Alberta is Doomed !!!!!

[MK2750]

Originally Posted by gbart

I really wonder why I bust my azz 12 hrs a day, worry about how I will get the purple idiot his tax money, pay the mortgage and all the other bills I MUST pay every single god dang month?

I should have just run as the NDP candidate in Calgary Bow.....I would be on easy street for the next 4 years...lots of time and funds to hunt and fish and drink....with the odd commute up to Edmonton for some "work" (plus well on my way to a nice pension) ++++

If there are any nice grandmas out there that would like to adopt a real nice, hard working 50+ guy, please send me a PM.....

I guess there is a bunch of people that don't want to end up at 50+ still paying a mortgage and working 12 hours a day.

Some people are making boat loads of money in Alberta but most are like you and I. I was better off 20 years ago. How about you?

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by propliner

So much for starting my new business. I wouldn't dare try now.

Why?

If your venture has merit go it.

[Fireside23]

Post me....... I dare ya.....

[rugatika]

Looking at the election map, I just noticed...not a shred of orange on the Saskatchewan border.

[Buckhead]

Originally Posted by Klondike

He's got the money now he wants the power/prestige. You've obviously got it all figured out. You tell me why he gave up 6mill a year to come to Alberta to be the PREMIER

Pretty easy to figure out. Damage control for the Redford debacle.
Federal conservatives wanted him here.

The premier of AB makes lousy money. A foreman at one of the oilsands mines can do better.

[mich]

Originally Posted by The Elkster

Say you are going to give them an honest try and work to shape plans towards your goals. If it don't work out after giving it an honest effort then flame away. You have nothing to lose Vs assuming the worst and acting accordingly right off the bat. Same goes for business. Okay it may not work out. Not giving it a honest effort and assuming the sky is falling isn't going to help anything or anyone FOR SURE. Take a step into the unknown with a positive attitude.

You sure are generous with other peoples money. I will do like many other business owners.... sit back and wait. I will not risk or proceed with what little confidence that I have in an NDP government as we have dealt with this in several other provinces over the years. The next 4 years are going to be interesting for sure

[trooper]

God help us all! Welcome to the PRA People's Republic of Alberta. Lots of people could see this coming. I am a WR voter, but after that Daniel smith boondoggle I saw the WR as another thinly disguised conservative cluster #%^k. At least I think we'll see auditors come in and clean house.

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by mich

You sure are generous with other peoples money. I will do like many other business owners.... sit back and wait. I will not risk or proceed with what little confidence that I have in an NDP government as we have dealt with this in several other provinces over the years. The next 4 years are going to be interesting for sure

Heard this several times already tonight. People are going to be sitting on their capital.

[bridger2010]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Just got off the phone with a guy I know in Calgary at one of the oil companies. He said it's too early to panic, but it just got a lot harder to get any investment in the province now.

I bet the call looled like this:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...a-selfie-tweet

[silverdoctor]

All doom and gloom... Bloody sky isn't falling.

Cripes sake, let Prentice's chair get cold. Maybe Notley will surprise.



Guess I wasn't far off in saying 4 years of this

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by gbart

I really wonder why I bust my azz 12 hrs a day, worry about how I will get the purple idiot his tax money, pay the mortgage and all the other bills I MUST pay every single god dang month?

I should have just run as the NDP candidate in Calgary Bow.....I would be on easy street for the next 4 years...lots of time and funds to hunt and fish and drink....with the odd commute up to Edmonton for some "work" (plus well on my way to a nice pension) ++++

If there are any nice grandmas out there that would like to adopt a real nice, hard working 50+ guy, please send me a PM.....

Life is good?

Good luck on your quest.


I am being shallow and building post count.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by The Elkster

I work in oil and not have one direct family member working for any gov't agency. Just tired of far right uneducated vitriol. Balance is important in a democracy. 44 yrs with the same party is a frickin' joke and recipe for imbalance. I am willing to share some of my paycheck to ensure Canada remains what it is. Social service are grossly undervalued by the right...until they need them. Peace

Typical lefty BS. Uneducated vitriol? You sound like a 21 year-old,entitled, basement dweller.

My sigline is for halfwits like you.

Your plan is to take from doers and give to do nots. Social issues are to be taken care of by people individually; the NDP see themselves as "Robin Hood". Stealing from the working to give as they see fit. That's theft, and you aren't Robin Hood.

