New Alberta Curriculum: History, Nyet, Social Activism Da

[alta270]

Yep, no surprise the dippers are doing this. Take a look at the background documents in the links in the article... 'tis scary, and I don't buy into much of the sky is falling stuff.

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/poli...ge-not-history

[rugatika]

I'm really surprised that socialists would use an arm of the government to try and indoctrinate children. Said no one ever.

[linemanpete]

Wait for the actual learning outcomes to come out. That's what teachers teach.

[sjemac]

Not radically different from the current program of studies. I can't see anybody getting more angry at the new proposal than they already are at the current courses. The SS curriculum we have now is very light on history as well.

[Fisherpeak]

Screw the rhetoric ,teach history without the rainbows, just the facts , just the facts, dirty as they may be.
And also teach long division, times tables and cursive writing. And NO I phones or tablets in the room. Learn how to read actual books. My Grandkids can`t read. My 12 year old G Daughter really can`t fathom how a book works. She can`t write anything without a computer because she never learned how to write.
Hell,she can barely print on a grade 2 level. Give them a simple math problem ...5x5+5=-----No clue. I told her figure it out and I`ll give you that many dollars. I got to keep my $30. God help them all if the power goes out. I am sickened. Glad I`m getting old, I don`t want to live in a world with dummies like the school system is putting out now. Can`t talk to them, guess I could text them. If I did that crap.

[pinelakeperch]

Originally Posted by Fisherpeak

Screw the rhetoric ,teach history without the rainbows, just the facts , just the facts, dirty as they may be.
And also teach long division, times tables and cursive writing. And NO I phones or tablets in the room. Learn how to read actual books. My Grandkids can`t read. My 12 year old G Daughter really can`t fathom how a book works. She can`t write anything without a computer because she never learned how to write.
Hell,she can barely print on a grade 2 level. Give them a simple math problem ...5x5+5=-----No clue. I told her figure it out and I`ll give you that many dollars. I got to keep my $30. God help them all if the power goes out. I am sickened. Glad I`m getting old, I don`t want to live in a world with dummies like the school system is putting out now. Can`t talk to them, guess I could text them. If I did that crap.

I truly don't mean to be rude, but that is anecdotal at best. Perhaps your grandchildren aren't particularly strong students?

[sns2]

The last social studies re-write was considered lacking in history as well. Social Studies is my major, and I think we are woefully weak in terms of the amount of history taught. As one teacher already commented, it is too early to tell what the final product will be. Don't get your panties in knot about the word "change". Every important person in history was an agent of change. Having said that, I have no faith in Mr. Eggen increasing the amount of history being taught. If so, it's a damn shame.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by ReconWilly

All the media consumers are obsessed with Trump and take little to no interest in their children's "education".

That's where we are.

Actually, a small group here on this forum are obsessed with Trump. Most of us don't think much about him at all. He's the leader of a different country.

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Actually, a small group here on this forum are obsessed with Trump. Most of us don't think much about him at all. He's the leader of a different country.

There's always been a small group lurking in the fringes of darkness that wanted to rewrite the Alberta Social Studies curriculum by inserting their own views.

Jim Keegstra was a Social Studies school teacher - right-wing-nut Social Credit activist - who immersed himself into a world of hate and hurt because of his over zealous views of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Keegstra

[alta270]

Originally Posted by ReconWilly

All the media consumers are obsessed with Trump and take little to no interest in their children's "education".

That's where we are.

We are Canadians, and "common core" has nothing to do with us or our education system. Get updated and educated about this before posting such a bunch of unrelated memes.

[guywiththemule]

Don`t worry, it will all turn out just "wonderful" like Venezuela`s perfect society !!

[alta270]

Originally Posted by ReconWilly

Really?

Get educated common core style?

Please.

You will catch up sooner or later...or not...i don't care.

No Canadian province has anything that aligns with common core. Do you even know what that is? Or is it a talking point you picked up perusing alt-right websites?

[sjemac]

Originally Posted by ReconWilly

One gold participation trophy for you!

Nothing compared to the 10 irrelevant stars you have already. Keep going. You're 1/5 of the way to an Amuhrican flag.

