Guess what really happens ro your recycling ?

[Grizzly Adams]

I've known this for a while, but what a waste of money and effort people are going through to "save the Planet"

https://globalnews.ca/news/4906939/c...ustin-trudeau/


Grizz

[tri777]

Canadians throwing away more garbage
than ever, according to Statistics Canada,
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I am always amused by this hogwash where the burden is laid at
the consumers feet. Here, fixed just for you Statistics Canada,the truth:

"Industry making more garbage than ever for consumers to contend with"

[calgarychef]

Agreed, it’s a waste of time and resources. Almost all of our blue bin cart contents end up in landfill anyway.

[barbless]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

Agreed, it’s a waste of time and resources. Almost all of our blue bin cart contents end up in landfill anyway.

Yup that's right they (the people) either don't care what goes in the recycle cart or just don't have a clue what doesn't go in the recycle cart. Some are even so excited they got the compost cart cause now they figure they have 3 garbage carts

[lannie]

The one I have a hard time with is cardboard recycling. I have heard it goes down to the states. How can you truck old cardboard into the states and think you are doing the environment any good. Some of the recycle centres are subsidized with property taxes to do this "recycling".

[Habfan]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

I've known this for a while, but what a waste of money and effort people are going through to "save the Planet"

https://globalnews.ca/news/4906939/c...ustin-trudeau/


Grizz

Recycling is not a waste of $ and the NON EFFORT of people properly recycling and composting needs to be addressed !

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by Habfan

Recycling is not a waste of $ and the NON EFFORT of people properly recycling and composting needs to be addressed !

Partially true... people throw everything into a blue cart and think it’s going to be taken care of ....it ain’t!

There was a chick on CBC who spent a whole year tossing her stuff in the green and blue bins. She was so proud that all she had was one black bin in a whole year. I can damn sure guarantee that all of her blue bin stuff went to the landfill because it wasn’t sorted properly.

[Habfan]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

Partially true... people throw everything into a blue cart and think it’s going to be taken care of ....it ain’t!

There was a chick on CBC who spent a whole year tossing her stuff in the green and blue bins. She was so proud that all she had was one black bin in a whole year. I can damn sure guarantee that all of her blue bin stuff went to the landfill because it wasn’t sorted properly.

I know Some people throw everything in the blue and green bin without even knowing or caring. I’m in the industry. These are the people that should be educated and then fined if repeat offenders. The product is sorted by machines 60% of the time and the machine can’t differentiate between clean and dirty items that are passing by. This is the major cause of contamination of our recycling material, and the reason other countries don’t want it. It’s our own fault.

[Smoky buck]

15+years ago I drove a recycling truck route and I can tell you about 80% went straight to the dump

Don’t know what it is like now but that was an eye opener

[Habfan]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

15+years ago I drove a recycling truck route and I can tell you about 80% went straight to the dump

Don’t know what it is like now but that was an eye opener

It’s much better than that, but after 15 years it should almost be non existent

[AndrewM]

Willing to bet if the city picked up the garbage weekly then there wouldn’t be near as much in the recycling.

[Habfan]

Originally Posted by AndrewM

Willing to bet if the city picked up the garbage weekly then there wouldn’t be near as much in the recycling.

Yup !

[Sashi]

If you buy some larger products 75% of it is styrofoam, which you can't put in the green or blue containers, and as soon as you put it in the black container it's full and there's no room for real garbage.

[ganderblaster]

I chuckle when I see the cardboard only dumpsters dumped in the local landfill or the retail store or coffee shop employees throwing the recycling bin only contents into the dumpster behind the store. People feel so good about their choices though.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Habfan

Recycling is not a waste of $ and the NON EFFORT of people properly recycling and composting needs to be addressed !

I agree, Recycling is mandatory, but the Reality is, it's just another scam being perpetrated on the Masses. It's just not economical to do it they way we are being told it is, even the people in charge realize this, so we just land fill it or ship it overseas for someone else to do deal with it and they've had enough.

Grizz

[guysmiley]

Look up Penn and teller's episode on recycling. Hilarious.

[calgarychef]

In a couple European countries folks are very serious about proper sorting, they’ve obviously been trained properly too. And they have inspectors who hand out fines if it’s not done correctly.

[AndrewM]

Why push all the recycling on the consumers. Push it on the retailers to make less packaging! So much wasted packaging. Containers inside of boxes inside of cellophane wrap.

[lmtada]

[QUOTE=calgarychef;3922704]In a couple European countries folks are very serious about proper sorting, they’ve obviously been trained properly too. And they have inspectors who hand out fines if it’s not done correctly.[/QUOTE

Edmonton has one largest recycling systems in North America. Edmonton has Enerkem biofuels, and composting. Located off highway #16 North side of Sherwood Park.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9...J6bU1rD2A2.Is-

There is a sorting process/conveyor belt. People sort through recyclables. 50% of products are then processed through Enerkems Gasification system to produce products (methanol, and ethanol). The buyers of these recyclable products are Cosmetic companies, resource companies, plastic manufacturers. The second train for Ethanol is now online.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by AndrewM

Why push all the recycling on the consumers. Push it on the retailers to make less packaging! So much wasted packaging. Containers inside of boxes inside of cellophane wrap.

