to hang two people rather than just the one that actually did something wrong.
Also... yet another law that makes something where no harm is done... a crime.

I agree that people should understand that we have no reason to believe that a buyer can lawfully purchase unless we know them well or we see their license but.... there is already a law in place that can nab the seller if he does just assume.
All that needs to be established is what is considered reason to believe.

Why tighten the noose further?

[Roughneck12]

What does that say and who comes up with this baffle gab? Morons.

[5Lgreenback]

Has the selling of used/ privately owned firearms proven to be an issue? Total waste of time to even focus on this regulation.

[Redfrog]

I think is could be a great crime fighting bill.

Crooks would be so busy on the phone they won't have time for drive bys. Most have curfews as conditions of probation and have to be off the streets before the streetlights come on. I doubt they can sit on 'hold' all day and still get up to bad stuff.

They orobably need some of those illegal light bars on their rides just to get around at night.