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by alta270

No Canadian province has anything that aligns with common core. Do you even know what that is? Or is it a talking point you picked up perusing alt-right websites?

common core has been and is a part of canadian school systems there skippy. but dont let facts or common sense get in the way of your trolling.

[sjemac]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

common core has been and is a part of canadian school systems there skippy. but dont let facts or common sense get in the way of your trolling.

How so Tripod?

[propliner]

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
-George Santayana

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

common core has been and is a part of canadian school systems there skippy. but dont let facts or common sense get in the way of your trolling.

I'm all ears. Please explain.

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by sns2

I'm all ears. Please explain.

are you serious? are you heading back to your cave shortly?
listen up, your type are increasing in numbers by the day, further contributing to the decay! If said topic was anything at all that was not absolutely common knowledge to those that still think and walk upright, id post links etc to defend said narrative. As this is clearly not the case here i will not waste anymore time or allow myself to be drawn in to a so called battle with those who lack the intelligence to even understand that they have lost an argument. have an absolutely wonderful evening if you so choose..

[sjemac]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

are you serious? are you heading back to your cave shortly?
listen up, your type are increasing in numbers by the day, further contributing to the decay! If said topic was anything at all that was not absolutely common knowledge to those that still think and walk upright, id post links etc to defend said narrative. As this is clearly not the case here i will not waste anymore time or allow myself to be drawn in to a so called battle with those who lack the intelligence to even understand that they have lost an argument. have an absolutely wonderful evening if you so choose..

Stop the BS. Prove it or shut up. Your verbal flatulence is just that. It stinks and contributes nothing of substance. A real turd could at least provide fertilizer for growth.

[alta270]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

common core has been and is a part of canadian school systems there skippy. but dont let facts or common sense get in the way of your trolling.

Apparently your comprehension of what was taught in English class was somewhat deficient. Or perhaps age related cerebral deterioration is affecting your ability to properly construct a sentence. You know, using elements such as capital letters.

Now, after having to attempt to decipher what you are trying to tell us, it seems you think Common Core is part of the Canadian education system.

Want to explain how that happened, considering major funding for Common Core comes from the US government? How did we in Canada obtain that funding to implement Common Core?

Please clear this up, if you can, as it would be mystery to most.

[silverdoctor]

Common core mathematics is similar to what they teach here in Alberta isn't it?

Major failure.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...howe-institute


I still have to wonder - how many parents actually sit down and show their children the old standard of doing math - while they learn what they have to in school? How many parents will sit down and actually discuss history? Get their children to read books?

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

are you serious? are you heading back to your cave shortly?
listen up, your type are increasing in numbers by the day, further contributing to the decay! If said topic was anything at all that was not absolutely common knowledge to those that still think and walk upright, id post links etc to defend said narrative. As this is clearly not the case here i will not waste anymore time or allow myself to be drawn in to a so called battle with those who lack the intelligence to even understand that they have lost an argument. have an absolutely wonderful evening if you so choose..

I think that he being an actual teacher , sns2 is very serious about his post and has more than a little knowledge on the subject at hand
I am not sure what you meant by " his type" increasing in numbers by the day

Cat

[Fur]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Common core mathematics is similar to what they teach here in Alberta isn't it?

Major failure.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...howe-institute


I still have to wonder - how many parents actually sit down and show their children the old standard of doing math - while they learn what they have to in school? How many parents will sit down and actually discuss history? Get their children to read books?

I can appreciate wanting to do it the "old" way but we need to embrace technology. Our great great grandparents probably thought we should all learn how to set up a wagon, cars took care of that. I for one think we should forget teaching useless things that are more classical than anything. Cursive writing? Whats the point? Math obviously needs to be taught, but with phones one always has access to a calculator. Focus on teaching relevant skills. As for the social stuff I think the majority needs to protect minority's, but the majority should ALWAYS rule, that is the fabric of modern society, not the other way around.

[sjemac]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Common core mathematics is similar to what they teach here in Alberta isn't it?

Major failure.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...howe-institute


I still have to wonder - how many parents actually sit down and show their children the old standard of doing math - while they learn what they have to in school? How many parents will sit down and actually discuss history? Get their children to read books?