Been saying this for years

Regulations against wasteful packaging would make more environmental impact then stupid carbon taxes

[59whiskers]

They are probably using the recycled material to build a ski hill at Ryley, AB. Maybe Shannon Phillips can build a ski hill there and build a condo resort there too.

[fishtank]

Originally Posted by ganderblaster

I chuckle when I see the cardboard only dumpsters dumped in the local landfill or the retail store or coffee shop employees throwing the recycling bin only contents into the dumpster behind the store. People feel so good about their choices though.

welcome aboard first class on the titanic . bottomline its all about choices eventhought it all end up in the same place.

[El Carnicero]

you know, I've never understood why we just don't incinerate every piece of garbage we make.

If we burned it all, we could capture the emissions and the CO2 into containers (I haven't quite figured all this out as I'm just a simple guy) then use the heat and the CO2 to make electricity.

I don't know if that would work at all but it seems to make sense in my mind.

[El Carnicero]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

Agreed, it’s a waste of time and resources. Almost all of our blue bin cart contents end up in landfill anyway.

Funny enough, I took a bunch of crap to the calgary dump in south calgary a year or so ago.
Funny enough, they were offloading huge pressed and wrapped bails full of paper and recyclable materials.
They were lining them up and stacking then up to make a base for them to then dump dirt and pack it down to make the piles and mounds that we were dumping garbage on.
Over time as Iv'e watched these dumps grow and move around, they wait a few years and then build a new neighborhood on top of the area that was used a a dump.
Makes me think of in the Simpsons movie when they had to move the town because they built Springfield on top of the dump and then the ground started to shift so they needed to move the city haha

[fishtank]

Originally Posted by El Carnicero

Funny enough, I took a bunch of crap to the calgary dump in south calgary a year or so ago.
Funny enough, they were offloading huge pressed and wrapped bails full of paper and recyclable materials.
They were lining them up and stacking then up to make a base for them to then dump dirt and pack it down to make the piles and mounds that we were dumping garbage on.
Over time as Iv'e watched these dumps grow and move around, they wait a few years and then build a new neighborhood on top of the area that was used a a dump.
Makes me think of in the Simpsons movie when they had to move the town because they built Springfield on top of the dump and then the ground started to shift so they needed to move the city haha

Few neighbourhood in Edmonton is build on top of a dump/swamp

[Huntsman]

In Morinville they're refusing "blue bags" and putting a pink sticky on them with improper contents.

[AndrewM]

Originally Posted by El Carnicero

you know, I've never understood why we just don't incinerate every piece of garbage we make.

If we burned it all, we could capture the emissions and the CO2 into containers (I haven't quite figured all this out as I'm just a simple guy) then use the heat and the CO2 to make electricity.

I don't know if that would work at all but it seems to make sense in my mind.

Potentially take that CO2 and inject into oil formations for tertiary recovery.

[6.5 shooter]

CBC radio had a big tado about this this morning on the way to work how they (the government) was going to charge the big bad company polluters and we ( the tax payer ) would get off ..FREE......LOL you can't fix stupid there is only one person with money....and they will pay one way or the other.

Another feel good story to sucker in the ill informed JUST before an election.

[Habfan]

Originally Posted by El Carnicero

Funny enough, I took a bunch of crap to the calgary dump in south calgary a year or so ago.
Funny enough, they were offloading huge pressed and wrapped bails full of paper and recyclable materials.
They were lining them up and stacking then up to make a base for them to then dump dirt and pack it down to make the piles and mounds that we were dumping garbage on.
Over time as Iv'e watched these dumps grow and move around, they wait a few years and then build a new neighborhood on top of the area that was used a a dump.
Makes me think of in the Simpsons movie when they had to move the town because they built Springfield on top of the dump and then the ground started to shift so they needed to move the city haha

The recycling facility in Calgary compresses the dirty recycling, also known as garbage, into bales and sends them to the landfill to be disposed of !

[urban rednek]

The truth about plastics recycling: it was an advertising campaign based on lies from the very beginning. So many drank the Koolaid while others lined their pockets.
Always follow the money.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/89769...=pocket-newtab

A few excerpts:

"I remember the first meeting where I actually told a city council that it was costing more to recycle than it was to dispose of the same material as garbage," she says, "and it was like heresy had been spoken in the room: You're lying. This is gold. We take the time to clean it, take the labels off, separate it and put it here. It's gold. This is valuable."

But it's not valuable, and it never has been. And what's more, the makers of plastic — the nation's largest oil and gas companies — have known this all along, even as they spent millions of dollars telling the American public the opposite.

Note the text in bold, sound familiar?

Even as the ads played and the projects got underway, Thomas and Freeman say industry officials wanted to get recycling plastic into people's homes and outside on their curbs with blue bins.
The industry created a special group called the Council for Solid Waste Solutions and brought a man from DuPont, Ron Liesemer, over to run it.

Liesemer's job was to at least try to make recycling work — because there was some hope, he said, however unlikely, that maybe if they could get recycling started, somehow the economics of it all would work itself out.

Industry documents from this time show that just a couple of years earlier, starting in 1989, oil and plastics executives began a quiet campaign to lobby almost 40 states to mandate that the symbol appear on all plastic — even if there was no way to economically recycle it. Some environmentalists also supported the symbol, thinking it would help separate plastic.

Smith said what it did was make all plastic look recyclable.