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

All doom and gloom... Bloody sky isn't falling.

Cripes sake, let Prentice's chair get cold. Maybe Notley will surprise.



Guess I wasn't far off in saying 4 years of this

I can’t confirm the prediction posts.

But I believe you are correct?

Congratulations!!!!


Good.

[mich]

Originally Posted by Mossyoak

This Elkster guy is hilarious...
All fired for the NDP, defending with all guns a blazing...

I'm trying to guess his occupation or his education, any ideas guys ???

school teacher

[1000yards]

Any way to force a election sooner??

[32-40win]

I don't even want to contemplate what kind of a clusterflop this could turn into, the investment money in this province probably just went into the freezer.
That girl had best be figuring a way to thaw it out, can't take taxes from money that is not spent, and not earned by someone or something, to be taxed.

[mich]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Heard this several times already tonight. People are going to be sitting on their capital.

The meetings over the next week are going to be brutal, we were to start 2 major projects next week, the cash will be sitting in the bank for a long while

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by 1000yards

Any way to force a election sooner??

So, you like democracy except when it doesn't go your way?

[brslk]

You do know that if half the companies that claim they will pull out of Alberta, a dozen will step in.
If I owned a corporation that made 100 million dollars last year, fifty would still be pretty good.
Where are they gonna go?

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by 1000yards

Any way to force a election sooner??

Revolution!!!!









Fire is better.

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by brslk

You do know that if half the companies that claim they will pull out of Alberta, a dozen will step in.
If I owned a corporation that made 100 million dollars last year, fifty would still be pretty good.
Where are they gonna go?

How much money did it cost you to make that 100million? Increased taxes, up in the air royalty rates until the NDP finish their review, etc. That 5% ROI that gave you 100million just turned into 1% or 2% or maybe a loss of 2% or who knows until the NDP demonstrate what they are going to do with royalty rates, carbon taxes, how they are going to treat companies etc. There is a lot of uncertainty for companies when dealing with a left wing government.

I wouldn't dump a couple billion dollars into a project when oil prices are on shaky ground and the government that just took power has a reputation of badmouthing corporations in general and the oil industry specifically.

I'm surprised you wouldn't think to ask any of that until AFTER the election.

[mich]

Originally Posted by brslk

You do know that if half the companies that claim they will pull out of Alberta, a dozen will step in.
If I owned a corporation that made 100 million dollars last year, fifty would still be pretty good.
Where are they gonna go?

And the stock holders would fire your ass. risk versus reward

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by rugatika

How much money did it cost you to make that 100million? Increased taxes, up in the air royalty rates until the NDP finish their review, etc. That 5% ROI that gave you 100million just turned into 1% or 2% or maybe a loss of 2% or who knows until the NDP demonstrate what they are going to do with royalty rates, carbon taxes, how they are going to treat companies etc. There is a lot of uncertainty for companies when dealing with a left wing government.

I wouldn't dump a couple billion dollars into a project when oil prices are on shaky ground and the government that just took power has a reputation of badmouthing corporations in general and the oil industry specifically.

I'm surprised you wouldn't think to ask any of that until AFTER the election.

Are you at risk?

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by mich

The meetings over the next week are going to be brutal, we were to start 2 major projects next week, the cash will be sitting in the bank for a long while

So you are at risk?

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by purgatory.sv

Are you at risk?

risk of what?

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by mich

The meetings over the next week are going to be brutal, we were to start 2 major projects next week, the cash will be sitting in the bank for a long while

Why are you posting on an open forum?

[brslk]

Originally Posted by mich

And the stock holders would fire your ass. risk versus reward

What are YOU invested in? where is YOUR money?

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by rugatika

risk of what?

Losing what you have invested?

[Albertacoyotecaller]

Where are they going to go? They aren't your mom and pop convenience store. You think the big oil companies don't have other places they can put there money and get good returns on investment?

As for those that said they would share their money to make a better place. Pm me and I will give you my address to send a cheque to. Oh that's right, it isn't that simple. It has to go to the gov first which is going to grow and grow and then off to the people that need it according to someone else's standards.

As soon as I know a phone number to call, I am calling and voicing my opinion on gov workers wages and pensions and asking for a wage freeze and pension renegotiating. We have to balance a budget somehow and we might as well start there.

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by purgatory.sv

Losing what you have invested?

Sold all my oil and gas stocks well before the election. Own a house though. Time will tell.