Similar in some ways. The real problem with math everywhere is the belief that it can be effectively taught by non math people. Showing kids different methods of solving problems is not a problem. However, it should be specialists that teach it from at least grade 5 and up - people who have proven they really understand numbers and how they work.

[oldgutpile]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

are you serious? are you heading back to your cave shortly?
listen up, your type are increasing in numbers by the day, further contributing to the decay! If said topic was anything at all that was not absolutely common knowledge to those that still think and walk upright, id post links etc to defend said narrative. As this is clearly not the case here i will not waste anymore time or allow myself to be drawn in to a so called battle with those who lack the intelligence to even understand that they have lost an argument. have an absolutely wonderful evening if you so choose..

Found him! I swear, this must be the teacher who taught Justin how to answer questions in parliament! All glitter and decoration, but no substance.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by JimPS

There's always been a small group lurking in the fringes of darkness that wanted to rewrite the Alberta Social Studies curriculum by inserting their own views.

Jim Keegstra was a Social Studies school teacher - right-wing-nut Social Credit activist - who immersed himself into a world of hate and hurt because of his over zealous views of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Keegstra

Of course that is what and how all history books are written even the bible...a little of this, a little of that and then a following and acceptance until it is challenged and rewritten.

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

I think that he being an actual teacher , sns2 is very serious about his post and has more than a little knowledge on the subject at hand
I am not sure what you meant by " his type" increasing in numbers by the day

Cat

obviously he has zero knowledge on the subject at hand if he doesnt realize common core is alive and well in canadian schools. But thanks for coming out cat to protect your boy there. Wouldnt want facts to get in the way of this discussion now would we.

Mathematics - Ministry of Education - Ontario.ca
http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/curricu...tary/math.html

Canadian Correlations - National Council of Teachers of Mathematics
https://www.nctm.org/canadiancorrelations/

Look to Canada to See the Future of Common Core Math? | Truth in ...
https://truthinamericaneducation.com...-see-the-futur...

Old school or new? Math teachers debate best methods as Canadian ...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle25224581/

New math doesn't add up for Calgary parents | Calgary Herald
calgaryherald.com › News › Local News

'Math wars' shouldn't sidetrack education debate, UNB prof says - NB ...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/.../new-bruns...n-t-sidetrack-...

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...YgQcfAHWkJzt1w
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...ZChD2EA7y0n97w

would you guys like some more? or will this do for now? again dont let facts get in the way of your yarn spinning.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by Fur

I can appreciate wanting to do it the "old" way but we need to embrace technology. Our great great grandparents probably thought we should all learn how to set up a wagon, cars took care of that. I for one think we should forget teaching useless things that are more classical than anything. Cursive writing? Whats the point? Math obviously needs to be taught, but with phones one always has access to a calculator. Focus on teaching relevant skills. As for the social stuff I think the majority needs to protect minority's, but the majority should ALWAYS rule, that is the fabric of modern society, not the other way around.

We've jumped into technology with both feet in the last 20 years, we need to back out of it. Lots of this generation can't think anymore, can't reason, can't analyse. It's worrysome. Without autocorrect, I swear people can't spell anymore. Technology can do everything for you, there's an app for everything - how is that helping?

We need to get back to the basics.

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by sjemac

Similar in some ways. The real problem with math everywhere is the belief that it can be effectively taught by non math people. Showing kids different methods of solving problems is not a problem. However, it should be specialists that teach it from at least grade 5 and up - people who have proven they really understand numbers and how they work.

if kids are taught how to learn, they can easily teach themselves math or any other subject from grade five on. No specialist is required, no man in a white suit, no so called experts, just an ability to know how to learn.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

if kids are taught how to learn, they can easily teach themselves math or any other subject from grade five on. No specialist is required, no man in a white suit, no so called experts, just an ability to know how to learn.

Wrong. It's a whole lot faster if you have someone there who can tell you if your answer is right or wrong, and if the latter, where you went wrong. My mom would have been a terrible high school physics teacher for me.

So by your standard, if we had a shortage of engineering professors, we could just have English professors fill in. Heck, they know how to teach. Should be no problem. LOL

Your view is exactly what is WRONG with the way education is going... facts, competency, experience, history don't matter. Just learn whatever you choose to learn, however you choose to learn it. Heck, get all your news from far-right or far-left websites. Truth is relative....