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06-21-2016, 08:07 AM
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Dont think this is suppose to happen.
By the looks of it, my fletching is hitting on the way by. Is this a big deal? my groups are great but id like to fix it.
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06-21-2016, 08:24 AM
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I had the same problem on my QAD rest. I ended up turning my fletches about an eighth of a turn to they came past the rest and frame alright. I tried moving my fletching back towards the knock and running them cock feather down but the rest couldn't keep up. I only had this issue after about 6 months of steady shooting. I ended up changing rests to a faster one with a larger fletch window.
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06-21-2016, 08:39 AM
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Are you shooting cock came up or down? If shooting down try shooting up. I have switched to Hamskea rests on my 3d and Target bows, might make the switch to my hunting bow too.
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06-21-2016, 08:49 AM
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Shooting cock up, I may try rotating it before I go and buy a new rest as I just bought this one
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06-21-2016, 08:56 AM
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Shooting cock up, I may try rotating it before I go and buy a new rest as I just bought this one
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Your centre shot could be out or your timing on the rest off, where did you have it set up? What bow is it on?
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06-21-2016, 09:05 AM
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Fletching contact will not be as noticeable with field or target tips but may be critical with broadheads...causing bad flight...
Use some suggestions above ..or couple more... index nock so max clearance is used...assure center arrow on rest 13/16 from riser...paper tune bow for fishtail arrow..
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06-21-2016, 09:11 AM
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Matthews Drenalin. Got it set up at Jim Bows Calgary. not overly impressed, they put new string on to and put my peep a inch out also, so i had to change my draw and anchor point. My fault I didn't shoot it before I left I guess as I live 1 1/2 hours from any bow shop and im definitely not a bow tech.
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06-21-2016, 09:17 AM
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Matthews Drenalin. Got it set up at Jim Bows Calgary. not overly impressed, they put new string on to and put my peep a inch out also, so i had to change my draw and anchor point. My fault I didn't shoot it before I left I guess as I live 1 1/2 hours from any bow shop and im definitely not a bow tech.
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They will look after you, head back in when you have the time to shoot and get it setup to your eye...etc.
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Matthews Drenalin. Got it set up at Jim Bows Calgary. not overly impressed, they put new string on to and put my peep a inch out also, so i had to change my draw and anchor point. My fault I didn't shoot it before I left I guess as I live 1 1/2 hours from any bow shop and im definitely not a bow tech.
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How are you anchoring...meaning where is top of center serving in relation to corner of mouth when at full draw and anchor...an inch is a lot from standard!
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06-21-2016, 11:08 AM
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Am I measuring this right? Hard to tell from picture angle but looks like it's about 11/16 so maybe moving it out would fix fletching contact. And that red dot is about where the top of the serving, above nock sits on my face. I can deal with the anchor point adjustment and am already pretty much used to it so that's not a big deal.
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06-21-2016, 11:54 AM
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Am I measuring this right? Hard to tell from picture angle but looks like it's about 11/16 so maybe moving it out would fix fletching contact. And that red dot is about where the top of the serving, above nock sits on my face. I can deal with the anchor point adjustment and am already pretty much used to it so that's not a big deal.
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You look closer to 10/16..to center of rest or arrow on rest....I would try 13/16 as measured there to center of rest/arrow and try that...bet it makes a huge difference...anchor looks good...its just a reference with many strings...
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You look closer to 10/16..to center of rest or arrow on rest....I would try 13/16 as measured there to center of rest/arrow and try that...bet it makes a huge difference...anchor looks good...its just a reference with many strings...
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Is that 13/16" the standard for all bows??
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06-21-2016, 12:29 PM
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Thanks a million people.
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06-21-2016, 12:56 PM
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Is that 13/16" the standard for all bows??
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Yes by design most modern bows...most techs will start 15/16 from riser to center of arrow ...nock point 5/16 above square bottom of arrow
circa 10 years back 11/16 worked on most compounds with drop aways...the Ugly cookie was the exception it has always been at 13/16 and 5/16
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06-21-2016, 04:29 PM
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looks like I'm closer to 12/16 if 13/16 doesn't fix the fletch contact can i just keep moving it out until it clears?
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06-21-2016, 04:48 PM
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looks like you could move the launcher arm out one set of holes and then reset center shot... the inside of the rest and the center of the launcher arms is wrong
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06-21-2016, 05:16 PM
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What if I shimmed it at arrow 1. To bring it to closer to flush with the riser at 2. Will the mounting bolt be long enough?
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06-21-2016, 05:55 PM
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looks like you could move the launcher arm out one set of holes and then reset center shot... the inside of the rest and the center of the launcher arms is wrong
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Agree, hard to tell but if the launcher can be moved away from the riser one more position it would certainly help....reset centre shot after as suggested.
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do not shim just move the launcher arm out one more hole ... its two little screws that hold it on undo them move it over one hole and screw back in and redo center shot and make sure it is tuned properly
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06-22-2016, 08:28 AM
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It looks like you still have some vertical horizontal adjustment so no need to move the mounting holes on the launcher yet. Just adjust your center shot out a bit horizontal and see if that helps.
You don't seem to have much adjustment needed so you could also try and move you cock vane clockwise say to the 1oclock position this will bring your contact fletch down and hopefully out of contact.
Mark your rest up with some chalk this will show any contact if any remains.
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06-22-2016, 08:40 AM
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I moved it out to 13/16 and started shooting cock feather out, as in away from the bow. I put a little Vaseline where I was contacting the rest and I believe I am clearing everything now.
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06-22-2016, 09:17 AM
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I moved it out to 13/16 and started shooting cock feather out, as in away from the bow. I put a little Vaseline where I was contacting the rest and I believe I am clearing everything now.
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Now just watch the launcher arm for signs of rubbing as that cock vane out will have will have that lower vane pretty close.
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Save yourself some head ache and bring it in.
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I moved it out to 13/16 and started shooting cock feather out, as in away from the bow. I put a little Vaseline where I was contacting the rest and I believe I am clearing everything now.
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Good job...put a couple groups thru paper and see what arrow is doing...
Paper will tell you If the arrow is ...
fishtailing...leaving bow left or right...slight adjustments made to rest or arrow spine...
porpoising...arrow is leaving bow high or low...adjustment to nock point
Oscillating...combination of both
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Shot out to Jim bows, I took it back in and spent a good two hours there, fixed my issues and worries right up. Thanks
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07-04-2016, 11:12 AM
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Shot out to Jim bows, I took it back in and spent a good two hours there, fixed my issues and worries right up. Thanks
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What were the issues?
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my guess they moved the launcher arm over one hole and then reset center shot
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my guess they moved the launcher arm over one hole and then reset center shot
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Makes sence yes
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If you look at my first post, I had lots of horizontal adjustment to make before moving it out those holes would have been necessary.
If you look at the last pic I posted, they re-mounted the rest to make it flush with the riser. Rest set center shot. Then we paper tuned it while I was there which was nice.
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so they shimmed the rest is what you are saying
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